NRA Jackass Blames Women Who Don’t Carry Guns for Being Raped

[KamaAina]

http://bluenationreview.com/nra-jackass-blames-women-dont-carry-guns-raped/

National Rifle Association News host Cam Edwards lashed out at a Daily Tar Heel editorial that argued guns are not the solution to campus sexual assault by claiming that the “burden” of stopping sexual assaults and other violent crimes as they occur “is on the victim.”

CamNo, the burden of stopping rape is not on the victim being raped, you mouth-breathing dumpster of a man. No, it’s not the victim’s fault that someone decided to forcibly assault her, you sad excuse for what barely passes for a human being.

Maybe you’re so desperately insecure that you constantly need to have the ability to murder another human being within arm’s reach. That doesn’t mean a woman deserves to be raped because she doesn’t own a gun.

Repeat after me: The. Rape. Is. The. Rapist’s. Fault.

That headline is a gross insult to jackasses everywhere!

[madinmaryland]

1. In before the NRA apologists swarm into this thread.

[KamaAina]

3. Not to mention the rape apologists.

[madinmaryland]

5. ...

They are the same.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

30. I had a TERRIBLE experience the other day when visiting a family member.

Basically: "Those women who Cosby had sex with should have known that was what was expected of them and if they went to his hotel then they should expect to have sex with him in exchange for help with their career"

I heard this from someone who I NEVER thought I would hear it from.

This SICK, twisted garbage the right is spewing about women and rape, is working.

It is putting the victim in the seat of the rapist and making her the problem.

I am telling you, this shit when added to all the other garbage is just too much.

It better stop...and soon

[Buzz Clik]

2. The cause of all our problems is the lack of guns.

The US is the most heavily armed country in the world and one of the most violent. It would be less violent if just had more access for firearms.

[Skittles]

29. yup

this is how stupid people think

[gratuitous]

4. The logic is irrefutable

Carried to its natural conclusion, the NRA is apparently advocating for the abolition of murder laws for anyone who kills using a gun. See, their argument would be pre-emptive self defense. "If I hadn't shot those people I was robbing, they might have come back at me, so I had to shoot them to protect myself." NRA-land verdict: Not guilty!

Really, responsible gun owners? Is this really the outfit you want as your public spokesman, the group that fronts for all owners of firearms? These are the arguments you want to make in defense of your alleged rights?

[Thinkingabout]

6. There are other ways of stopping rape but I wont go there.

[Logical]

8. wow, really? Please post it so I can alert it. nt

[Spitfire of ATJ]

17. ...

[trumad]

26. no go ahead..

Go there.

[Scrabbleddie]

7. Just one facet of our lobbyist government...

..comprised of myriad facets of dizzying stupidity.

[Paladin]

9. The pro-gun militants have cleaned up their act in recent years.

You don't see this sort of overt Blaming The Victim spewing as often as you used to---but it is a basic part of their belief system, never doubt it.

[BrotherIvan]

10. And yet NRA talking points and apologeia are all over DU

Blaming the victim is the lowest of the low. Lower than low; so low I don't even have a word for it. Fuck these psychos. Why do we even listen to them?

[shenmue]

11. Cam, shut up shut up shut up

[Demeter]

12. This would be amusing except for the fact that any woman that tries self-defense

ends up arrested and charged....

[ScreamingMeemie]

24. +1

[raccoon]

13. This idiot knows nothing about rape, that usually it's someone the victim knows. In cases of date

or acquaintance rape, how likely is it that the woman would have a gun nearby in her purse/pocket/holster?

[sinkingfeeling]

14. That's got to be a part of the NRA's new strategy. Idiot state rep. here is

demanding 'guns on campus' (it's currently allowed, but all universities in the state voted against allowing armed persons on campus). He's using the same arguement, like giving rapists guns is going to reduce rape. But some coed might be charged with murder.

[lark]

16. Exactly!

Stand your ground is only successful for white males against women or minorities. No others need apply because it won't work. You can bet your last dollar that any coed who shot a rapist would be tried for murder, after all the guy is on the football team and his folks are rich, he can't be guilty, by definition.

[Dont call me Shirley]

15. All I can say is NRA FUCK YOU!

It's rapists like the NRA who promote rape.

[athenasatanjesus]

18. Because all rapist try to rape women with ample warning from a distance =p

[samsingh]

19. well isn't this just like the nra on everything. anything to sell more guns.

[Shamash]

20. Does anyone here actually have a -useful- suggestion?

Now, I can fully see and certainly agree that there are measures to reduce the chance of sexual assault (ranging from education to better street lighting and so on).

But that is preventing assault. What advice do people have about stopping an imminent assault? If, as the OP quoted, his statement is about stopping crime that is occurring to you ("violent crimes as they occur&quot , exactly whose responsibility (burden, if you will) is it at that moment to stop the crime? At this point, we are well past where prevention is going to have any effect and we want to stop the crime.

Now, rape is most certainly the rapist's fault, but I do not think we can count on the rapist to suddenly develop a sense of social responsibility and be the one to stop the crime as it is happening...

Right now this discussion looks like an excuse for a lot of NRA-bashing, with absolutely nothing in the way of constructive alternatives to whatever might be implied by the combination of Cam's advice and his NRA affiliation. Now, IMO Wayne LaPierre is a nutjob, so by all means continue with the NRA-dogpiling. But if Cam is apparently giving awful advice and/or being socially tone-deaf, it would be nice to hear some useful alternatives on what people should do in the situation of "violent crimes as they occur" and you are the person they are occurring to. Obviously, for the commenters above the answer to that is not going to involve gun ownership, but in your opinion, what should it involve?

[Skittles]

22. how about we teach men not to rape?

[Shamash]

25. You're missing the difference between -preventing- a crime and -stopping- a crime n/t

[Skittles]

28. a gal was recently in jail just for firing a warning shot

I guess shooting them would go over really well

[Shamash]

32. I never said anything about shooting

In fact, I was specifically requesting alternatives to it as a more useful thing to talk about than simply insulting the NRA, which to my knowledge, has not stopped any rapes or other assaults that were in the process of happening. If the NRA is giving bad advice for that situation, do you have any good advice?

[Skittles]

33. you know what? FUCK THE NRA

I'll insult them all I fucking please - they are DISGUSTING

me, I take the usual precautions and I would kick a would-be rapist in the nuts so hard he would NEVER rape again

[Shamash]

39. So, -your- advice is to use enough violence to prevent any possibility of future rape?

Glad you were able contribute something to counter the NRA's obviously bad advice on the issue.

[Skittles]

40. LOLOL

OMG aren't you a hoot?

YES, if I am in danger I will DEFEND MYSELF but I do NOT need a gun to do it

[Eleanors38]

23. Sometimes a topic, in this case rape, is used in a way to bring up the politics of gunz...

And slip under the radar of GD's TOS.

My suggestion is to familiarize oneself with the practices of situational awareness. Some of these are well-known, and has been taught for years. But some self-defense experts are only now dealing with the phenomenon of being on line all the time. Wearing an ear plug and listening to loud programming literally cuts you off from the world around you.

Another aspect to this is the rise of the cashless transaction; the average thug knows to do their business near ATMs where the technological old schoolers obtain money. Clearly, this advice leans toward self-defense in general, but some attackers might be looking for a bonus. (For example, while break-in thieves case places to lessen the chance someone is home, home invaders often WANT someone home so the need for all matter of assault -- battery, murder, kidnappings, rape -- can be satisfied as well.)

I hope this helps.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

31. HOw about creating a culture and environment where NO rape is EVER excused by ANYONE

as opposed to what we have now, where the victim is often put through more hell than the rapist.

If a man knew there was ONE HELL of a good chance he was going to prison if he did it, maybe shit would change

[Skittles]

34. CORRECT

OMG this angst over "insulting the NRA"

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

36. Infuriating, isnt it. That anyone gives one shit about the FEELINGS of the NRA

My fucking god.

Do we have background checks yet?

Isnt that what the NRA fought that we still dont have?

I am amazed the NRA isnt chased by a hundred million of us right off the map

[Skittles]

37. the kind of people who think Zimmerman was the victim

that tell me everything I need to know about them

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

38. You mean "Georgie Boy" as the jury referred to him as

[seabeyond]

41. can i shoot the group of frat boys as i come to and go out, in unconsciousness from drugs,

shoot the date that coerces to the point of me not knowing if he will let me go, shoot the athlete that pins me down, the boy next door, the father, sons....?

or

am i only allowed to shoot the stranger that climbs out from behind the bushes and beats the shit out of me, leaving bruises indicating it is a "real" rape?

87% of the rapes, are not that rape.

and as women and girls are well aware of, too often we are blamed for our rape, the police tell us that it is a he said, she said adn wont even writer a reporter, the judge states that it is a 3 yr old's fault she was raped.

yet... we are being told y these same men, if we perceive the inevitable rape, we can murder them with no repercussion?

let me tell you about a bridge for sale. and really, why dont we throw out any inane bullshit and blame the woman, if she is raped.

get a gun gals.....

[Skittles]

21. this is the NRA mentality

everyone armed, everyone paranoid - sick fucks is what they are - absolute fucking cowards

[NightWatcher]

27. The next time you see an open carrier, take it off of them and pistol whip them

Then when their family complains, tell them that it was their fault that they didn't shoot their way out of it.

I completely support one's right to disarm a gun nut and whip them with the thing, laughing at them whilst they pee their pants. Some of these open carriers are asking for it.

[SheilaT]

35. So basically, I can shoot

any man I think might possibly rape me?

Not sure if the world would be a better place, but that would cut the male population by quite a bit in very short order.