Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
63 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Jon Stewart on the rampant oppression and persecution of Christians in this country ... (Original Post) napkinz Apr 2015 OP
Brilliant quotes from John Stewart! sheshe2 Apr 2015 #1
hey sheshe napkinz Apr 2015 #2
When the majority of Christians ..... maindawg Apr 2015 #3
Jesus, being a North African Jew, guillaumeb Apr 2015 #7
Jesus was a blue eyed blond. I know 'cause I saw his picture at Sunday School. Shrike47 Apr 2015 #27
Yeah, but I always wondered why they didn't depict him with a crew cut. nm rhett o rick Apr 2015 #31
Yeah, same here, they had big portraits of him, always the same. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2015 #52
not an actual quote (but one could easily believe it to be so) napkinz Apr 2015 #56
Warren Beatty said that in the movie "Bulworth" Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2015 #63
Gotta love Jon Stewart. Curmudgeoness Apr 2015 #4
the actual war... napkinz Apr 2015 #12
K&R. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #5
Now there's a man I could vote for for president with a glad heart. Jester Messiah Apr 2015 #6
Is there a movement yet? FlaGatorJD Apr 2015 #30
The Catskills resort became a jewish holiday destination in the fifties because as late as the Monk06 Apr 2015 #8
"THEIR America" is the one that tried to secede ... eppur_se_muova Apr 2015 #11
Jon Stewart is great on the war on christianity Gothmog Apr 2015 #9
There are still Christians "spreading the word" as if nobody has heard the story. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #10
I'm with Jon especially the first one- Not a Christian but it's really hard to see the "persecution" Cha Apr 2015 #13
"but it's really hard to see the 'persecution'"... Ted Cruz sees it napkinz Apr 2015 #17
ted cruz whines a lot about nothing Cha Apr 2015 #20
"family values" napkinz Apr 2015 #22
that will be news to hate fueled ted.. that's his bread and butter Cha Apr 2015 #23
bread and butter ... green eggs and ham :) napkinz Apr 2015 #50
Senator Stupid is running scared.. Cha Apr 2015 #51
his constituents do like Obamacare, they do! :) napkinz Apr 2015 #53
Wow, perfect lead in to a perfect answer! Thank you, napkinz~ Cha Apr 2015 #54
Uh... RecoveringJournalist Apr 2015 #40
That's because 2naSalit Apr 2015 #26
Dunning–Kruger effect - unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority... erronis Apr 2015 #33
FOX News viewers -- "They are so stupid that they have no idea how stupid they are." napkinz Apr 2015 #34
Ah yes, I don't remember it well... (Gigi?) erronis Apr 2015 #38
one explanation from an old article ... napkinz Apr 2015 #42
K&R for Jon Stewart! Thanks for posting this, napkinz... Ghost in the Machine Apr 2015 #14
Well played sir..Well played. Lucky Luciano Apr 2015 #19
"they RAN back to their van and hauled ass" napkinz Apr 2015 #21
My nephew and his roommates did something similar... Contrary1 Apr 2015 #32
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #15
thanks Enthusiast napkinz Apr 2015 #24
Yet The Remarkable Irony Is... Laxman Apr 2015 #16
"similarities between their demand for a Christian state & the Muslims they condemn for taking same" napkinz Apr 2015 #25
perfect for posting as responses on Facebook KittyWampus Apr 2015 #18
If only he could wait one more year NewJeffCT Apr 2015 #28
It's hard to imagine 2016 without Colbert and Stewart napkinz Apr 2015 #35
The real war is on people who don't believe in god nor do they believe in religion. RoccoR5955 Apr 2015 #29
"I am practicing clergy of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster" ... thank God! :) napkinz Apr 2015 #62
Dang....Jon has always been soooo cute Stellar Apr 2015 #36
How do I love Jon? Let me count the ways.... Hekate Apr 2015 #37
soon we'll be singing ... napkinz Apr 2015 #47
Funny you should mention it while they're getting slaughtered whathehell Apr 2015 #39
It seems to me that when the right wing in America LiberalElite Apr 2015 #41
The idea that they are persecuted in this country is ridiculous.. whathehell Apr 2015 #49
Honestly romanic Apr 2015 #57
when you think about it, does the right-wing actually care about all Christians in THIS country? napkinz Apr 2015 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author napkinz Apr 2015 #45
No shit, Sherlock whathehell Apr 2015 #46
edited response ... napkinz Apr 2015 #48
Christians want it all. 100%. The whole enchilada. The only voice at the table. Delusional liars. blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #43
Image URL: https://whyjesusblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/christianoppressionpie.png blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #44
Stewart meme using a similar graphic ... napkinz Apr 2015 #55
updated April 5, 2015 nt napkinz Apr 2015 #59
320,000 Christian Churches in America... SomethingFishy Apr 2015 #60
what scripture -- or script -- is he following? Loathe Thy Neighbor? napkinz Apr 2015 #61
 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
3. When the majority of Christians .....
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 09:05 PM
Apr 2015

wait for it....................................
are dark skinned people. Oh ya, that day is coming. That is day they dread. They dont give a shit about the title of the reason they dominate the dark skinned people. Its just an excuse. They disregard the teachings of Jesus , the guy we all admire. While they worship false idols[guns]
I think that I have heard that sometime in the next 50 years , Americans will kind of all have a similar appearance. A darker skinned appearance. Because I guess Americans are all running around having sex with each other making mixed race babies so much, that white folks might not even get served in 2065 Indiana!
Now what kind of a KKK meeting are you gonna have when everyone brings fried chicken and grits ? How you gonna re enact the Civil War ? So the whiteys will be a minority . Scary stuff......................................

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
7. Jesus, being a North African Jew,
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 10:08 PM
Apr 2015

was in all likelihood dark skinned and curly haired, not the blond, German looking guy that is depicted in books. Do not tell the Tea Party that.

Loved the line about whites not getting served in 2065 Indiana




 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
63. Warren Beatty said that in the movie "Bulworth"
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 07:22 PM
Apr 2015

He was a politician who told the truth. He said in a speech that everyone should be screwing each other until all Americans are the same shade of brown.

Then he falls in love with Halle Berry.

What is it about white guys in the movies falling in love with Halle Berry, whose mother is white? Billy Bob Thornton, I'm looking at you. AGGHH! My eyes! The coffee table blocking the view, thank god! (Excuse me, that's a different movie, Monster's Ball).


:evil:

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
4. Gotta love Jon Stewart.
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 09:21 PM
Apr 2015

He nails it once again. I have the same musings about this horrible war on Christianity.

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
8. The Catskills resort became a jewish holiday destination in the fifties because as late as the
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 10:18 PM
Apr 2015

1950s Hotels and Motels in the South and Northeast could legally refuse accommodation to Jewish families who were vacationing or just traveling by car.

When teabaggers say they want THEIR America back that is the America they are talking about.

This whole Christian persecution thing is all about WASP America pissed because they don't run everything anymore. Civil rights are for Christians only.

eppur_se_muova

(36,290 posts)
11. "THEIR America" is the one that tried to secede ...
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 12:22 AM
Apr 2015


... in order to preserve their "peculiar institution".

Cha

(297,692 posts)
13. I'm with Jon especially the first one- Not a Christian but it's really hard to see the "persecution"
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 04:21 AM
Apr 2015

going on!

mahalo napkinz.. Perfect!

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
17. "but it's really hard to see the 'persecution'"... Ted Cruz sees it
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 09:37 AM
Apr 2015
Ted Cruz: Dems Want To Persecute Christians In Order To Mandate Gay Marriage Everywhere

Justin Koski — April 3, 2015

“Unfortunately the modern Democratic Party has elevated extreme partisanship and, in particular, this is all part and parcel over the fight over gay marriage,” Cruz stated. “And because of their partisan desire to mandate gay marriage everywhere in this country, they also want to persecute anyone who has a good faith religious belief that marriage is a holy sacrament, the union of one man and one woman and ordained as a covenant by God.”

-snip-

“Fortune 500 is running shamelessly to endorse the radical gay marriage agenda over religious liberty,” Cruz continued. “To say we will persecute a Christian pastor, a Catholic priest, a Jewish rabbi, any person of faith is subject to persecution if they dare disagree – if their religious faith parts way from their political commitment to gay marriage.”

read more: http://www.westernjournalism.com/ted-cruz-dems-want-persecute-christians-order-mandate-gay-marriage-everywhere/

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
53. his constituents do like Obamacare, they do! :)
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 08:28 PM
Apr 2015
Ted Cruz Posted An Anti-Obamacare ‘Poll’ And Something Magical Happened (Screenshots)

by John Prager
March 30, 2014

On Monday Ted Cruz, in anticipation of the impending doom of America–something the rest of us would call the Affordable Care Act signup deadline–posed a question to his idiot followers on Monday. It was the tried-and-true drumbeat of the Stupid Party, an attempt to capitalize on the words of the President to whine about Obamacare.

Unfortunately for Cruz, when he asked, “Quick poll: Obamacare was signed into law four years ago yesterday. Are you better off now than you were then? Comment with YES or NO!” Cruz was surely not expecting what happened next: ACA supporters flocked to the thread to express exactly how deluded “Green Eggs and Bullsh*t” really is. Pages and pages of comments in support of the President’s signature law flooded into Cruz’s page:





















more at
http://aattp.org/ted-cruz-posted-an-anti-obamacare-poll-and-something-magical-happened-screenshots/
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/03/29/ted-cruz-aca-poll-blows-up/

Cha

(297,692 posts)
54. Wow, perfect lead in to a perfect answer! Thank you, napkinz~
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 08:35 PM
Apr 2015

'Course cruz being the sociopath that he is.. will ignore the facts and pretend this never happened. And, again, of course, he's running for presidential candidate in the repub party

2naSalit

(86,794 posts)
26. That's because
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 11:03 AM
Apr 2015

he's delusional from his total addiction to self-fulfilling predictions and dogma that tell him he's specialer than everybody else. Just a reminder that no matter what you're addicted to, it's a good idea to come up for air on occasion.

erronis

(15,335 posts)
33. Dunning–Kruger effect - unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority...
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 01:10 PM
Apr 2015
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias wherein unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability to be much higher than is accurate. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude. Conversely, highly skilled individuals tend to underestimate their relative competence, erroneously assuming that tasks which are easy for them are also easy for others.

...

If you’re incompetent, you can’t know you’re incompetent. […] the skills you need to produce a right answer are exactly the skills you need to recognize what a right answer is.

erronis

(15,335 posts)
38. Ah yes, I don't remember it well... (Gigi?)
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 03:34 PM
Apr 2015

Last edited Sat Apr 4, 2015, 04:42 PM - Edit history (1)

I actually think I got that wonderful discussion (Dunning-Kruger) from this very web site. Perhaps from this very "napkinz". If so, tip of my hat to you. And always to Mr. Cleese - one of the smartest people on the planet.

You may know the answer to this question already. If not, I'll do some research:

- Are the people we call RW/conservatives/incompetents unable to understand humor?
- Are these people only able to create humor that is hurtful to others?

Perhaps these are related since if one doesn't understand humor one takes every slanted comment as a potentially mortal blow that must be repelled by any means.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
42. one explanation from an old article ...
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 06:38 PM
Apr 2015

Comedy at its best is inherently subversive, from the Lord of Misrule to Saturday Night Live; it holds up to mockery the follies of those in power; it exposes hypocrisy in a way that entertains us, but it does so with a purpose that goes beyond entertainment. ... This is why conservatives and satire just don't go; you can't be subversive and want to preserve the status quo.

read more: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2007/feb/18/comment.comedy

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
14. K&R for Jon Stewart! Thanks for posting this, napkinz...
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 04:24 AM
Apr 2015

I live in the bible belt, but they haven't bothered me in a few years.... since the last time they knocked on my door at 8 or 9 in the morning and I opened the door in my boxers, my hair half way down my back and a knife in my hand and said "good! You're just in time to help me sacrifice a chicken... wait.... are any of y'all virgins??"

They RAN back to their van and hauled ass! I guess me being 6'3", about 265 at the time, with all that hair and covered in tattoos might have scared them a little bit lol.

Peace,

Ghost

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
21. "they RAN back to their van and hauled ass"
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 09:49 AM
Apr 2015

you did a good thing ... your neighbors were spared (no sermon and they got to sleep late)

Contrary1

(12,629 posts)
32. My nephew and his roommates did something similar...
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 01:06 PM
Apr 2015

with the same results. They answered the door in their undies, each wearing one of the pet snakes wrapped around their neck.

Guess the fundies thought that was weird or something.

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
16. Yet The Remarkable Irony Is...
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 08:46 AM
Apr 2015

that these crusading Christians fail to see the similarities between their demand for a Christian state and the Muslims they condemn for taking the same position. Nations founded on religion, governed by religion, and existing to promote or encourage a single religion are doomed to failure, oppression and endless war because when your view is the only one sanctioned by "God" as you define it, everyone else is therefore evil and an enemy. Until everyone in the world comes around to the divine understanding that only you and those who think just like you have been privileged to have been blessed with, there will only be conflict. These are the people for whom compromise means that eventually you will come around to see things my way.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
25. "similarities between their demand for a Christian state & the Muslims they condemn for taking same"
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 11:00 AM
Apr 2015



napkinz

(17,199 posts)
35. It's hard to imagine 2016 without Colbert and Stewart
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 02:55 PM
Apr 2015

I wish both had waited until after the election to leave.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
29. The real war is on people who don't believe in god nor do they believe in religion.
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 11:07 AM
Apr 2015

There are even "atheist churches" popping up all over the world, where they say that it is the same thing as Sunday church, without the god.
BS I say. There is still someone controlling the message, and after all, isn't that what religion is all about? You may say that it is about something else, but realistically when you think about how and why religions were formed, it was all about control, and it still is.

I don't need a god nor do I need a religion (though I am practicing clergy of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster) to control me, and tell me what is right and wrong, nor do I need to assemble with others who have the same beliefs as I do. (I am only a Pastafarian, because its "beliefs" are these things, and many look down on someone with no religion. So I tell them that I am a Pastafarian.)

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
47. soon we'll be singing ...
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 07:55 PM
Apr 2015

Where have you gone, Jon Stewart?
Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

(I know, he'll be back ... probably directing film.)

whathehell

(29,094 posts)
39. Funny you should mention it while they're getting slaughtered
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 03:55 PM
Apr 2015

in Kenya right now by Al Shabab, but that probably doesn't help your narrative.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
41. It seems to me that when the right wing in America
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 06:14 PM
Apr 2015

carries on about persecution of Christians, they are not talking about anyone but Christians they want to manipulate. They couldn't care less about Christians in Africa or anywhere else.

whathehell

(29,094 posts)
49. The idea that they are persecuted in this country is ridiculous..
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 08:08 PM
Apr 2015

How much they care about other Christians I don't know.

romanic

(2,841 posts)
57. Honestly
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 11:58 PM
Apr 2015

I don't even think your typical Right-wing Christian knows that there are other sects of Christians in other parts of the world. And if they did, they sure don't give a shit.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
58. when you think about it, does the right-wing actually care about all Christians in THIS country?
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 04:14 AM
Apr 2015

That is, they care about only other right-wing Christians.

But there are plenty of others of the Christian faith who don't share their right-wing agenda, and whose food stamps, veterans' benefits, Medicare, and Social Security they don't think twice about cutting.

Response to whathehell (Reply #39)

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
48. edited response ...
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 08:00 PM
Apr 2015

(just trying to get some clarification, sorry if I misread ... I may have misinterpreted the tone of your response)

edit: "that probably doesn't help your narrative" ... that you meant it doesn't help the narrative in the eyes of the far-right in this country, with their Christian persecution complex.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
44. Image URL: https://whyjesusblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/christianoppressionpie.png
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 07:15 PM
Apr 2015
Comments are my own.


SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
60. 320,000 Christian Churches in America...
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 04:44 PM
Apr 2015

Mike Huckabee warned this morning that they might all disappear if they can't have these laws that discriminate against anyone who is not a Christian...

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Jon Stewart on the rampan...