Bored so I've been cooking and listening to Fox news...wow the level of brainwashing and

[Demonaut]

sophistication of its delivery is an art form and individual masterpieces to their viewers, in less than an hour, Obama very bad, Mexicans very bad, minimum wage very bad, unions very bad, Muslims very bad, Easter..very good unless you disagree with the latter.

And Gov health care very bad but all the while showing commercials for catheters and drugs that your gov health care will pay for...cus you not a leach on society...just the "others" and "them".

wow.........Goebbels would be proud.

sorry, I know a great many of you know this already but I I just had to give it a shot.

[Fred Sanders]

1. I think even Goebells would not be so evil as Fox and Roger Ailes.

Please change the channel....how you managed one hour watching Fox without your brain frying is amazing.

[840high]

55. What a crass comment.

[Fred Sanders]

61. If you think Fox's and Goebell's propaganda methods are not identical - you are not paying attention.

[paleotn]

65. They are very, very close....

...I hate to go Godwin, but the parallels are striking.

[Fred Sanders]

66. It is not Godwin to point out how general psychological warfare developed in writing by Nazi's - has been copied.

[paleotn]

68. You are correct. (nt)

[shebolleth]

2. I don't watch it

At all.

[MattSh]

3. Don't ever believe that it's only Fox news...

Every time somebody wants a war, everything that Fox news says is repeated, verbatim, on all corporate media. I wouldn't trust any of them...

[Fantastic Anarchist]

31. You're post really needs to be emphasized for truth.

Excellent point and one that's missed sometimes.

[Scuba]

41. You don't trust any of them? Gee, why not?

[blkmusclmachine]

46. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine

The Fairness Doctrine was a policy of the United States Federal Communications Commission (FCC), introduced in 1949, that required the holders of broadcast licenses to both present controversial issues of public importance and to do so in a manner that was honest, equitable, and balanced. The FCC eliminated the Doctrine in 1987, and in August 2011 the FCC formally removed the language that implemented the Doctrine.

[Scuba]

56. Fairness. I remember fairness. What a quaint notion.

Lessee, who war running things in 1987?

[Dustlawyer]

62. I have been saying for years that:

1. Demand and achieve Publicly Funded Elections (Will take tens of millions of supporters/voters);
2. Bust up the banking and media oligarchies (It will take true Representatives of the people to do this)!

[840high]

54. Yes.

[uponit7771]

70. +1

[calimary]

4. That's more than I could stomach.

But sometimes, I suppose, it's a beneficial thing to - just to keep track of what the enemy is up to. YOU happen to be aware of the manipulative tactics being, pardon the expression, liberally splashed all over that God-forsaken channel's output. It's a good reminder of the propagandizing they DELIBERATELY do, 24/7/365.

Goebbels WOULD be proud. He'd be envious. And if he were still alive now, he'd be making a mint on the speakers circuit AND as a top frank-luntz-type advisor at such crackpot set-ups as the Heritage Foundation, Cato Institute, American Enterprise Institute, and more, including the RNC.

[jwirr]

5. You would be better of turning it to MSNBC - at least there you will eventually get to watch prison.

[SCVDem]

6. Think of what you do with a catheter

That's how I feel when I am subjected to Faux.

All that's missing are the enema commercials.

[2naSalit]

12. !!!

So fitting!

[mountain grammy]

7. My husband watches occasionally just to

be ready for the shit he hears from his brother, so he can silence his brother and get off politics. Otherwise, our family relationship would not survive.

[Snarkoleptic]

8. I generally listen to some Limbaugh and watch a bit of Faux Newz the day before going to see

my wingnut relatives. It's amazing how synchronized the talking points are.

Earlier this week I dropped in on my folks and heard an earful about how Harry Reid was beaten by mafia members then concocted a workout accident as a cover story.
We also got into a tort reform discussion and I used my cousin as an example of how a $200K cap on judgements would be a bad idea.

[PasadenaTrudy]

9. I'm glad I don't have a TV n/t

[ScreamingMeemie]

10. Watcha making?

I'm midway through a bunny cake, and I just realized I forgot to buy licorice.

[randr]

11. Now go and take a long shower

[world wide wally]

13. I have satellite radio in my car which has bot right and left stations.

When a commercial comes on the progressive station, I will switch over to see what the eighties are saying. They are very clever at leading people with selective and distorted information and even outright lies for which they are never challenged.
Orwells vision Of this is mild compared to what right wing media is doing in 21st century America.

And it is all done in the name of patriotism which makes it double dangerous. Their goal, without a doubt, is to destroy American. Democracy.

[Buzz Clik]

14. Turn off the tv and turn on some music. Or enjoy the silence.

Quit listening to the idiots.

[old man 76]

15. Good for you

I glad you watch Fox. It is the best window on what the true Republican agenda is. The best defense is a good offence and that is obtained with knowledge .

[C Moon]

16. 'Makes you feel slimy all over, doesn't it?

[ronnie624]

17. I understand.

Sometimes I feel compelled to look, but usually, within a matter of minutes, I simply have to change the channel.

[narnian60]

51. Ha!

Less than a minute here. More like seconds.

[hifiguy]

18. Somewhere, Doktor Goebbels is very proud of his finest student,

Roger Ailes.

[Fuddnik]

47. And Goebbels lerned it all from a guy named Edward Bernays.

He was Sigmund Freuds nephew, known as the "Father of Modern Advertising", and the "Father of Propaganda". He worked in the Wilson White House to sell America on entering WW I, which Wilson ran against.

And he later went on to even greater endeavors working for the Tobacco Industry, and Wall Street.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays

[uwotm8]

19. I watch it sometimes when I'm drunk

It's just astonishing how biased they are over at Fox. It's a borderline cult.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

20. Just think, there are people GLUED to that who own guns....

They're often in those homes with bars on the windows and they really believe "they're coming".

[yallerdawg]

21. Fox News as appetite suppressant!

What a great idea. And effective in under 10 minutes (or risk brain injury).

I'd recommend seeing your doctor first, but guess what's on in the waiting room.

[marlakay]

22. Exactly the same the last time I watched 5 min of it

That was about a year ago.

[FairWinds]

23. We really need to pay attention to FOX . .

and challenge it in every way possible.

As FOX well knows some people who watch their very dark
art come to the conclusion that progressives deserve to die.

FOX knows that murder and terror follow from what they do,
and they are OK with it.

Dr. Tiller was not an anomaly.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

57. ^ n/t

[Diclotican]

24. Demonaut

Demonaut


I have meant for years that Dr Gobbles could have getting a few ques from Fox news - when it come to hatred against "the others" - even if Dr Gobbles was an expert of making sure the ones who listen to him - was fulled up by hatred for the "others" - I suspect he would be in envy for what Fox news is able to do....

Diclotican

[Skittles]

25. there is nothing sophisticated or masterful about it

it's very poorly done and should be obvious to anyone who isn't a fucking idiot

[Demonaut]

71. I disagree, they place authoritive and somewhat respected hosts, judges, noted news reporters etc..

with beautiful female mouth pieces and feed non stop negative rhetoric with a family friendly atmosphere

yeah, it's obvious to a critical thinker but intellectuals are the enemy to them, they aren't trying to appeal to you.

[Skittles]

72. I watched Fox News I think TWICE before I realized they were compelely full of shit

you have to be a fucking moron to believe their garbage

[PatrynXX]

26. thats why there's a documentary coming

on the Brainwashing of my Dad .. Jen's movie which she finally got me to own up and do an interview (blush) both dad and my brother nailed course dad is on the blaze now and considers Fox to be mostly a liberal channel (wtf)

[RecoveringJournalist]

27. Opinions for sale

Yep, Fox News - put down Obama/Democrats/Liberals and you're guaranteed either your own talk show or a spot as a recurring "consultant."

And on that note I've been long wondering. Does anyone else think Glenn Beck put one over on Fox just to get rich? I mean, take a look at the whole body of his work - about being a clown, his defining that going to extremes to defend an extreme position as "comedy," etc. I just think he doesn't believe at least half of what he spews. It's just for the $$. I mean, look at the clip below, especially from 1:35 onward. Clearly, he thinks he is a comedian.

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But hey, you say what Fox wants you to say, you get $$ and air time.

[RecoveringJournalist]

29. The video. Sorry. I tried the "link" button. It doesn't appear to work.

[groundloop]

28. Kittens.... you forgot to mention kittens

I was stuck watching faux noise at a restaurant this morning, one thing that's always impressed me about them is that they're very adept at running 'regular' stories in between their lies to suck viewers in. This morning they had a cute kitten story - what mean hearted person wouldn't watch a cute kitten story? And then, right after the kitten it was back to Obama - bad, Israel - good, taxes - bad, government - bad, rich people (aka job creators) - good, war - good, blah blah blah. Honestly, MSNBC should really look at copying the faux format instead of having several very smart people discussing pretty much the same three or four issues all evening.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

30. Be careful ...

Prolonged exposure is not good for your mental health, or, at least it is not with me.

[Initech]

32. No it isn't.

I have relatives and neighbors who are exposed to that shit constantly, and I see people change from otherwise mild mannered semi intelligent citizens into deranged, fire breathing Fox bots. It's a mind numbing drug to these people.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

33. Yes, but I also meant for my own mental health in terms of how pissed off I get when I do watch!

And, believe me, it only takes a few minutes before I'm seeing red.

I just don't like to have my intelligence (what there is of it) being insulted.

[Initech]

34. Yup same here!

A few minutes of Fox News would lead to me throwing my TV out the window.

But then again that's why I have it blocked from my DVR receiver.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

35. When it's on in public ...

Such as doctor's office or auto shop, I usually say something along the lines of, "I'm not in the mood for bad comedy, I'd like something a little more serious."

If anything, it plants the seed.

[Initech]

36. Thank god for iPads and smartphones...

It makes it easier to tune out public Fox News.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

37. Most certainly.

[colsohlibgal]

38. It Is Right Out Of The Nazi Playbook

Outright lies, copious distortions, quite selective in what they talk about/play up or not. Obama goes on vacation he's a slacker, Bush, who took way more vacation, nothing to see there. That kind of thing. Oh, stack the day with lots of hot women made up just short of hookers, and mess with the (D) or (R) designation at the bottom of the screen - as they did when they had to discuss Vitter.

What I don't get is how Shep Smith is still there, he will go off the reservation at times, I assume he has negatives on Ailes or something.

And I agree, if he's there somewhere in Hell Goebbels is applauding.

The problem is how to convince the suckers who buy this nonsense that it's propaganda and that they are being played at their own expense.

[doc03]

39. I find CNN almost as bad and MSNBC pretty much sucks

the only one on there I can take at all is Rachel. CNN "breaking news" today co-pilot crashed
plane on purpose. Defense in Tzarnov trial plants seeds of doubt. The same bs 24 hours 7 days a week for weeks.
All I watch now is the evening network news sometimes.

[Fred Sanders]

67. CNN is indeed just as bad...they dress it up a bit but it is the same Goebells playbook.

Wolf Blitzer's Daily Hour of Fear and Terror is the worst.

[jimlup]

40. Yeah the other side has basically become so detached from reality

that they really aren't even sane anymore.

[Flying Squirrel]

42. I watched for about an hour last week... What I learned:

(Yes, I took notes)

On Hannity:

All Iranians want us dead. They burn our flag (well, not exactly, the ones I saw had white stripes at the top & bottom, and 56 stars) and Obama is giving them the bomb.

The current Democratic Party is much more leftist than it used to be Left-wing policy: If you dislike America, you're probably ok "as crazy as that sounds." (Americans who dislike American hegemony are equated to Americans disliking America itself).

"Thou shalt not kill" is NOT the first commandment, it's really "Thou shalt not murder." This must be their excuse for the constant wars. I guess we're not murdering anyone?

"Hands up, don't shoot" was a lie, because Fox found a black person willing to say so on its station. Whenever they do any racist segments, they apparently make sure to have a black person who agrees with them - implicitly saying, "We're not being racist here." By the way, it's ok to call black people thugs since a black person was doing so on Fox. (They probably wish he'd gone further and used the N-word)

On O'Reilly:

The Obama administration's approach to Iran is based on "Willful ignorance" - same quote being used again and again by a former staffer (if it's from a former staffer, it must be true... Hmm, wonder why they no longer work for him, they couldn't have an axe to grind could they? If this were the other way around, Fox would immediately dismiss the person as being "disgruntled.&quot

If the NYT editorial board says something, it's what "the left" believes.

Re trading Bergdahl for 5 Taliban fighters: "You can't put troops in harm's way on a theoretical." Of course it wasn't a theoretical that Saddam Hussein might gain control of nuclear weapons and use them against America... It's not theoretical that the released Taliban fighters will return to the battlefield and kill more Americans either, obviously that's just fact.

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I agree, the level of sophistication is incredible, particularly on Hannity - O'Reilly is more of a blowhard.

[dreamnightwind]

43. Yikes, that is cooking with gas

2 days ago, phone rings, car mechanic calling, my car is ready for pickup. I ask "how late will you be there?" He says till 4:45, got to get home to see O'Reilly, then proceeds to explain to me how he used to be a Democrat, but that this Obama, he really doesn't like him, he's just completely incompetent, goes on and on about how incompetent Obama is, complaining about how hard it is to hold his new awareness when he doesn't know any other Republicans (I live in a very blue area). I explain how I don't like Obama either, but I would never even consider going over to the dark side, and that the real problem is the corporate money behind these parties.

He had very clearly been programmed by Fox to see Obama as incompetent, a weak and ineffective leader. What B.S. We can ridicule it, I often do, but it is very effective and needs to be called out, all the time. Thanks for the OP. Now I need to find a new mechanic, this one is sadly FUBAR.

[sailfla]

44. I tried, I really tried to watch... just constant hate, hate, hate

Gave up!!!

[blkmusclmachine]

45. http://www.historyonthenet.com/files/fs/nazi_germany/images/triumphwill.jpg

[NorthCarolina]

48. Their agenda is SO completely obvious that it seems juvenile.

[MisterP]

50. that's how the "Nigerian email" scam works--find that 1% that's naive enough

to look past the blatant and centuries-old lie and to ignore the atrocious grammar and writing--some people say that's a deliberate ploy, because someone who falls for THAT isn't someone who'll stop sending you money ...

[Cha]

49. Scary shit.. for those who let fox "news" brainwash and let them do their thinking for them.

[3catwoman3]

52. While I believe in the conventional wisdom of knowing what the enemy is saying...

...and doing, I just cannot make myself watch those robots on Fox. They don't even bother to vary the words or the intonation, even minutely.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

53. Better you than me. Don't know how you watch that crap, but thx for takin one for the team. haha

[mwooldri]

58. Just remember that Fox is #1 in news entertainment.

That is how we need to think of Fox News (Entertainment). Lord Haw-Haw (William Joyce) was eventually found guilty of treason and sentenced to death by hanging. I don't think the various show personalities on FNE are treasonous but it's definitely not "news".

[Enthusiast]

59. Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! They have no shame.

[IHateTheGOP]

60. biggest threat to Anerica

Thank goodness only idiots watch it

[AlbertCat]

63. its delivery is an art form

Yes!

In high school I had a (math) class in "Symbolic Logic".... where we learned all kids of "Fallacies of Reference" that renders statements illogical and useless.

If I were teaching such a course today, I'd have the class watch a hour or so of Fox News a week and right down all the Fallacies of Reference they could find. The students would be filling up notebooks weekly.

[maindawg]

64. One of the first lessons we learn is that of 'chicken little'

Who runs around claiming that the sky was falling. Then I learned about the boy who cried wolf. Thus ,at the age of 3, I was prepared for the eventual assault by the fascist rethuglacan party. I watched the nation turn to Ronald Reagon with utter disappointment knowing that he was just the reincarnation of the same disease that swept Europe down the drain some 50 years prior.
I watched the nation I had hoped was awakening after such an ugly Nixonian period slink into a selfish hateful state. But as time went on, I saw that it was always inevitable and would sink far more into the dark morass of instant gratification. While my chain smoking father condemned me to the streets in his sincere belief that pot was a dangerous narcotic and I was a deranged addict, people in those days drove drunk as a habit. The entainment industry worked feverishly to put out the flames of creativity to drive artists from art so that they could mold the business model we have today that is fox news.

[Scurrilous]

69. I think the same thing all the time.

The a-holes and their flag pins and whatnot professing to be great American patriots etc have more in common with Goebbels than anything this country has ever seen.