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CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 12:21 PM Apr 2015

History repeats itself as radical Christians ignore their own historical failures.

The following Bible verses were used to defend slavery and to gin up support for the continuation of African American enslavement in the United States.

--Exodus Chapter 21, verse 20:
"If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property."
--Exodus Chapter 21, verse 1:
"When you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve six years, and in the seventh he shall go out free, for nothing...If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall be her master's and he shall go out alone."
Ephesians 6:5-9:
"Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ."

In 1820, the Richmond Enquirer ran an editorial which used the Bible to justify slavery. The South claimed that God was on the side of slavery. They accused the Northerners who fought for freedom of being disobedient to God.

Fast forward to today. We've got the same religious zealotry and reprehensible mindset, on center stage. Cherry-picked Biblical quotes defend the indefensible: Discrimination, unfairness, cruelty and treating specific groups of people as a lesser class.

But history has made it abundantly clear--Radical Christians were on the wrong side of history. And so was their God. And their Bible. Yet they come at this country again--with the same glaringly flawed Biblical riddles as a foundational basis for discrimination and cruelty. I will own slaves because God said it is right. I shall not serve pizza to a gay couple, because God says it is right.

The sad truth is, that we are not only dealing with people who lack basic decency, empathy and civility--we are dealing with people who are willfully ignorant, intellectually illiterate and unable to engage in higher-level thinking. They are like stunted children who won't see, and therefore, can't see.

With that said, there is hope because history favors decency, empathy and civility. We evolved as a species from the days of slavery. We now understand that slavery was a wicked disgrace. We recoil when we hear that our ancestors lived in a world of segregated lunch counters and "whites-only" bathrooms. We will once again, evolve forward to the point where the next generations will shake their heads at us--their ancestors--who lived in a world in which an Indiana restauranteur was proud to deny gay patrons a slice of pizza.







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History repeats itself as radical Christians ignore their own historical failures. (Original Post) CoffeeCat Apr 2015 OP
Sad that book of mythology and sicko stories still has so much sway over this country. Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #1
I know! "Serve one another in love" gratuitous Apr 2015 #5
Right, 'cuz that's the only sentence in the Bible. Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #8
It's a sentence that quite a few sickos take seriously gratuitous Apr 2015 #10
That book of collected tales from a primitive culture of goatherders Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #11
Of course the Abolitionist movement contained many religious people as well el_bryanto Apr 2015 #2
That is true... CoffeeCat Apr 2015 #4
Hmm... ananda Apr 2015 #3
I agree with you... CoffeeCat Apr 2015 #6
If only we could ban religion. ileus Apr 2015 #7
Bad idea. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #9

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. It's a sentence that quite a few sickos take seriously
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 05:23 PM
Apr 2015

But you just keep swinging that broad brush; you're tarring some of the right people, I guess. So you should feel very good about that. And isn't that really what it's all about anyway?

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
11. That book of collected tales from a primitive culture of goatherders
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 05:30 PM
Apr 2015

has been used to stomp down people, primarily women, the world over, for centuries. People are still using it to this day to craft legislation in this country. What utter bullshit.

The universe is about 14 billion years old and contains hundreds of billions of galaxies, and we're supposed to adhere to and respect the mythology of an isolated group of from the Judea of 2,000 years ago who thought that an omnipotent supernatural being and his son (who somehow turned into a god along the way .. kinda convoluted, that trinity thing) are ruling the entire universe, with this one little planet and the primates who live upon it as their focus...

I don't think so.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
2. Of course the Abolitionist movement contained many religious people as well
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 12:55 PM
Apr 2015

Who read the Bible quite differently.

Bryant

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
4. That is true...
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 03:38 PM
Apr 2015

…and today we have many religious people standing up and saying that discrimination of any kind, is wrong.

We won before on a big civil rights issue. We'll win again.

It's too bad that talk radio emboldens these people. They are a minority. Many Christians are embarrassed by them.
Right-wing radio magnifies their hate and makes them appear more powerful and numerous. Which is unfortunate.

ananda

(28,868 posts)
3. Hmm...
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 12:57 PM
Apr 2015

I don't consider conservative fundies or evangelicals "religious."

I think they just wrap religion around their hate and their phobias
in order to make themselves look better.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
6. I agree with you...
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 03:56 PM
Apr 2015

Most of the policies and beliefs that these so-called Christians fight for--don't even resemble Christianity or the
teachings of Jesus.

It seems like, what has happened--is that the rabid right wing of the Republican party has convinced these people
that the Republican party is the part of God and family values--and that the Democrats are evil, amoral America haters.

I don't think the Republican political apparatus is religious AT ALL, or cares about religion or morals. I think the lunatic
right wing warmongers and corporatists realized that they couldn't bamboozle liberals, so they went for the sheeple
on the right--who are uneducated and easily misled. They needed an easily fooled voting block and they found it in the churches.

After all, look at what the Republicans have managed to get these "Christians" to sign onto: Tax breaks for billionaires, the destruction of our planet by the fossil-fuels industry, hating the poor and yanking food out of starving children's mouths. They'll gladly argue vociferously against their own interests--destroying Obamacare and privatizing Social Security. It boggles the mind.

I once had a right-wing religious nut bag argue with me that the banks were innocent in the 2008 crash, and the problem was poor people who purchased too much house. Those right-wing talking points filter from the corporations ---> Republicans---> talk radio.

Then, these goofball talk-radio listeners vote for these corporate-loving politicians.

I agree that many of these people, as you said, are bigots. And they use religion to justify their evil. Many misogynists and child abusers do the same thing. However, I think the biggest sickness is the Republican politicians who have convinced the loony right to cheerlead for every pro-corporate, pro-greed stance out there.

It's…mind blowing.

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