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Pence news conf. NOW on msnbc (Original Post) riversedge Mar 2015 OP
Still putting it off on Bill Clinton...eye roll. nt ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2015 #1
Pence says Religious Liberty is the 1st Liberty and still is proud to have signed riversedge Mar 2015 #2
Just denied, nay LIED, about the intent of this monsterous law. He "abhors" discrimination... ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2015 #3
says not intent to discriminate but appreciats that is the perception riversedge Mar 2015 #4
His handlers probably told him to emphasize "bold" Tanuki Mar 2015 #54
only going to 'clarify' the current law--wants IN 'open for business" riversedge Mar 2015 #5
One thing is clear from this press conference ....... marmar Mar 2015 #6
I wish he'd clear that whistling booger from his schnoz, ugh! nt ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2015 #7
honestly! jeebus it's making me crazy tishaLA Mar 2015 #14
Insists that the law was never intended to discriminate The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2015 #8
He's a goddamned liar and a movement to remove him should be afoot. nt ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2015 #9
Indiana doesn't have recalls. NuclearDem Mar 2015 #10
Repeal is the ONLY 'fix" riversedge Mar 2015 #12
You are correct. old guy Mar 2015 #29
Picture is worth 1,000 words Chiyo-chichi Mar 2015 #25
Yup. If the law wasn't intended to discriminate, why are those assholes The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2015 #40
Exactly. Every reporter should have asked these very questions. Chiyo-chichi Mar 2015 #50
missed most of it... riversedge Mar 2015 #11
He continues to insist the Indiana law is like other, similar, laws which it isn't. Vinca Mar 2015 #13
His microphone must be in his nose. The noise is making me sick. n/t lamp_shade Mar 2015 #15
ha ah Now trying to make nice with media for earlie saying there was 'irresposible' reporting--now riversedge Mar 2015 #16
Interesting Defense.... global1 Mar 2015 #17
And Now He's Blaming It On Obamacare.....nt global1 Mar 2015 #19
Pence said that Sunday on abc also. riversedge Mar 2015 #39
Let me fix that for him... Contrary1 Mar 2015 #52
he's LYING ... napkinz Mar 2015 #18
That is a great poster. thanks riversedge Mar 2015 #38
He keeps talking about 'perceptions" . He still believes the current law was OK riversedge Mar 2015 #20
So, it's basically the same crap he said earlier on FOX? herding cats Mar 2015 #21
Bigots are cowards unless they're in a group. randome Mar 2015 #22
You got that right. herding cats Mar 2015 #43
Please ask @GovPenceIN if law wasn't meant to discriminate, why did he sign in private with known bi riversedge Mar 2015 #23
Same reason the KKK wore white robes and hoods LynneSin Mar 2015 #46
Good lord...he's offended at the "smear" directed toward this law. cyberswede Mar 2015 #24
golly gee He is offended. Does he think of LGTB community? riversedge Mar 2015 #28
Has he clearly said IN will NOT discrimate against gays? riversedge Mar 2015 #26
How has "government intruded on religious liberty?" cyberswede Mar 2015 #27
Basically as I understand it... riversedge Mar 2015 #32
That separation actually PROTECTS religion, though cyberswede Mar 2015 #33
umm. says he started out as a Democrat. Makes it worse riversedge Mar 2015 #30
If only people cared a tenth as much about the discriminatory laws passed virtually cali Mar 2015 #31
I hear yah---State legislators in many states have riversedge Mar 2015 #34
thank you. it's more than deeply chipped away at. cali Mar 2015 #35
I actully saw riversedge Mar 2015 #44
So--msnbc cut off live feed. But Pence still does NOT get it--keeps riversedge Mar 2015 #36
I wish they'd mic the reporters.. Can't hear the questions.....n/t annabanana Mar 2015 #37
I noted that also. riversedge Mar 2015 #42
From what I have read there was considerable DO NOT SIGN this reponse prior riversedge Mar 2015 #41
Eli Lily and Cummins, two major Indiana based companies DefenseLawyer Mar 2015 #49
I know their supporters are stupid and unable to google and/or read LynneSin Mar 2015 #45
My eyes are tired from rolling back into my head spiderpig Mar 2015 #47
Governor Dense was lying about the effect of the law Gothmog Mar 2015 #48
It was a bullshit press conference, blaming it on everyone else. It was all about discrimination, RKP5637 Mar 2015 #51
agree. Little new of anything. Sad. riversedge Mar 2015 #53
 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
3. Just denied, nay LIED, about the intent of this monsterous law. He "abhors" discrimination...
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:11 AM
Mar 2015

FUCK HIM, GOD DAMNED LIAR!

riversedge

(70,309 posts)
4. says not intent to discriminate but appreciats that is the perception
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:11 AM
Mar 2015

across the country and we need to confront that '
Boldy"


Gov walker uses the word bold lots of times.

Tanuki

(14,922 posts)
54. His handlers probably told him to emphasize "bold"
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 01:56 PM
Mar 2015

to undo the damage of his cowardly unwillingness to answer George Stephanopoulis' repeated, simple question, "Yes or no...will this bill allow discrimination against LGBT individuals?" Sorry, Pence, we've already seen how "bold" you really are!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
8. Insists that the law was never intended to discriminate
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:15 AM
Mar 2015

and that there was just a "misperception." Now the baggers are going to be pissed off because he insisted that the law does not give businesses the right to deny services to LGBT people - but it sure as hell does, as written, and that's exactly what they did intend. He says it mirrors the federal law, but that's a lie. The federal RFRA was designed to prevent the government from impinging on the religious practices of minority groups, particularly Native Americans, but the language of the Indiana statute does give private businesses the right to deny services on the basis of a claimed religious belief.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
40. Yup. If the law wasn't intended to discriminate, why are those assholes
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:47 AM
Mar 2015

proudly standing there while he signs it? If the bill was drafted and/or supported by rabidly anti-gay people and organizations, how can he claim it was never intended to discriminate? That was its entire purpose, since religious freedom is otherwise covered quite nicely by the First Amendment.

Vinca

(50,310 posts)
13. He continues to insist the Indiana law is like other, similar, laws which it isn't.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:27 AM
Mar 2015

Saying it's so doesn't make it true.

riversedge

(70,309 posts)
16. ha ah Now trying to make nice with media for earlie saying there was 'irresposible' reporting--now
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:29 AM
Mar 2015

says Indiana press got it right but 'National" press got it wrong

global1

(25,272 posts)
17. Interesting Defense....
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:29 AM
Mar 2015

Say Clinton did it. Say Obama voted for it in Illinois. Say the Hoosiers are the greatest people in the world. Say that the Hoosiers are offended by the publicity that this has gotten. Say that it is the fault of the press and reporting.

If there is a federal law on the books - that Clinton signed into law - why does Indiana have to have their own law?

Contrary1

(12,629 posts)
52. Let me fix that for him...
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 12:36 PM
Mar 2015
Wealthy Repub Hoosiers are offended by the publicity financial hit that this has gotten them.

There Mikey; that's more like it.

riversedge

(70,309 posts)
20. He keeps talking about 'perceptions" . He still believes the current law was OK
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:31 AM
Mar 2015

still chatting about Clinton and other 19 states

herding cats

(19,568 posts)
21. So, it's basically the same crap he said earlier on FOX?
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:32 AM
Mar 2015

I'm as unimpressed now as I was when I heard it before. He's still a liar and a bigot.

If you're going to be a bigot at least be honest and admit you're one. Don't pretend it was an accident when your ass gets called out for your bigoted actions. The largest businesses in your state saw this coming, the said this would happen and they opposed this law for that reason. But you never knew this was a possibility? Liar.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
22. Bigots are cowards unless they're in a group.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:33 AM
Mar 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]

herding cats

(19,568 posts)
43. You got that right.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:49 AM
Mar 2015

They're just like roaches. They huddle together in dank, dark places spreading their filth, and scatter when they're exposed to the light of day.

riversedge

(70,309 posts)
23. Please ask @GovPenceIN if law wasn't meant to discriminate, why did he sign in private with known bi
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:33 AM
Mar 2015



RB Blair ?@TuxcedoCat 17m17 minutes ago

Please ask @GovPenceIN if law wasn't meant to discriminate, why did he sign in private with known bigots? #BoycottIndiana #BoycottArkansas
8 retweets 6 favorites

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
46. Same reason the KKK wore white robes and hoods
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:52 AM
Mar 2015

They were too embarassed to show their faces in public.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
24. Good lord...he's offended at the "smear" directed toward this law.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:34 AM
Mar 2015



(the "smear" being that the law gives license to deny services based on discrimination)

riversedge

(70,309 posts)
32. Basically as I understand it...
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:40 AM
Mar 2015

the problem for the Republicans is the separation of church and state. Too much separation.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
31. If only people cared a tenth as much about the discriminatory laws passed virtually
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:39 AM
Mar 2015

every fucking day targeting women.

riversedge

(70,309 posts)
34. I hear yah---State legislators in many states have
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:42 AM
Mar 2015

and are successfully passing more and more regulations to chip away at Roe v Wade. Deeply chip.

riversedge

(70,309 posts)
36. So--msnbc cut off live feed. But Pence still does NOT get it--keeps
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:43 AM
Mar 2015

talking on and on about perceptions, blaming the National media

riversedge

(70,309 posts)
41. From what I have read there was considerable DO NOT SIGN this reponse prior
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:47 AM
Mar 2015

to actually signing. So Pence acting surprised is a ruse. Of course maybe he was in his bubble and really did not kow.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
49. Eli Lily and Cummins, two major Indiana based companies
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 12:01 PM
Mar 2015

are just two of many companies that came out publicly against the bill before it was passed, even testifying against it in hearings. These loons take their marching orders from the Koch Brothers/ALEC not the people and businesses of Indiana.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
45. I know their supporters are stupid and unable to google and/or read
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:51 AM
Mar 2015

but the rest of us aren't.

This bill is NOT like the other 19 bills or the one passed by Bill Clinton.

This has been debunked to death.

The entire world knows it yet Pence keeps denying it thinking if he repeats it enough time the rest of the world will go stupid and believe him.

We won't.

Change the law.

Gothmog

(145,619 posts)
48. Governor Dense was lying about the effect of the law
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:58 AM
Mar 2015

Governor Dense didnot sound well on the radio feed from Sirus. Is he sick?

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
51. It was a bullshit press conference, blaming it on everyone else. It was all about discrimination,
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 12:31 PM
Mar 2015

blaming it on everyone else that we just couldn't understand the law and smeared it. Absolute bullshit.

His press conference was all about BS CYA. No way did he redeem his law and discrimination in our eyes.

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