Man Imprisoned After Filming Eric Garner’s Death, Refusing to Eat, Rat Poison Found in Jail Food

[KamaAina]

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/man-jailed-filming-eric-garners-death-eat-rat-poison-prisons-food/

22-year-old Ramsey Orta, the young man who filmed the NYPD killing Eric Garner, was arrested shortly after on trumped up charges. He has since been locked up at the notorious Rikers prison in New York.

Immediately following the killing of Eric Garner, Orta was stalked and targeted by police. They allegedly scrutinized Orta’s daily life until they were able to find something to charge him with. Eventually, he was confronted by police who illegally searched him and arrested him for the non-violent crime of carrying an unregistered firearm.

Orta had expressed concern for his safety after his arrest because he was sure that the police were retaliating against him for exposing what they had done to Eric Garner.

While in prison, Orta has taken seemingly drastic measures to ensure that he is not killed by the gang he witnessed murder Eric Garner. Orta has been refusing to eat, as he fears that guards may poison him because he is a high-profile opponent of police brutality. Sadly, Orta’s fears were well-founded. While he has been behind bars at Rikers, dozens of other inmates have reported traces of rat poison in their food, a claim that was actually recently admitted by prison officials.

Rat poison. It's what's for dinner!

[cwydro]

1. Rikers is a hellhole.

The correctional officers are thugs, more criminal than those locked up in their "care".

[sabrina 1]

23. Ghouliani's former driver, appointed by him as Police Commissioner, hailed as a 'hero 9/11 cop' by

the morons who decide these things, sent to Iraq to train their police, failed and went Awol, had an affair with a Faux anchor using apartment above Ground Zero intended for the First Responders to rest in, Bernie Kerik, used to work at Riker's Island.

[cwydro]

29. Lovely. nt

[gregcrawford]

2. And is New York's "Progressive" mayor outraged by this?

(SFX) Crickets chirping...

These evil bags of pig excrement are trying to murder Orta just because he exposed what kind of people they really are. And they wonder why people hate their guts...

[KamaAina]

3. I was about to ask that very thing

[TekGryphon]

4. The treatment is absolutely disgusting, but Garner (edit: Orta) is a f'ing moron...

... who deserves to be in jail.

Good job carrying around an unregistered firearm, asshole.

[giftedgirl77]

5. Garner is dead, he was killed by a cop who used an illegal

choke hold. Orta is in jail, try & keep up.

[TekGryphon]

9. You're right. Saw "Garner, Orta" in the OP and grabbed the wrong last name.

"....following the killing of Eric Garner, Orta was stalked..."

[panader0]

7. UH, Garner is dead, killed by cops.

[TekGryphon]

74. Which is why I corrected the title.

Thanks for keeping up.

[Scruffy Rumbler]

44. Soooo... you are just learning about Mr. Garner's murder today?

You did not recognize his name from recent history? And now you come and claim a man, whom the police arrested after turning his life upside down, is at fault for his own arrest for caring a weapon to protect himself. Even after the officials in charge of protceting him, admit they put rat poison in his food? Wow....
I am not sure Mr."Garner (edit: Orta) is a f'ing moron..." is the f'ing moro....just saying!*.

[TekGryphon]

73. You may support the buying and carrying of illegal firearms. That's your perogative.

I don't.

As I said before, I was writing my post and glanced up to get the last name. I saw "Garner, Orta" and, as I worked in the medical industry where we use that format frequently for names, assumed Garner was the last name. I corrected myself, but don't let that stop you from trying to score cheap points on something irrelevant while making excuses for illegally buying and carrying a firearm.

[Jackpine Radical]

68. Did you see the Garner film?

I think Garner was armed with a couple of cigarettes, which clearly justifies choking him to death.

[TekGryphon]

76. Orta. "Cigarette" is a funny way to spell "illegally purchased and carried firearm"

[Jackpine Radical]

82. What firearm was Garner carrying? Here's a snip from the Wikipedia article:

On July 17, 2014, Eric Garner died in Staten Island, New York City, after a police officer put him in a chokehold for 15[9] seconds. The New York City Medical Examiner's Office concluded that Garner died partly as a result of the chokehold.[5][10][11][12] New York City Police Department (NYPD) policy prohibits the use of chokeholds,[13] and the Patrolmen's Benevolent Association (PBA), a NYPD police union, said that the officer did not use a chokehold.[14]

NYPD officers approached Garner on suspicion of selling "loosies" (single cigarettes) from packs without tax stamps. After Garner expressed to the police that he was tired of being harassed and that he was not selling cigarettes, officers moved to arrest Garner [15] When officer Daniel Pantaleo took Garner's wrist behind his back, Garner swatted his arms away.[16] Pantaleo then put his arm around Garner's neck and pulled him backwards and down onto the ground.[17] After Pantaleo removed his arm from Garner's neck, he pushed Garner's face into the ground[18][19] while four officers moved to restrain Garner, who repeated "I can't breathe" eleven times while lying facedown on the sidewalk.[7][20][21] After Garner lost consciousness, officers turned him onto his side to ease his breathing.[22] Garner remained lying on the sidewalk for seven minutes while the officers waited for an ambulance to arrive.[23] The officers and EMTs did not perform CPR on Garner at the scene; according to a spokesman for the PBA, this was because they believed that Garner was breathing and that it would be improper to perform CPR on someone who was still breathing.[24][25] He was pronounced dead on arrival at the hospital approximately one hour later.[26][27]

[RedCappedBandit]

87. Whether or not Orta "deserves" to be in jail is completely irrelevant.

The issue at hand is that there is rat poison in the fucking food. Blatant violation of basic human rights.

[samsingh]

6. can one of our Democratic leaders jump in and help this poor man? Where's the Governor? The Mayor?

[Jack Rabbit]

10. Cuomo probably won't do it until Orta comes up with a big, fat bribe

Which, not being a Wall Street crook, he can't afford.

[blkmusclmachine]

12. No money, no "Justice."

[msanthrope]

50. This poor man is a 2x felon up on current robbery charges with 26 adult arrests. Caught

carrying an unregistered firearm.

I don't know what you want done.

[samsingh]

51. so what about the unregistered firearm. it's for his protection.

[msanthrope]

54. Mr. Orta was selling the gun to a teenager. You might want to aquaint yourself with

the facts of the case.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/04/nyregion/after-recording-eric-garner-chokehold-ramsey-orta-gets-charged-with-gun-possession.html?_r=0

[samsingh]

57. thanks for the link

[msanthrope]

59. Indeed---facts, like the fact that Mr. Orta was giving/selling the gun to a teen girl he had met

recently kind of changes things, doesn't it?

[msanthrope]

8. Carrying an unregistered firearm is not a non-violent crime. That being said,

Orta was definitely tailed by the NYPD.

[Aerows]

14. If I were in Orta's shoes

with the previous incidents that suggested his life was in danger, I'd be packing, too.

[msanthrope]

46. Not in NYC you wouldn't. Also, since Orta was passing off this gun to a teen girl he

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had recently met when he was arrested, I seriously think the "protection" argument is shot to shit.

[Aerows]

75. I'm not in New York

I'm feckless Southerner that attempts to make sense of these things *

*I've lived out of a suitcase, however, and have been to 45 of the contiguous states, and a few countries.

[brooklynite]

11. Sorry - you lost me at "carrying an unregistered firearm"

Here in NYC, firearms licenses are hard to get, and carrying an unlicensed firearm is a "no excuses" felony.

And since the author takes an advocacy position that this is a "non violent crime", I'm not inclined to trust his veracity on the facts of the allegation. FWIW, I note that his attorney has said nothing about this.

[Aerows]

15. I'd be packing

if I was threatened with death the way this man was.

[msanthrope]

52. Really? You'd have 26 adult arrests, 2 felony convictions including a prior weapons charge,

and be up on current robbery charges.....and you'd be packing a gun in NYC? A gun, that by the way, you were caught giving to a teenager?

Good luck.

[Aerows]

94. Meh.

I don't live in NYC. It's overrated.

Notice how I avoided your question?

[rhett o rick]

21. Why am I not surprised that you would take the side of the authoritarian police.

I bet if he dies of rat poison you'll say he deserved it.

[brooklynite]

36. To keep guns off the streets of New York? You bet...

This has been City policy for close to a century. The notion of being armed to protect oneself from the evil Government? There's probably a Tea Party group that would love to have you as a member.

[rhett o rick]

40. Strawman argument. I DONT want guns on the street. But I also want cops that don't

kill people when they get a hankerin'. If we don't stop the cops from randomly killing black citizens, there will be civil war. I am not convinced this guy had a gun before he was shot. The cops have been allowed to have too much power and get away with murder. Those that relish powerful authoritative rule would love fascism.

[rhett o rick]

56. Shooting every black male probably isn't the most effective way of keeping guns off the street.

Just sayin'.

[msanthrope]

55. You do realize that Orta was passing the gun to a teenage girl, right? nt

[sabrina 1]

60. And you realize that these thugs in uniform choked a man to death right? And now the witness's

life is in danger, right?

[msanthrope]

62. That Eric Garner was murdered is undeniable. That Ramsey Orta is a piece of shit who shouldn't

be giving teenage girls unregistered firearms is also undeniable. It's possible to multitask, Sabrina.

Mr. Orta is facing heavy jail time for both his robbery charges, and the new weapons charges against him. Claims of martyrdom can't hurt.

[sabrina 1]

72. It is also possible to view a few minor charges against a witness to the egregious murder of an

unarmed African American citizen as more serious than the murder itself, committed by those charged with protecting the population, captured on film by the witness, now the target of the same thugs responsible for the murder.

He should be given a medal for filming that crime, which would have been denied, lied about and dismissed without his indisputable record of what they did.

Was Garner's harassment by the police , as claimed by the police, justified due to all the minor charges against him also??

Did you argue for the police in his case considering the 'violations of the law' he was charged with?

And if not, why not, considering your obvious passionate concern for the 'law'??

[msanthrope]

77. 26 adult arrests, 2 previous felonies, including a weapons charge,

plus a current robbery charge, and weapons charges involving a 17 year old girl? That's minor?

It's not necessary to champion Orta....we have his video of Garner being murdered.

[sabrina 1]

83. Do you know how many arrests Garner had? Lots of 17 year olds have weapons in this country, lots of

six year olds, have weapons and know how to use them. This is America.

So, did you agree with the cops re Garner's criminal record, did you think Garner was a reprehensible character also due to his long record of arrests?

I'm trying to find some consistency here, but not seeing it so far.

Seems to me you are a stickler for the law, so it would follow that your opinion of Garner would be the same as your opinion of the witness to the murder of Garner. You seem reluctant to either verify consistency or explain any inconsistency.

[msanthrope]

85. It doesn't matter how many arrests Garner had. He was still murdered. Orta is still

a piece of shit, notwithstanding his ability to turn his cellphone video recorder on.

See, Sabrina it's possible to multitask......Orta is neither a hero nor a martyr. He's a felon who got caught passing a gun to a 17 year old. That you think his crime should be extrapolated to gun policy is well, dumbfounding.

[sabrina 1]

86. Orta's life is in danger, from the same murderous thugs who are responsible for the death of Garner.

I don't care how many tickets he has, and since I don't know him personally, I have seen nothing to say 'he is a piece of shit'.

Piece of shit, really? Do you know him personally?

And if the thugs in uniform do kill him, it's not an unimaginable scenario is it, will he still be a POS.

And since Garner had a long list of arrests, is HE, in your opinion, also to be considered a POS?

Your standard, unless you know Orta personally, to declare someone a POS appears to be how many tickets the thugs in uniform hand out.

Which is why I'm asking.

[msanthrope]

88. Orta's attorney has not claimed his life is in danger, and yes, being a

2x convicted felon who gives a teenage girl an unregistered firearm makes you a POS, by any reasonable measure.

[snooper2]

92. he won't because that is made up

don't believe everything you read ricky!


We talked about this in the past

[sabrina 1]

24. I trust Orta with a firearm, registered or not, far more than I trust the murderous NYPD cops who

should NEVER be out on the street armed, as they have proven time and time again.

He had good reason to fear those thugs in the NYPD. They are not the kind people you would want living next door. Extremely dangerous to the population, and yet, I bet, their guns are registered.

[Enthusiast]

31. +1, again.

[msanthrope]

48. Orta has 26 adult arrests, including a previous weapons conviction. That's who you'd give a gun?

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/08/04/man-who-shot-video-of-eric-garner-arrest-due-in-court-on-gun-charge/

I wouldn't want the cops, or Orta living next door to me.

I suppose the fact he was selling the gun to a teenage girl when he was arrested is a fact you've just chosen to overlook?

[hack89]

53. I would hope that career felons fear the police. nt

[LanternWaste]

78. And food servers, too.

And food servers, too.

[rhett o rick]

79. Yes what a wonderful world it would be if only the bad guys feared the police instead of

what we have today where the bad guys don't but the honest people do. Police will shoot anyone that is black that "appears" to reach toward their waist. Police shoot the mentally ill because they don't want to be bothered. Near me a mentally ill man was up in a tree. The police were called and they proceeded to shoot him. I guess it was the easiest way to get him out of the tree. In another case a couple called for help from the police because their mentally ill son was acting violent. The police came and promptly shot him dead.

[drynberg]

13. If any of Ramsey's buds are reading, please get thee to a damn good lawyer NOW

First goal is to get Ramsey outta the hole, then build a great defense. This is also meant for any NYC area folks who care about justice and the prevention of Police Brutality.

[RealityAdvocate]

16. The gun was a plant.

[KamaAina]

18. Excellent first post!

Welcome to DU!

[2naSalit]

26. That's what I thought when I read

that part. Good first post, welcome to DU.

[Enthusiast]

32. First thing that crossed my mind.

The cops don't deserve our trust.

[pintobean]

43. Lol.

[damnedifIknow]

17. Follow anyone around and they will do something that they can be arrested for

If you reside in America and it is dinnertime, you have almost certainly broken the law. In his book Three Felonies a Day, civil-liberties lawyer Harvey Silverglate estimates that the average person unknowingly breaks at least three federal criminal laws every day. This toll does not count an avalanche of other laws — for example misdemeanors or civil violations such as disobeying a civil contempt order — all of which confront average people at every turn."

http://mises.org/library/decriminalize-average-man

[hack89]

19. Carrying an illegal gun is serious crime

it is nothing to minimize to make a political point.

[rhett o rick]

20. Glad to know what side you are on. nm

[msanthrope]

58. Orta was passing this gun to a teenage girl when he was arrested. If I have to pick a side, I'm

gonna go with the teen, who was apparently conned by Orta into either holding or buying this gun.

[sabrina 1]

25. No, it is not. Murdering unarmed citizens is a serious crime. Choking them to death, is a serious

crime. Letting such murderous thugs back on the street armed and dangerous is putting the population in danger.

I imagine there are a whole lot of NYers who would rather encounter this man with his unregistered gun, than the murderous thugs and their enablers regardless despite their registered firearms.

[hack89]

33. If you have no problem with illegal guns on our streets

then we have nothing to talk about.

[2naSalit]

27. Since he was being stalked

and the thugs had a hard time trying to nail him with something, just how hard do you think it would be for them to finally choose to "get him" with the use of a "throw down"? They do it all the time, especially when they can't arrest someone any other way? They got frustrated and probably decided to use the "throw down" because that method is tired and true for getting your guy into the hole long enough for him to be done away with... then he can't tell about how he wasn't killed by other inmates or testify about the Eric Garner case. That, is how the system works.

[Joe Chi Minh]

30. If they are more than happy to choke someone to death, planting incriminating* evidence would

be almost too boringly anodyne.

*I think someone said it was not even a criminal offence. Never mind that it was considered very, very naughty, as someone enlightened us.

[brooklynite]

37. Would it be too annoying to point out that the Police don't manage the City Jails?

Or is the assumption that the entire City Government (under the management of progressive Bill De Blasio) is in on this, up to and including the Department of Sanitation?

[2naSalit]

45. It's such

an ugly monstrosity that I am certain that there is a kind of mutualism that exists between the cops and the jailers.

[LeftishBrit]

35. So is poisoning people (nt)

[Romeo.lima333]

39. agreed it is shamefull that it is being dismissed here

[msanthrope]

49. Especially when you are a 2-time felon up on new robbery charges. With 26 adult arrests. nt

[JEB]

22. The wrong folks are in jail.

[msanthrope]

61. No--someone who passes of an unregistered firearm to a teen girl they recently met

while currently up on robbery charges, with 2 prior felony convictions? Yeah....Rikers is probably a good solution.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/04/nyregion/after-recording-eric-garner-chokehold-ramsey-orta-gets-charged-with-gun-possession.html?_r=0

[JEB]

63. Yeah, a little rat poison works wonders.

[msanthrope]

64. Why would the cops want him dead? Think about this for a minute....there's no

criminal charges. But there's a civil suit.

Now, if I'm a cop who is being sued, who do I want as the Plaintiff's witnesses? The head of a church choir, who just happened to passing by and filmed the incident?

Or do I want a 2x felon who is up on new felony charges, including passing a gun off to a teen, as a witness? A guy who will probably show up to trial in a spiffy orange jumpsuit? A guy who will come across on the stand as the felon that he is, and who will, by inference, dirty up the Plaintiff?

Orta can only help the defense at this point.

[JEB]

65. Not sure the cops are that smart.

[msanthrope]

66. Their PBA lawyers are. nt

[JEB]

67. As much justice as one can afford.

[bluestateguy]

28. "unregistered firearm"

Hope you gun grabbers are happy.

More laws mean more tools for police to harass people with.

[Maru Kitteh]

91. "you gun grabbers?"

Thank you, Mr. Heston. You may now return to your cold, dead, . whatever.

[Oktober]

34. How convenient that this particular gun owner isn't a 'humper'...

... but just a misunderstood soul out to protect himself.

Very interesting...

[Romeo.lima333]

38. yes it sure is. especially since it is unregistered. people dont register guns so they cant be

track when they use it to kill, but if the police planted it on him.....

[brooklynite]

41. ...and yet, that allegation isn't made by either the author or the defendant's lawyer

[AtheistCrusader]

71. Felons can't register guns.

[brooklynite]

80. Is he a felon? I thought he was being held on charges/

In anyway, it's irrelevant. If he isn't, he still has no more right to a gun in NYC than I have under the law...which is none.

[AtheistCrusader]

81. He has priors, unrelated to this event.

But yes, that's a third way possession of a firearm is a crime in his case.

[AtheistCrusader]

70. It is fascinating.

All the more so since he passed it off to a teenager, which is a crime twice. (unlawful transfer AND ineligible under-21 recipient.)

He did a public service recording Garner's death, but his public service ends there. He's a career criminal, just caught allegedly committing multiple firearm related felonies.

[IHateTheGOP]

42. Wow America, you break my heart

[The CCC]

47. Man Imprisoned After Filming Eric Garner’s Death, Refusing to Eat, Rat Poison Found in Jail Food

Every one of them should be FIRED and put in Federal Prison for conspiracy and attempted mass murder.

[valerief]

69. But ISIS are the bad guys.

[jwirr]

89. New York is on notice. IF anything happens to this man they are going to have to answer for it.

[KamaAina]

90. Nice post, Colbert!

[snooper2]

93. on the interwebs?