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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 01:31 PM Apr 2015

Should The Confederacy's Defeat Be A National Holiday?

In a speech one month ago, the first black president of the United States challenged millions of white Americans to resist the convenient allure of overlooking the country’s blemished moral record. It was a dual challenge, actually—first to the classical understanding of American exceptionalism, but also to America’s persistent critics, who abjure the concept of exceptionalism altogether.

“What greater expression of faith in the American experiment than this?” President Barack Obama said. “What greater form of patriotism is there than the belief that America is not yet finished, that we are strong enough to be self-critical, that each successive generation can look upon our imperfections and decide that it is in our power to remake this nation to more closely align with our highest ideals?”

This was both a rejection of the fairytale America perpetuated by American conservatives, in which national virtue overwhelms sin, and a statement of faith in the country’s robust capacity for self-improvement. And he delivered it in Selma, Alabama—a Southern city whose folksy name evokes state-sanctioned, state-administered violence against black citizens—on the fiftieth anniversary of Bloody Sunday. Selma would be a perverse venue for celebrating the Jingo’s exceptional America, but it was the perfect backdrop for Obama’s more nuanced rendering: the convening point of the march to Montgomery, on a bridge named after Edmund Pettus—a vicious white supremacist, who committed treason against the United States as a Confederate general, and later terrorized former slaves as an Alabama Klansman and Democratic Senator.

In the self-critical America of Obama’s imagination, more people would know about the Edmund Pettus bridge and its namesake. The bridge itself wouldn’t necessarily be renamed after Martin Luther King or John Lewis or another civil rights hero; because it is synonymous with racist violence, the bridge should bear Pettus’s name eternally, with the explicit intent of linking the sins of the Confederacy to the sins of Jim Crow. But Obama’s America would also reject the romantic reimagining of the Civil War, and thus, the myriad totems to the Confederacy and its leaders that pockmark the South, most of which don't share the Pettus bridge's incidental association with the struggle for civil rights.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/121406/civil-war-150th-anniversary-confederacy-defeat-should-be-holiday

The answer is YES. And I'm a Southerner, btw. We should celebrate the fall of traitors to the Union.

And when the current round of NRAGOPteahadist traitors lose their grip on Congress, state houses, and the majority of governor's seats, we should celebrate that victory as well.

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yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
1. The more holidays the better
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 01:38 PM
Apr 2015

We are so behind Europe in national holidays. Of course over there they actually get them off or are paid fairly for them.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. Another Southerner who'd vote for that. I'd organize a celebration at Stone Mountain where KKK
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 01:38 PM
Apr 2015

used to burn crosses (I think some racist still do), and let people chip away at the big Confederate carving on the side of the mountain. It would be cathartic.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
3. No, bad idea. It's divisive. I would support an "End of the Civil War" holiday, however.
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 01:41 PM
Apr 2015

If we need the "holiday" at all.

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
5. Defeat of treason should always be celebrated
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 01:43 PM
Apr 2015

So what if the neo-Confederates get their undies in a wad. The more they whine and the louder they scream that the traitors, i.e., the Confederacy, lost, the better I feel.

I have no tolerance for traitors, especially those who look to overthrow constitutional democracy and replace it with some twisted theocratic tyranny--the very tyranny neo-Confederates accuse the President of being.

clydefrand

(4,325 posts)
6. When will the Confederacy rise again?
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 02:08 PM
Apr 2015

Well..... the Confederacy never rose in the first place, how can it do it 'again'?

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
8. Passed by what Congress?
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 02:13 PM
Apr 2015

Sounds like a fine reason for a day off, but I don't think we could even mandate MLK's birthday today.

Ms. Yertle

(466 posts)
11. That's actually contrary
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 02:49 PM
Apr 2015

to the spirit of Abraham Lincoln, who won the war. He wanted reconciliation and healing, and didn't want the south treated as conquered territory.

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