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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 09:43 AM Mar 2015

A Reminder... Your Vote... Is Just...CRUCIAL...

It's your vote. It's one vote among thousands and among millions, depending on the particular election and its scope. When you cast it, and you absolutely should in ever election, it's crucial to the outcome of that election. In every race, from your local school board to President of the United States, one candidate will win, and all the others will lose.

It's important to think about your vote. Your vote, cast for the better of two candidates, or for the best of a list of candidates is all part of how our system functions. It's wonderful if the candidate you vote for agrees with you on every priority, but that's quite rare. If there are two candidates who might win, one of them, however, will be more in tune with your priorities than the other.

If you withhold your vote, though, the candidate who agrees with your priorities not at all is more likely to win.

It's your vote. Nobody knows how you voted, so a withheld vote actually sends no message at all. It's just a missing vote. Your vote for the better or best of the candidates who have a chance of winning, though, helps elect the better or best person to office. Frankly, in our very variable society, that is about the best result we can expect.

If you don't vote, you are the loser. Your opinion goes unheard when it really matters.

Vote Wisely!

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A Reminder... Your Vote... Is Just...CRUCIAL... (Original Post) MineralMan Mar 2015 OP
Vote. Please vote. As a voter protection attorney, I can only say that one of the proudest msanthrope Mar 2015 #1
Newly naturalized citizens know how important voting is. MineralMan Mar 2015 #2
Sometimes, we take for granted what others gave blood for. As a voter protection msanthrope Mar 2015 #4
Good for that woman, and good for you for helping MineralMan Mar 2015 #8
WI has a vote for a SC Justice and a Constitutional Amendment... riversedge Mar 2015 #3
Every election has consequences that go far beyond MineralMan Mar 2015 #6
Just 36.3 percent of registered Illinoisians voted last November (including me!) greatauntoftriplets Mar 2015 #5
Yes, exactly. Elections always have long-lasting MineralMan Mar 2015 #7
If it's so critical, maybe candidates should seek to earn it instead of blindly expecting it. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2015 #9
Yes, and candidates have to appeal to enough voters to win, too. MineralMan Mar 2015 #24
KnR Hekate Mar 2015 #10
Not voting is totally selfish world wide wally Mar 2015 #11
Wisely hasn't even announced! Wisely may not even run with Wisely's baggage. morningfog Mar 2015 #12
+1. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #13
And nobody's going to give a damn about the "message" you wanted to send by doing so. calimary Mar 2015 #14
I won't be staying home so forget that but that doesn't mean I'm voting for the unacceptable TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #21
In Kentucky, LGBT people have no protections from discrimination in employment! Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #23
No one has any real workplace protections in Kentucky, it is an "at will state" they can fire you TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #28
Just vote wisely. It's your vote. MineralMan Mar 2015 #26
Exactly. MineralMan Mar 2015 #25
I voted for Gore in 2000, what happened? jalan48 Mar 2015 #15
The usual pattern. LWolf Mar 2015 #16
I'm not telling you who to vote for. MineralMan Mar 2015 #27
I always do. LWolf Mar 2015 #29
I've voted in almost every Presidential and Congressional election since I was 18. Liberalynn Mar 2015 #17
Nobody seems to want my vote. Fuddnik Mar 2015 #18
This +asmuchasIcan n/t jtuck004 Mar 2015 #19
Sure they want it but on their terms which are complete and unconditional surrender TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #22
+1 F4lconF16 Mar 2015 #30
Blame the victim. Good stuff, man. Would make a great radio talk show. jtuck004 Mar 2015 #20
 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
1. Vote. Please vote. As a voter protection attorney, I can only say that one of the proudest
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 09:47 AM
Mar 2015

moments I ever had at the poll was assisting a new American in voting. He had emigrated from Pakistan.

For McCain/Palin, 2008.

Because we Democrats believe in the vote. Even when it's not for us.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
2. Newly naturalized citizens know how important voting is.
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 09:48 AM
Mar 2015

They vote. Sadly, too many "natural born" citizens don't.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
4. Sometimes, we take for granted what others gave blood for. As a voter protection
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 09:53 AM
Mar 2015

attorney for the Obama campaign in 2012, I watched an 81 year-old woman wait 4 hours to vote after being challenged by the Republican poll watcher.

She refused a challenge ballot. She wasn't going paper. She was going to vote on the machines.

And she did.


riversedge

(70,243 posts)
3. WI has a vote for a SC Justice and a Constitutional Amendment...
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 09:51 AM
Mar 2015

Our SC already leans RW 4-3. GOTV


http://gab.wi.gov/elections-voting/2015/spring



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Spring 2015 Election
Spring Primary: Tuesday, February 17, 2015

Click here for official primary results.
Spring Election: Tuesday, April 7, 2015

State offices elected include Justice of the Supreme Court, Court of Appeals Judge (District I and III), and Circuit Court Judge. There will also be a Constitutional Amendment on Election of the Chief Justice.
Candidate Contact Information

To assist groups and individuals who wish to contact candidates for office, the G.A.B. has prepared an easy-to-use spreadsheet containing addresses, telephone numbers and email addresses of candidates for the February 17 Spring Primary. The spreadsheet is attached below (2015 Spring Candidates Contact Information.xlsx). This information is found on the candidates' GAB-1 registration forms, which are available on the Campaign Finance Information System website.
Deadlines for Getting on the Ballot

The first day to circulate nomination papers is December 1, 2014. The deadline to file nomination papers and other ballot access documents is 5:00 p.m. on Tuesday, January 6, 2015. Click here for more information about getting on the ballot.
Notification of Non-Candidacy (GAB-163)

A list of incumbent officials who have filed a Notification of Non-Candidacy indicating that they will not seek reelection at the 2015 Spring Election will be attached below. The list will be updated as notices are filed. The deadline for filing is Friday, December 26, 2014.

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Nomination Papers by receipt number 1.12.2015.PDF 99.53 KB
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Offices to be Elected_Spring 2015 (11.28.14).pdf 10.18 KB
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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
6. Every election has consequences that go far beyond
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 09:54 AM
Mar 2015

the particular candidates. That's why going to the polls for every election is so important, as long as you cast your vote wisely.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
7. Yes, exactly. Elections always have long-lasting
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 09:55 AM
Mar 2015

consequences. They're critically important for the future of all of us.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
24. Yes, and candidates have to appeal to enough voters to win, too.
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 01:15 PM
Mar 2015

Sometimes, that's a very difficult thing to do. On election day, voters have choices to make. I hope they make wise choices.

calimary

(81,322 posts)
14. And nobody's going to give a damn about the "message" you wanted to send by doing so.
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 11:32 AM
Mar 2015

That "message" won't even get delivered.

And THIS is worth repeating:

"If you withhold your vote, though, the candidate who agrees with your priorities not at all is more likely to win."

Still wanna stay home on Election Day? STILL think it's an exercise in futility? Well, go ahead, then. You'll find out what REAL futility is when the other guy wins and ANY chance you had - even to have SOME of your priorities acted upon, will be LOST. For at least four-to-eight years. And a LOT of damage can be done by that other guy and all his henchmen in that time - some of it irreparable.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
21. I won't be staying home so forget that but that doesn't mean I'm voting for the unacceptable
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 12:55 PM
Mar 2015

Granted, I will lose my chance to see some priorities acted on but guess what you do too and that is my point, if you ever want to have the chance not just in 4 or 8 years but ever again to see some of your priorities acted on you will help bend the party back at least into the acceptable range.

I don't want to play the hostage game anymore. I'll just shoot them myself and see what the hostage takers have to say then.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
23. In Kentucky, LGBT people have no protections from discrimination in employment!
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 01:04 PM
Mar 2015

So when I hear you declare that which is 'unacceptable' I think about that. The high melodrama in the verbiage of the devoutly and legally privileged.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
28. No one has any real workplace protections in Kentucky, it is an "at will state" they can fire you
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 01:27 PM
Mar 2015

for blinking one too many times, not enough, or even just the right amount of times just because they want to.

The little protected class stuff is meaningless practically except in the most blatant and over the top circumstances so even if guy folks had such paper protections, it would work like being black - no matter what your record and productivity is they will just say you are no longer a "fit" and call it a day as will the neutered and captured "labor board".

Straight people are canned for no reason all day every day in this motherfucker.

Anyone's pay can be cut to minimum wage with 24 hours notice.

If you are working class and depend on a paycheck there is no functional privileged status

Here you are trying to take a hostage again, then bang bang it is.

Work with me for real or see what deal you get out of the TeaPubliKlans, I'm not demanding perfection but rather a square deal and if that is privileged then so be it but I'm not only not convinced but don't give a damn if I am.

As far as I can tell we all get the same deal, out on our ass when they get ready.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
16. The usual pattern.
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 11:32 AM
Mar 2015

As a campaign season approaches, and some reject the "chosen one," there is an automatic assumption that rejection of one candidate means rejection of voting.

That's simply wrong. If one candidate doesn't earn a vote, there are others to choose from. In extreme cases, write-ins are always an option.

Not voting for the mainstream status quo is not the same thing as not voting.

Disclaimer: as it is a primary campaign season approaching, when DU rules allow us to reject Democratic candidates in favor of other Democratic candidates, no rules have been broken by pointing out the reality: not voting for one Democrat does not mean not voting at all.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
27. I'm not telling you who to vote for.
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 01:19 PM
Mar 2015

I'm telling you to make a wise choice. You will vote as you see fit, but please vote.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
29. I always do.
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 03:04 PM
Mar 2015

That's the point.

The assumption that someone unhappy with the status quo would stay home.

 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
17. I've voted in almost every Presidential and Congressional election since I was 18.
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 11:46 AM
Mar 2015

I used to think it could change things! But now we have Democrats proposing to fast track Social Security cuts while Corporations will have their taxes reduced even further?

Look I don't want more Republicans to win either but their is no denying anymore that our system is so broken that it's going to take a lot more hard work than just voting to fix.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
18. Nobody seems to want my vote.
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 12:07 PM
Mar 2015

And the only losers are the ones who keep voting for the lesser of 2 evils, and getting fucked anyway.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
22. Sure they want it but on their terms which are complete and unconditional surrender
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 01:02 PM
Mar 2015

"You'll take whatever we give you and you'll like it, where else you got to go suckers" is the motto.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
30. +1
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 05:50 PM
Mar 2015

This was part of a post from earlier this month:

No. You're gonna shut the fuck up, eat your words and suck it up and vote for Hillary

It was responded to, and this was what that poster had to say:

OK, so whatcha gonna do if she's the candidate? Go...hide in a closet and cry about how she's the new Franco?

Their attitude is the death of the party (which, at this point, I can't say I'd be that unhappy about).
 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
20. Blame the victim. Good stuff, man. Would make a great radio talk show.
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 12:21 PM
Mar 2015

"...a withheld vote actually sends no message at all."

Perhaps some of us are more willing readers than others.

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