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cali

(114,904 posts)
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 08:27 AM Mar 2015

New CNN Poll: Voters want someone willing to undo Obama policies

I'll say it again: Never overestimate the American voter. Yeah, yeah. That's mean and elitist. Well, just look at election 2014.

If you could create the perfect candidate to succeed Barack Obama as president, what would their background be and what would they think?

A new CNN/ORC poll finds most Americans say they would like a candidate who's a seasoned political leader, someone with an executive background, and someone who's willing to change Barack Obama's policies.

Rather than assessing the traits of individual candidates, the poll asked respondents to think about their perfect candidate and choose between two statements relating to several different traits often found in presidential candidates.

<snip>

Three statements generated wide-reaching support. Fifty-nine percent of Americans say they'd like a candidate who has been in the public eye as a political leader for many years over one who's new to the political scene. Further, 59% say they prefer a candidate with executive experience over one who's worked as a legislator, and 57% say their perfect Obama successor would change most of the policies enacted by Obama's administration.

There's a link to the poll at the site below.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/22/politics/2016-election-poll-perfect-candidate/index.html


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New CNN Poll: Voters want someone willing to undo Obama policies (Original Post) cali Mar 2015 OP
propaganda DonCoquixote Mar 2015 #1
Must be a poll of Iowa Republicans... LakeVermilion Mar 2015 #2
The truth is that only a very small percentage of Americans could accurately... MANative Mar 2015 #3
The exact verbiage: Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #4
Another case of manipulation for the masses. And the tiny percentage... MANative Mar 2015 #9
True. Do they want ground troops or end of war. JaneyVee Mar 2015 #12
Also could be the same illness that afflicts polls calimary Mar 2015 #30
As always...such summary numbers reduce a complex problem to a simple dialectic HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #5
That would include people who would want to make Obama's policies more progressive. DamnYankeeInHouston Mar 2015 #6
wow, Cali bigtree Mar 2015 #7
sorry, I don't have much faith in the electorate as a whole. cali Mar 2015 #13
And it's from the SQUIRREL!!! News Network hatrack Mar 2015 #8
More precisely 94 percent of repubs onenote Mar 2015 #10
I wonder how much Jeb spent on that poll. n/t winter is coming Mar 2015 #11
Yeah, let's go back to the glorious days of endless war, deficits and economic collapse! Adenoid_Hynkel Mar 2015 #14
My Motto - Don't Trust Polls Or Campaign Ads.....nt global1 Mar 2015 #15
Huh? NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #16
I suspect this poll is fake, like CNN. GeorgeGist Mar 2015 #17
Criticism above is noted, but a funny thing... Wounded Bear Mar 2015 #18
Yeah. And JEB wins on all of them. hedda_foil Mar 2015 #21
I disagree... Wounded Bear Mar 2015 #28
Obama Policies = Policies Made While Black daredtowork Mar 2015 #19
Would this be treason or sedition? hughee99 Mar 2015 #20
Please tell me you forgot the sarcasm smiley n/t SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2015 #22
I did. hughee99 Mar 2015 #23
When you only poll Repubs this is the result. I think Wolf Blitzer gives Bibi back rubs every chance Pisces Mar 2015 #24
What % said they want to end Obama's policy demwing Mar 2015 #25
it's such a stupid poll - i'd be embarrassed if i was in charge of it. samsingh Mar 2015 #26
Like the policy where I got older every year he was President BeyondGeography Mar 2015 #27
Jeb will bring more illegal wars, trillion dollar deficits, and another housing bubble. PM Martin Mar 2015 #29
Interviews with 1,009 adult Americans conducted by telephone by ORC International on Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #31

LakeVermilion

(1,044 posts)
2. Must be a poll of Iowa Republicans...
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 08:34 AM
Mar 2015

On the other hand, it might reflect the disdain that the Obama administration has had in regard to public education. They have thrown a lot of hard working educators under the bus.

MANative

(4,112 posts)
3. The truth is that only a very small percentage of Americans could accurately...
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 08:43 AM
Mar 2015

identify or explain any of Obama's policies, with the single likely exception of the ACA. I'd bet that the questions were worded in the generic rather than specific to any actual Obama initiative, enacted or not. "Do you want someone to keep or change the policies of the Obama Administration?" would sound about right.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
4. The exact verbiage:
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 08:51 AM
Mar 2015
The candidate would continue most of the policies of the Obama administration 41%
The candidate would change most of the policies of the Obama administration 57%


And this is why you get fairly useless results from such polls.

They don't specify the specific policies the person wants changed, or HOW they want them changed.

Are those polled against letting the poor have healthcare? We don't know.
Are those polled against using drone strikes all around the world? We don't know.
Are those polled against allowing gays in the military? We don't know.
Are those polled against keeping for-profit insurance companies in between you and your doctor? We don't know.

They could be 'against' most policies from the right or the left, and 'most' apparently means 'any policy I can think of while being polled'. And most people more easily remember things they're against than things they're for.

MANative

(4,112 posts)
9. Another case of manipulation for the masses. And the tiny percentage...
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 09:14 AM
Mar 2015

of people who will even think to question what the poll asked and what its results mean (absolutely nothing of worth) is horribly depressing.

calimary

(81,487 posts)
30. Also could be the same illness that afflicts polls
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 07:55 PM
Mar 2015

that claim not to like the ACA. It will likely be interpreted as "thinks Obamacare sucks" BUT may just as likely be "don't like it because it didn't go far enough."

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
5. As always...such summary numbers reduce a complex problem to a simple dialectic
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 08:54 AM
Mar 2015

FOr example dissatisfaction with Obama's approach occurs on the right and left for quite different reasons, but when summed together don't reflect that difference...

Reducing polling into simple dialectic interpretation is even dumber than trying to have representative national leadership inside winner takes all system for the highest branch of government.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
7. wow, Cali
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 09:02 AM
Mar 2015

...that's a rather misleading headline for such an ambiguous poll.

'would change most of Obama's policies' - not undo, or repeal, but 'change.' Btw, is it really a surprise to find that 94% of republicans want to see that 'change' of his policies - or that only 22% of Democrats polled want those changes?

Which policies would they change? Who the hell knows from this poll? I'll bet this isn't something that's especially unusual for a two-term lame-duck, but it's definitely the type of push-polling I'd expect from CNN, and not something which I'd give any serious consideration.

onenote

(42,763 posts)
10. More precisely 94 percent of repubs
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 09:14 AM
Mar 2015

The only surprise is that it wasn't 99.9 percent. And the 22 percent of Democrats who want change almost certainly don't want the same change as the repubs. In other words the poll results are basically worhless.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
16. Huh?
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 10:49 AM
Mar 2015

If anything, President Obama didn't (or wasn't able to) go far enough? Remember all the "socialist" rhetoric the Republicans threw at him? I wish we'd seen a little more socialism.

Granted I'm not a big fan of the President's gun policies, but he never got them enacted anyway.

Obamacare? Should have been single-payer, universal healthcare in my opinion. Limbaugh wants to call that socialism? Fine with me. I think most people are starting to understand what nuts he and his ilk are anyway.

Wounded Bear

(58,713 posts)
18. Criticism above is noted, but a funny thing...
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 11:19 AM
Mar 2015

and I'm not a diehard supporter, but...

Hillary wins on at least two of those items.

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
21. Yeah. And JEB wins on all of them.
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 04:07 PM
Mar 2015

If other polls come in this way, and this one isn't an outlier, Hilary won't stand a chance. Honestly, I'm stunned by these statistics.

Wounded Bear

(58,713 posts)
28. I disagree...
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 07:42 PM
Mar 2015

Jeb hasn't held office in years, and hasn't been much in the public eye during that time because of the name recognition.

Hillary has been kept in the public eye through the endless Benghazi investigations and other RW bullshit. They hate her and they've been giving her a lot of free publicity.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
19. Obama Policies = Policies Made While Black
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 12:16 PM
Mar 2015

As several other comments stated, few people could actually identify what the policies of Obama's administration have been.

Even the ACA would be a hard one to tease out since the actual experience of that has been largely controlled by the States.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
20. Would this be treason or sedition?
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 12:25 PM
Mar 2015

With this story, CNN has sent a message to Iran that the president's policies can be changed AND that a majority of the American people are looking for someone who WILL change president Obama's policies.

I think that undermines the president's Iran negotiations even more than just suggesting that the president's Executive agreements can be changed by the next president, so if there was even a question that the idiotic letter the Republicans wrote was a violation of the Logan Act, this story should be a slam dunk.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
23. I did.
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 07:05 PM
Mar 2015

I wasn't one of the people arguing that the republican's letter, scummy and inappropriate as it was, amounted to any sort of actionable treason or sedition, but for those people who did argue that, doesn't it weaken president Obama's bargaining position even more to say that not only CAN the next administration undo executive actions from the Obama Administration but also that a majority of the American public (at the moment, if this poll is believed) are looking for a president who WILL do that?

Pisces

(5,602 posts)
24. When you only poll Repubs this is the result. I think Wolf Blitzer gives Bibi back rubs every chance
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 07:08 PM
Mar 2015

he gets.


 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
25. What % said they want to end Obama's policy
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 07:33 PM
Mar 2015

of allowing a black man to live in the White House?

PM Martin

(2,660 posts)
29. Jeb will bring more illegal wars, trillion dollar deficits, and another housing bubble.
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 07:49 PM
Mar 2015

Is that what most Americans want?

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
31. Interviews with 1,009 adult Americans conducted by telephone by ORC International on
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 07:59 PM
Mar 2015

March 13-15, 2015. The margin of sampling error for results based on the total sample is plus or minus 3 percentage points.
This sample includes 605 interviews among landline respondents and 404 interviews among cell phone respondents.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/03/22/2016.wish.list.pdf

51% wants a candidate that agrees with them on all major issues.
57% want to undo all of Obama's policies.

Sounds to me like their sample was a bit skewed toads the right.

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