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bigtree

(85,999 posts)
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 03:52 PM Apr 2015

Obamas Celebrate Annual Easter Egg Roll at White House (pics)





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Jack Gruber, USA TODAY



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President Obama "high-fives"a child while playing basketball during the annual Easter Egg Roll MANDEL NGAN/AFP/Getty Images



Pablo Martinez Monsivais / AP Photo




During the president’s annual reading of Maurice Sendak’s beloved classic, “Where the Wild Things Are,” an uproar broke out after a child spotted a bee in the audience. “Oh no, a bee!” Obama laughed as the kids screeched in fear. “Hold on, hold on – you guys are wild things! You’re not supposed to be scared of bees when you’re a wild thing!” - watch



First Lady Michelle Obama reads a book to children during the annual White House Easter Egg Roll (Mark Wilson/Getty Images)



H. Darr Beiser, USA TODAY


The First Lady ?@FLOTUS 27m27 minutes ago
Knockouts. #GimmeFive #EasterEggRoll




(CNN) First Lady Michelle Obama broke it down on stage at the the White House Easter Egg Roll on Monday afternoon, dancing to Mark Ronson's "Uptown Funk" with the "So You Think You Can Dance" All Stars. She was on stage celebrating the fifth anniversary of her "Let's Move!" campaign. Watch:





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Obamas Celebrate Annual Easter Egg Roll at White House (pics) (Original Post) bigtree Apr 2015 OP
It's cute. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #1
Rabbits and eggs are part of what religion? jberryhill Apr 2015 #2
They aren't. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #4
The vernal equinox and the winter solstice are merely astronomical events jberryhill Apr 2015 #6
Yeahhhhhh F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #9
"Easter" pre-dates Christianity by a long shot jberryhill Apr 2015 #11
Apologies for my tone with you. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #19
Keep this handy for when the "War on Christmas" rolls around jberryhill Apr 2015 #42
Agree with you. While these xian events may have been timed erronis Apr 2015 #30
I actually like the rabbits and eggs, because I understand what they REALLY represent. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #37
it's the 137th one bigtree Apr 2015 #3
I get that it's been around a long time. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #5
Why isn't it for everyone? jberryhill Apr 2015 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Apr 2015 #8
Well I'm sorry for ruining your day. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #10
thanks bigtree Apr 2015 #18
It looks as if everyone including the POTUS and the FLOTUS are having fun. Big Blue Marble Apr 2015 #14
Thanks for responding positively. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #16
Glad to hear you are expanding your thinking. Big Blue Marble Apr 2015 #32
I hope so. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #36
It is for everyone. Raine1967 Apr 2015 #21
It's kids rolling eggs. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #12
The kids seem to be enjoying it. stone space Apr 2015 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author cbayer Apr 2015 #15
You know, I'm changing my mind on this. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #22
Well, I'm glad to know that you may be changing your mind. cbayer Apr 2015 #25
No, it's alright. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #26
I do apologize. I see that you are genuinely taking another look at this and I'm going to delete cbayer Apr 2015 #27
At least rename it the Secular Spring Ovoid Object Propulsion Event. Nye Bevan Apr 2015 #20
. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #24
Or everyone can come to my back yard erronis Apr 2015 #31
Great pictures... one_voice Apr 2015 #17
The last one is funny! treestar Apr 2015 #23
Great images bigtree! This one is cool~ sheshe2 Apr 2015 #28
Thanks for the pics bigtree... panader0 Apr 2015 #29
Looks like fun.. no praying going on. mountain grammy Apr 2015 #33
Wait! Michelle was with Thing 1 BumRushDaShow Apr 2015 #34
Cute. But show the pics of Obama praying w/the Christian dominionists/Christian reconstructionists blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #35
For my surrealism dollar, nothing beat the Lynn Cheney acid trip year. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #38
Why can't all our Presidents be like Obama?? madokie Apr 2015 #39
Wow! They do know how to have fun at the Annual Easter Egg Roll! Cha Apr 2015 #40
they had the best weather of the year here for the day, Cha bigtree Apr 2015 #41

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
1. It's cute.
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 03:55 PM
Apr 2015

But meh. I get tired of the vaguely religious "secular" events in government. They're constant, and surprisingly alienating when you take them in aggregate.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
4. They aren't.
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 04:08 PM
Apr 2015

But Easter very much is. I have much the same problem with "secular" Christmas celebrations--you can never quite remove the history.

As I said, vaguely "secular" celebrations based on originally religious ideas may not seem like a big deal. Heck, I even celebrate Christmas with my family. But I don't want it in my government.

When they happen constantly, combined with the deluge of religious references and other things in our government, it adds up. It might not seem like a big deal to the religious, but it's alienating to those who want no part in religion, period.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
6. The vernal equinox and the winter solstice are merely astronomical events
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 04:16 PM
Apr 2015

They have no religious significance whatsoever.

I have a hard time understanding your comment of "you can never quite remove the history". The history of these events lies solely in their astronomical significance, and the corresponding festivals have been public festivals long before attempts to make them out to be some sort of Christian observances. The things done on these public festivals - be they rabbits and eggs in spring, or mistletoe and evergreen trees in winter - have utterly nothing to do with any religious observance or doctrine.

Marking the time when the days become longer than the nights, and marking the time when the days stop getting shorter and start getting longer in the Northern Hemisphere are entirely appropriate occasions for holidays.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
9. Yeahhhhhh
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 04:28 PM
Apr 2015

And I'm sure no one associates Easter with the Annual Easter Egg Roll. Right.

Sorry, but I don't buy that. And if you need more evidence, just imagine how the right would react if an atheist suggested changing that name.

I'm not going to discuss this anymore, but thanks for the conversation.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
11. "Easter" pre-dates Christianity by a long shot
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 04:35 PM
Apr 2015
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%92ostre

Again, I'm having a hard time understanding what you are saying, here with "I'm sure no one associates Easter with the Annual Easter Egg Roll".

American Protestants largely shunned both of these holidays. The Puritans made it illegal to celebrate Christmas in Massachusetts.

The notion that these are somehow exclusively religious festivals is something that appears to have come from your imagination, and by relatively recent attempts at co-optation by Christians.

Rolling eggs across a lawn to commemorate the arrival of Spring simply has absolutely nothing to do with any religion whatsoever, and is merely a reflection of Spring's arrival at the vernal equinox. That's all it is. If you don't believe in astronomy, well then, golly.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
19. Apologies for my tone with you.
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 05:11 PM
Apr 2015

Your information has been helpful. I am slowly changing my mind on this. I'm still slightly bothered by the whole thing as even if there is no religious history behind the egg roll, associating it (even in name only) with a major religious holiday means that many will also associate it with religion (as I did), reinforcing the idea that we are a religious country. But eh. It is cute, and there are better things to focus on. Thanks again.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
42. Keep this handy for when the "War on Christmas" rolls around
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 12:56 PM
Apr 2015

What does the Bible say about Christmas trees?

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah+10%3A2-4&version=KJV


Jeremiah 10:2-4King James Version (KJV)

2 Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

erronis

(15,306 posts)
30. Agree with you. While these xian events may have been timed
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 06:06 PM
Apr 2015

To fall on earlier astrological periods there is no doubt that the corporations (at least american) are very happy to try to use the religious tie-in to sell more goods. Hmmm. Don't corporations now have religious rights too?

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
37. I actually like the rabbits and eggs, because I understand what they REALLY represent.
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 08:45 PM
Apr 2015

Namely, springtime, more specifically fertility (eggs) and ... well, what mammals (particularly bunnies) like to get up to, come springtime.



Essentially, enthusiastic fuckin'. That's what the bunnies symbolize.

So the joke is sort of on the puritannical Christian churches that couldn't get rid of the underlying pagan traditions, even while attempting to co-opt their holidays.

bigtree

(85,999 posts)
3. it's the 137th one
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 04:06 PM
Apr 2015

...one hundred and thirty-seven years holding this event, first at the Capitol, and later at the White House.

The original site of the Easter Monday Egg Roll was the grounds of the United States Capitol. By the mid 1870s, the egg rolling activities on the West Terraces had gained notoriety as the children turned the Capitol grounds into their Easter Monday playground. The first egg rolls, largely family affairs, seem to have been held during the administration of President Andrew Johnson. Youngsters of the President's family dyed eggs on Sunday for the Monday rolling, which the First Lady would watch from the South Portico. A family member has attested to hearing the stories of such activity from Andrew Johnson Patterson, the President's grandson, who lived at the White House while his mother served as White House hostess on behalf of her invalid mother, First Lady Eliza Johnson. Although small groups of egg rollers were reported on the White House grounds under the presidency of General Ulysses S. Grant, the majority of egg rolling activity and all day picnics took place at the Capitol. The workers and tourists watched in fascination as the children rolled both their hard boiled eggs and themselves down the lush green hills.

The egg roll activity of 1876 took its toll on the grounds, a fact that did not go unnoticed by members of Congress. With an already inadequate budget to complete the landscaping and maintenance of the grounds, Congress passed a law forbidding the Capitol grounds to be used as a children's playground. The law was to be enforced in 1877. But that Easter Monday rain poured down, canceling any outdoor activities sending the egg rollers indoors to play.

On Easter Saturday of 1878, a small announcement in the local press informed the egg rollers the new law would be enforced. President Rutherford B. Hayes, taking his daily walk, was approached by a number of young egg rollers who inquired about the possibilities of egg rolling on the South Lawn of the White House. Unfamiliar with the activity [his first Easter Monday as President had been rained out the proceeding year] President Hayes, upon his return to the White House, inquired amongst his staff who briefed the attentive Chief Executive. The smiling President issued an official order that should any children arrive to egg roll on Easter Monday, they were to be allowed to do so. That Monday, as children were being turned away from the Capitol grounds, word quickly spread to go to the White House!

President Hayes and his wife, Lucy, officially opened the White House grounds to the children of the area for egg rolling that Easter Monday. Successive Presidents continued the tradition, and the event has been held on the South Lawn ever since. The event has been canceled on occasion only because of poor weather conditions and during World War I and World War II. During the war years egg rollers were spotted on the grounds surrounding the Washington Monument, at the National Zoo, and even returning to the grounds surrounding the Capitol!

By the late 1800s such games as "Egg Picking," "Egg Ball," "Toss and Catch," and "Egg Croquet" were popular Easter Monday activities. The children attending the event take part in many newer activities, but rolling a hard-boiled egg across the lawn is still a highlight of the day. Presidents and First Ladies have personally greeted the egg rollers as have members of the Cabinet, athletes, musicians, celebrities from film, television, and theater and the official White House Easter Bunny. At the end of the day as egg rollers say goodbye, each receives a special presidential wooden egg complete with the signatures of the President and the First Lady and departs with fond memories of this happy tradition at the White House.

http://clinton2.nara.gov/WH/glimpse/Easter/






F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
5. I get that it's been around a long time.
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 04:10 PM
Apr 2015

It has a very impressive history. I actually really enjoy reading about it. But tradition is not a good reason to do something.

I'm not advocating we get rid of it (okay, I kind of am, but meh. Priorities.). I just want to point out that this isn't for everyone, and it does make me slightly uncomfortable.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
7. Why isn't it for everyone?
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 04:18 PM
Apr 2015

It's spring.

The flowers are starting to come up, and the use of eggs and rabbits to symbolize new life and fertility are not exclusive to anyone's religion - certainly not Christianity.

Response to F4lconF16 (Reply #5)

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
10. Well I'm sorry for ruining your day.
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 04:34 PM
Apr 2015

I really am--it's nice outside in Seattle. I hope you enjoy your day wherever you are.

Big Blue Marble

(5,101 posts)
14. It looks as if everyone including the POTUS and the FLOTUS are having fun.
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 04:51 PM
Apr 2015

Can we just leave it at that? If you choose to read something more into this
tradition and then feel uncomfortable; that is your choice.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
16. Thanks for responding positively.
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 04:57 PM
Apr 2015

I may well learn from this, but not from the other responses. I think it's just me that feels this way, and I'm beginning to change my mind. Appreciate you not jumping all over me

Big Blue Marble

(5,101 posts)
32. Glad to hear you are expanding your thinking.
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 06:22 PM
Apr 2015

I agree with you about how so many religiously-influenced rituals and events are interwoven into our governmental
and community events. I think these are a vestige of the time when religion was central to governing and
society. Over time as religious influences fade, so will this focus.

Yet I do hope we keep our pagan-rooted celebrations of the annual cycle. These rituals bring
meaning and fun into our lives. Long live the White House Egg Roll!

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
36. I hope so.
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 08:37 PM
Apr 2015
I think these are a vestige of the time when religion was central to governing and
society. Over time as religious influences fade, so will this focus.


Anyways, long story short, I was wrong, and thanks to the people who helped me realize that. Long live the egg roll

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
21. It is for everyone.
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 05:22 PM
Apr 2015

Every year there is a lottery for tickets and religion plays no part in it anyone getting the tickets. All a person has to do is get in the lottery.

No color, religion, creed, sexual orientation etc. is asked. Just a name and a number of tickets.

Goodness. This easter we celebrated an easter egg hunt with our neighbors, one mom is jewish. It was secular in every way one would imagine, just like this is.



Response to F4lconF16 (Reply #1)

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
22. You know, I'm changing my mind on this.
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 05:22 PM
Apr 2015

I may very well have learned something today. But responses like this are not helpful in the slightest.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
25. Well, I'm glad to know that you may be changing your mind.
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 05:27 PM
Apr 2015

I responded that way because this is a really nice thread done by a really nice person and I hate to see it get dumped on.

Sorry if I wasn't helpful in your learning experience. I'd be glad to take it down if you wish. Just ask.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
26. No, it's alright.
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 05:29 PM
Apr 2015

I did not mean to dump on the thread--my comment was genuine. I respect Bigtree a lot and enjoy his posts.

Thanks.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
27. I do apologize. I see that you are genuinely taking another look at this and I'm going to delete
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 05:33 PM
Apr 2015

my post.

It was unnecessarily provocative.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
20. At least rename it the Secular Spring Ovoid Object Propulsion Event.
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 05:15 PM
Apr 2015

And invite Richard Dawkins as the guest of honor.

erronis

(15,306 posts)
31. Or everyone can come to my back yard
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 06:12 PM
Apr 2015

And participate in the annual poopickup event as the snow finally recedes up here. It's OK, flag me - please.

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
17. Great pictures...
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 05:02 PM
Apr 2015

everyone looks like they're having a great time. So glad they had good weather for it too.

K&R

BumRushDaShow

(129,165 posts)
34. Wait! Michelle was with Thing 1
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 06:36 PM
Apr 2015

Where is Thing 2 ??????????????





Love the pic with the boxing gloves! Go get 'em. Bring the haters out one by one and sock it to 'em.

Thanks for posting those! It was a beautiful day today. Couldn't have asked for a better day for that.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
39. Why can't all our Presidents be like Obama??
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 08:51 PM
Apr 2015

The man is beyond cool
America you are fortunate to have this man at the helm.

Cha

(297,375 posts)
40. Wow! They do know how to have fun at the Annual Easter Egg Roll!
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 01:01 AM
Apr 2015

Cool, Michelle dancin' with the guys and the President standing in front of big bunny ears!

mahalo bigtree

bigtree

(85,999 posts)
41. they had the best weather of the year here for the day, Cha
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 08:01 AM
Apr 2015

...Spring springing, and all that, just in time for the kiddie's special event!

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