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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 04:04 PM Mar 2015

Education won't cure poverty, in one chart

http://www.vox.com/2015/3/30/8308607/education-poverty

Highly educated people are less likely to be poor than less-educated people. That's true today, it was true decades ago, and it's not especially surprising. What is a bit surprising is what's shown in this chart from Melissa Boteach and Shawn Fremstad of the Center for American Progress — poor Americans are much better-educated today than they were a generation ago:


There are a lot of problems with the official poverty metric, so don't sweat the details of this too much. The point, however, is that you can't count on improving educational outcomes alone to cure poverty. We've made dramatically more progress in improving high school graduation rates and college attendance rates than we've made in raising the market incomes of workers at the bottom of the income pyramid. And the 2013 data in part shows that recessions continue to be punishing, poverty-inducing experiences for Americans with all kinds of educational credentials.




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Yavin4

(35,446 posts)
1. No need for a chart. Just see your local Graduate Teaching Assistant
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 04:19 PM
Mar 2015

They make an average $31,000. These are PhDs !!!

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
10. I think you mean adjuncts...
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:13 AM
Mar 2015

GTA's, by definition, don't have their PhD's, but are in the process of getting them.

Adjuncts, OTOH, are incredibly abused. Low pay, long hours, and no benefits. It's unbelievable.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
2. The reason the well educated do better is that they generally start out several rungs up the ladder
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 04:21 PM
Mar 2015

In my opinion.

Bryant

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
11. Generally true, but not always...
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:17 AM
Mar 2015

I'm the first in my family to go to college, and the first to break out of the working class.

But it is true that the vast majority of those I went to college with were from a higher economic class than I was.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
5. Note where the bottom line, so to speak, starts to tail off
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 06:28 PM
Mar 2015

1980 = St. Raygun. There were signs of it in the '70s, but it starts to become the yawning gulf we see today under Raygun.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
7. It is not possible for this chart to be posted too many times
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 06:34 PM
Mar 2015

This is the root cause of many of the problems we are experiencing today.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
12. I'd like a to a this plot compared to union membership...
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:19 AM
Mar 2015

I bet they corroborate pretty closely.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
6. Agree. Rising levels of education create rising levels of productivity.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 06:31 PM
Mar 2015

That productivity creates profit that goes only to capital, which bears no share of the burden of that education.

It's a sucker's game.

Igel

(35,357 posts)
9. Education's correlated with a lot of things.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 06:54 AM
Mar 2015

Some of which affect poverty directly (primarily by increasing social mobility--then it's not "I have more education" but "I have a greater amount of education for my cohort&quot , some of which affect health, etc., etc.

It's increasingly looking like it's a package deal.

Orrex

(63,224 posts)
13. I would think that the wealthy are more likely to obtain better education
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:25 AM
Mar 2015

Rather than education leading to improved financial security, it seems likely that financial security raises the likelihood of a good education.

Chicken<--->Egg

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