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KansDem

(28,498 posts)
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 12:03 PM Mar 2015

Kansas football assistant coaches will make close to $2.3 million in 2015

LAWRENCE

After years of shelling out million-dollar contracts to its football coaches for little return, Kansas is taking a limited financial gamble on new head coach David Beaty.

Beaty, who will make a base salary of $800,000 plus incentives, is set to make less than a third of his predecessor, Charlie Weis.

Some of that savings, though, will go toward a staff that will make a combined $2,279,000 in 2015, according to salary information obtained by The Star.

Last season, that number would have ranked sixth among the eight Big 12 schools that are required to disclose the salaries of employees. (TCU and Baylor are private schools and do not have to make salaries public.)

Clint Bowen, the Jayhawks’ assistant head coach and co-defensive coordinator, has signed a three-year contract that will pay him $400,000 annually. Bowen, who served as defensive coordinator under Weis before assuming the role of interim coach, made $325,000 last season.

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The Kansas City Star


Now, what was it about college students graduating with huge debts?

Maybe it's time to cut the salaries of coaches and administrators?
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Kansas football assistant coaches will make close to $2.3 million in 2015 (Original Post) KansDem Mar 2015 OP
Football money doesn't come out of any academic funds LittleBlue Mar 2015 #1
You are correct! nt Logical Mar 2015 #2
Thanks. You beat me to it. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #3
it still seems.like.alot of money Liberal_in_LA Mar 2015 #4
It is a lot of money LittleBlue Mar 2015 #5
Not in comparison to how much the football program is probably bringing in. nt woolldog Mar 2015 #6
Our assistants at Oklahoma make a lot more than that. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #7
but the ones doing the real work. the athletes, make.nothing Liberal_in_LA Mar 2015 #9
Free college is something! Many other students would love it! Nt Logical Mar 2015 #10
Why isn't college free for everyone, regardless of whether he or she is a jock? - nt KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #13
Good question... KansDem Mar 2015 #28
Think you meant to write "money made in the athletic programs stays in the athletic KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #31
Yes, you are correct. KansDem Mar 2015 #33
I think the quality of that education may not be the same as for a non-athlete indie9197 Mar 2015 #36
Many students work 2 jobs. nt Logical Mar 2015 #37
That's a different issue, and certainly one worth discussing. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #20
Lots of money in the entertainment business FLPanhandle Mar 2015 #8
especially for a basketball school pstokely Mar 2015 #26
Please explain again to me what the fuck football and basketball are doing KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #11
Giving scholarships to players who would otherwise be unable to afford college LittleBlue Mar 2015 #14
How does intercollegiate athletics mesh with the stated mission of an institution of KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #15
Columbia & UChicago did away with Division 1 competition and athletic scholarships Algernon Moncrieff Mar 2015 #16
Virtually the entire Ivy League has intercollegiate sports LittleBlue Mar 2015 #19
Wouldn't it be interesting to compare the salaries of those jocks\playground supervisors KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #12
If the assistant prof in physics sold millions in tickets and jerseys, s/he'd be paid accordingly Algernon Moncrieff Mar 2015 #17
It's good to know that the capitalist theory of surplus value has now thoroughly KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #18
Oh god, shut up you clown. woolldog Mar 2015 #23
oh my. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 #34
You said it - it's a myth Algernon Moncrieff Mar 2015 #24
Don't forget the humble social sciences (history, sociology, anthropology), nor departments KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #32
The University of Oklahoma sells out every home game every year. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #21
But where does the money go? KansDem Mar 2015 #29
For starters it funds the entire athletic department. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #30
slightly off topic - why does charlie weis keep getting hired as a coach? KG Mar 2015 #22
How much will the program make??? ileus Mar 2015 #25
but basketball is the bigger business at kU pstokely Mar 2015 #27
It pays to lose in some fields (KU suck in Football). Oh well. JanMichael Mar 2015 #35
 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
1. Football money doesn't come out of any academic funds
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 12:07 PM
Mar 2015

Not only does football pay for itself, it pays for all of the other sports except basketball. If people stop attending, the whole athletic department at a school can fall apart.

These salaries are high because football is so profitable.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
5. It is a lot of money
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 12:28 PM
Mar 2015

But the way it works is counter-intuitive. A neglected football team usually means the demise of less popular sports. And during conference realignment periods, it can mean the permanent financial ruin of an athletic department (see UConn)

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
7. Our assistants at Oklahoma make a lot more than that.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:59 PM
Mar 2015

Our head coach pulls in $5 million. They're worth every penny, even in our down years. Our football easily funds the entire athletic department and more. We also get a lot of merchandising revenue that goes directly into the college. It's a good deal for everyone.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
28. Good question...
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 12:48 PM
Mar 2015

You would think the millions made on college sports could go to make it financially easier for all to attend college, but according to some posters to this thread, money made in the academic programs stays in the academic program.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
31. Think you meant to write "money made in the athletic programs stays in the athletic
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 01:02 PM
Mar 2015

programs." (Perhaps a Freudian slip on your part?

My, there certainly are some vociferous supporters of intercollegiate athletics and the compensation structures that attach in your thread. Of course, not a one of them can answer the question of just WTF intercollegiate athletics are doing at institutions of higher learning (emphasis deliberate).

indie9197

(509 posts)
36. I think the quality of that education may not be the same as for a non-athlete
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 03:24 PM
Mar 2015

Fall semesters especially, they can't go to a lot of "normal" classes due to traveling and practice. They are basically doing two full-time jobs at the same time.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
20. That's a different issue, and certainly one worth discussing.
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 08:51 AM
Mar 2015

I think we're finally moving toward that discussion, but I'm not sure there can be meaningful reform with the current bureaucracy in place. The NCAA is useless and, in my personal opinion, corrupt.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
8. Lots of money in the entertainment business
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 02:03 PM
Mar 2015

That's basically what football is.

Lots of money in movies and TV shows too.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
11. Please explain again to me what the fuck football and basketball are doing
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 11:59 PM
Mar 2015

at an institution of higher learning in the first place? I mean aside from the obvious explanation of serving as farm clubs to the pros but with workers who don't get paid.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
14. Giving scholarships to players who would otherwise be unable to afford college
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 12:27 AM
Mar 2015

Giving the students an activity at which to have fun. Giving alumni entertainment. Giving every other student athlete who doesn't play men's basketball or football a chance at a scholarship. It is the bedrock of support for Title IX in collegiate athletics

That is its purpose at a university

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
15. How does intercollegiate athletics mesh with the stated mission of an institution of
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 12:40 AM
Mar 2015
higher learning? If intercollegiate athletics were doing all you say it does, then why did Columbia U (in New York) abolish its intercollegiate athletics programs many years ago? Was Columbia U. wrong?

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
16. Columbia & UChicago did away with Division 1 competition and athletic scholarships
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 12:48 AM
Mar 2015

Were they correct? They did what they felt was right for them. Other schools still believe in the notion of giving scholarships for athletic performance. That may very well change if the kids have to be paid.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
19. Virtually the entire Ivy League has intercollegiate sports
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 02:19 AM
Mar 2015

Stanford, Cal Berkeley, and Northwestern all have them too. Nothing in these schools' mission statements prohibit athletics. If you really want to play the credentials argument, I've got you beat 10 to 1 on prestigious institutions.


Thousands of underprivileged young people get the chance to study at top universities because of these scholarships, students who wouldn't qualify for academic scholarships because they poured their efforts into athletics. Why do you sounds so eager at the idea of preventing them from accessing their only avenue to higher education? Utterly bizarre arguments you're making. Luckily your arguments are such a radical minority view nobody in power will ever consider them and athletics will be around long after both of us are gone.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
12. Wouldn't it be interesting to compare the salaries of those jocks\playground supervisors
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 12:03 AM
Mar 2015

to the salaries of newly hired assistant profs in, oh, let's say, Physics? You know, to professors with Ph.D.s and probably at least one or more post-doc? Hmm.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
17. If the assistant prof in physics sold millions in tickets and jerseys, s/he'd be paid accordingly
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 12:53 AM
Mar 2015

At research universities, professors are paid (directly or indirectly) based on patents they developed in university labs while working at the school -- often with the labor of unpaid/underpaid student researchers. Med school professors are very highly paid.

People aren't paid for what they know; they are paid for the value that they produce.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
18. It's good to know that the capitalist theory of surplus value has now thoroughly
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 01:04 AM
Mar 2015

infiltrated institutions of higher learning.

The myth of the disinterested scholar pursuing knowledge for knowledge's sake alone is finally once and for all demystified upon the pyre of Mammon. Just sorry that it had to happen at a once-venerable institution like the U. of Kansas.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
24. You said it - it's a myth
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 09:39 AM
Mar 2015

Perhaps there are a few humanities majors are disinterested scholars pursuing knowledge for knowledge's sake alone. As for the rest - no. Science labs are regularly and frequently sponsored/endowed by companies seeking young minds and fresh research. Engineering firms look to the students as a source of cheap labor to do mundane tasks, as do the legal firms that draw clerks from the pool of law students. For the most part, the students are at the schools to get higher paying work after college -- not simply to learn. The irony: the vast majority of the students who have been drawn to the schools to play a sport will not play that sport professionally after college.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
32. Don't forget the humble social sciences (history, sociology, anthropology), nor departments
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 01:05 PM
Mar 2015

like Mathematics and Philosophy. If only Bill Gates could figure out a way to monetize Sociology . . .

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
21. The University of Oklahoma sells out every home game every year.
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 08:55 AM
Mar 2015

A sellout is worth approximately $5 million in ticket sales alone. That doesn't even take into account concessions and merchandise. Then there is the money it brings into the local Norman economy.

Coach Bob Stoops makes approximately $5 million per year. If you do some simple arithmetic, he's worth every penny.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
25. How much will the program make???
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 09:45 AM
Mar 2015

Footballs big business. Fielding a good team every year requires a great coaching staff, great seasons generate huge profits for colleges.






JanMichael

(24,894 posts)
35. It pays to lose in some fields (KU suck in Football). Oh well.
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 01:14 PM
Mar 2015

I cannot stand the wasteful practices that have been used to substitute for the lost normal funding. Also the deification of games and those that participate including coaches. I suppose if we just call it entertainment and accept that 98% of the college players will not become NBA players but are a part of the supporting caste just pay them and take that out of the staff pay. Three tiers:

1. Playing to get an education - C

2. Playing to play but probably never goinging pro - B

3. We know you will likely go pro - A

Nah that suck too. I give up.



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