Hillary Clinton Retains Strong Appeal to American Women

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Princeton , N.J. -- Women continue to have a much more positive opinion of Hillary Clinton than men do. Fifty-six percent of women have a favorable opinion of Clinton, while 32% view her unfavorably. Men are evenly divided in their opinions of Clinton.





The results are based on a March 2-4 Gallup poll, conducted as revelations about her use of a private email account to conduct government business were emerging, but before she publicly addressed the issue. Clinton is expected to officially announce her presidential candidacy for the 2016 election next month. Her combination of high familiarity among the general public and more positive than negative favorable ratings puts her in a more advantageous early position regarding her image than any of her potential 2016 rivals.

Clinton owes much of her strong early position among possible 2016 candidates to her appeal to women. This gender difference in her image ratings is not new; Gallup has previously documented wide gender gaps in views of Clinton while she was first lady, U.S. senator, a presidential candidate in 2008, and most recently, secretary of state



http://www.gallup.com/poll/182081/hillary-clinton-retains-strong-appeal-american-women.aspx

[Thinkingabout]

1. Hillary has been a long advocate on women's issues. This is something which

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Needs attention. It will not get better until some of the issues are changed, like pay equalization.

I have yet to go into a business which gives a discount of 23% to all females but female salaries are 23% lower.

[Lancero]

50. I thought it was 23%?

[Thinkingabout]

53. Sorry i will correct.

[Savannahmann]

3. Why not, they did in large numbers in 2014.

For example, Wendy Davis? 54% of women voted against Wendy. http://www.cnn.com/election/2014/results/state/TX/governor

In Kentucky, only 47% of women voted for Allison Lundgren Grimes. http://www.cnn.com/election/2014/results/state/KY/senate

One woman did manage to get more votes, but it was Mia Love, Republican in Utah. http://www.cnn.com/election/2014/results/state/UT/house/04

In Iowa, the Women's vote was split. Of course, we all know that the Republicans won with Joni the pig castrator. http://www.cnn.com/election/2014/results/state/IA/senate

In Louisiana, less than half the women voted for Mary Landrieu during the General, no word on the runoff, but she lost, so we can assume her numbers didn't increase then can't we? http://www.cnn.com/election/2014/results/state/LA/senate

So what makes you think that women won't vote for the GOP? History clearly shows that they will, and do. In fact, the GOP picked up a 1% increase in women voters in 2012 over 2008. Perhaps that's where the additional million voters for the Republicans came from.

http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/results/president/exit-polls

In the same four year period, four million fewer people voted for President Obama in 2012 than 2008. So I was wondering, what makes you certain that women will turn out for Hillary in numbers greater than turned out in 2014 or even 2012? Some polling perhaps? Because her support is about the same that voted for President Obama in 2008, but not the numbers from 2012. Eh, what's one percent, a million votes here, and a million votes there, and we're outside of the fence looking in at a Republican Trifecta. White House, House, and Senate. Oh what a joyous day that would be for us. No wait, it sucked the last time.

[JaneyVee]

7. That election had the lowest turnout in 70 years.

[Savannahmann]

44. Not for Republicans.

They got a million more voters to the polls than they did in 2008.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. I like to post...NT

[SidDithers]

11. Welcome to DU...

Sid

[DemocratSinceBirth]

39. Snort

DSB

[freshwest]

41. Lots of JAQs today. You know, there's one I was meaning to ask you about.

Was on a long thread Friday. The new poster had started a thread. Fought and insulted every single poster on the thread. Did you see that one?

[HereSince1628]

20. Unfortunately in his re-election last Nov. Walker won ~42% of the women's vote.

While it may seem inconceivable to us, it was to a lot of women.

Burke had a 5-7% lead among women throughout most of the polling yet fell ingloriously.

I'm not sure the women's vote can be trusted to be overwhelmingly for a woman candidate in WI.

[NaturalHigh]

40. Actually, yes, a lot of women will.

Fortunately Secretary Clinton will crush any of the top three Republican frontrunners.

[Fred Sanders]

5. Wonderful role model, wonderful woman, wonderful spouse, wonderful child, wonderful first female President, a

natural progression from Obama.

Go wipe the grins off the faces of the media and GOP fascists and the lapdog media, Madame Secretary.

Do not let the naysayers say nah, no matter what Party or childish media.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. I like the cut of your jib, sir./NT

[Fred Sanders]

9. 15 points over every Christofascist Republican clown candidate, and some liberals are whining...incredible

[secondwind]

8. she is polling ahead of anyone in the GOP "pack"

[Fred Sanders]

10. Ahead? Try "trouncing". Keeping the White House is the prime directive, it is vital...to the world.

Folks have to stop the domestic navel gazing and realize the world is genuinely frightened of the Republican Fascist Party and take a more world wide and eclectic look.

Then there is only one choice, and that choice leads to peace and new SCOTUS. Simoly a continuation of Obama is fine for me....and the world.

Folks like choices, they are impatient, it is a "do it now" click bait society, fine, but wake up to the topical political reality. The arc of history and Justice is long.

Get rid of the fascist enemies - let The Change continue.

[freshwest]

42. Yes, they've really ticked a lot of people overseas off! The world sees the problem.

And it ain't all of us and it ain't Obama, either.

By the way, he's taunted the press by calling her 'the next President' with glee and they can't take it.

I hope he's right, Dems must keep at least one branch of government or it's gonna be WW3, no kidding.

[LittleBlue]

12. Women will be disproportionately crushed by Hillary's Wall St friendly policies

Almost two-thirds of minimum wage workers are women. Does anyone believe she's receiving $250k a speech from Goldman and friends to institute women-friendly policies?

Any women voting for Hillary are digging their own graves. Unless they are among the 1%, of course.

[Fred Sanders]

13. Ad hominem.

[LittleBlue]

15. Do you really think that, given the choice, Hillary will betray her biggest financial backers

for the poor single mother making $8 an hour?

Not a chance. Every bankster insures against loss. She's the insurance in the event that a Republican loses.

[Fred Sanders]

16. Ad hominem redux.

[LittleBlue]

21. Warren Buffett's latest investment: Hillary Clinton

Warren Buffett's latest investment: Hillary Clinton

The Berkshire Hathaway CEO donated $25,000 in the third quarter to Ready for Hillary, a political organization that says it is laying the groundwork for a Clinton presidential run in 2016.

Warren Buffett is putting his money where his mouth is when it comes to Hillary Clinton.

http://fortune.com/2014/12/04/warren-buffett-hillary-clinton/

"I think that she would do better if she was less angry and demonizing," the 84-year-old Berkshire Hathaway CEO said of the fiery Democratic senator, who has often articulated anti-Wall Street positions, on Monday, according to Business Insider. "I'm not sure that I've fully convinced Elizabeth Warren that that's the way to go."

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-03-02/buffett-elizabeth-warren-is-too-angry-and-demonizing-

If this is also ad hominem, then we really wronged Rmoney for criticizing his wealthy donors. Maybe an apology is in order?

[Fred Sanders]

23. Fighting fascists costs money. How much money do folks on DU have for the fight in this election finance wasteland?

[LittleBlue]

26. With funding from someone who thinks Warren is too hostile to Wall Street

Obviously he perceives Hillary as someone who is more friendly to Wall Street. They don't call him The Oracle for nothing

[peacebird]

14. +1 HRC is for the bankers and the corporations. DLCer thru and thru.

Nothing but window dressing for the people.

[Divernan]

32. Excellent points in your responses on this thread, Little Blue.

[sadoldgirl]

17. Is there an opposite of appeal?

Then count this old girl for using it. I hope that my gender is
mainly voting on the issues, and not for a woman, because
of her gender. I certainly would welcome a woman as president,
but also a Latina or Asian American or a lesbian. That does not
mean that women are a token for a woman candidate.

As a matter of fact I would take that attitude as an insult.

[Fred Sanders]

19. The opposite of "appeal" is President Christofukuistan.

[sadoldgirl]

22. That is utterly ridiculous.

May I remind all you Hillary supporters that threats are
a repuglican method, and that NOBODY is running yet?!

[Fred Sanders]

25. Many folks are simply supporters of not having a fascist State, and reject white hat/black hat thinking.

[sadoldgirl]

29. And you really think that we are not 2/3 there already?n/t

[Fred Sanders]

30. Exactly. Not there yet...protect the 1/3...protect the White House....not rocket science.

American liberals do not have the luxury of playing The Hat Game.

There are simply not enough angry old white men voters to take the Executive Branch away from us.

Clinton WILL energize a whole new generation of young women, and young men, voters.

The Liberal future is there.

[sadoldgirl]

31. This makes me laugh,

but I do like people with great illusions, better
than total cynics.

[Divernan]

33. Young women I know would dump philandering husbands out of self-respect.

They certainly cannot fathom how an intelligent woman with all the career/social advantages of a Yale law degree would stay married to a serial adulterer, let alone enable him at the expense of all the women he seduced.

A lot of women in Hilary's generation put up with cheating husbands "for the sake of the children" and after the kids were grown, for the sake of financial security. At least most of their husbands, unlike Bill, had the decency and CLASS to keep their affairs on the down-low. That is not a role model for today's young women.

[Fred Sanders]

45. Each person has to make their own judgment. Each situation is unique. Who are you to judge?

[Divernan]

46. You put yourself up for president, you ask to be judged!

As you full well realize from reading my post to which you responded, I did allow for varying situations, such as financial welfare of children and/or the cheated on spouse. Anyone who puts themselves up to run for president realizes they will be judged on their past actions and the values by which they live.

Tell me, hypothetically, if you had a daughter or a sister with HRC's intelligence and superior education(Yale Law degree), and demonstrated ability to make more money than her husband, would you encourage her to stay with a serial adulterous husband who not only repeatedly cheated on her, but then lied to her about it, and set her up to be humiliated on a national and international level?

I wouldn't! The psychological abuse of decades of rejection (You're not enough woman for me, I HAD to find other women) has shaped her personality, just as surely as when a parent psychologically rejects and humiliates their child. She projects out her decades of repressed anger (at the most basic betrayal a woman can experience) onto her husband's sexual victims, her political opponents (her list keeping with the intent of wreaking revenge), and pushing bloodthirsty, but oh-so-profitable military solutions to complex political problems.

http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/14401-hillary-clintons-legacy-as-secretary-of-state

Hillary Clinton leaves her position as Secretary of State with a legacy of supporting autocratic regimes and occupation armies, opposing enforcement of international humanitarian law, undermining arms control and defending military solutions to complex political problems(writes Truthout's Stephen Zunes, describing her complicity in the murder of thousands, most notably in Libya and Syria.)

She was appointed to her position following eight years in the US Senate, during which she became an outspoken supporter of the invasion and occupation of Iraq, lied about Iraq's military capabilities to frighten the public into supporting the illegal war, unleashed repeated attacks against the United Nations, opposed restrictions on land mines and cluster bombs, defended war crimes by allied right-wing governments and largely embraced Bush's unilateralist agenda.

“During the Arab Spring, Clinton pushed for stronger US support for pro-Western dictators in Tunisia, Egypt, Yemen and Bahrain, as well as the Moroccan occupation of Western Sahara,” Zunes continues. “She was a major proponent of NATO’s military intervention in Libya’s civil war and has encouraged a more active US role in the Syrian conflict.”

“We came, we saw, he died,” Clinton joked in response to the barbaric murder of deposed Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi at the hands of the CIA’s cutthroat (and beheading) mercenaries. Her sneering comment should not come as a surprise, however. In October, 2011, she openly called for his assassination. “This is Libya’s moment. This is Libya’s victory. The future belongs to you,” Clinton said during a visit to the embattled country. “Libya’s victory” resulted in the murder of 30,000 Libyans, most innocent men, women, and children.

[Fred Sanders]

47. Again, it was a very personal spousal situation, and individual decision....who are you to judge every personal situation?

Giving marital advise to complete strangers via the Internet is the definition of "judgmental".

Who am I to judge?

[Divernan]

48. Bill's high risk self-indulgence while in a fish-bowl of public office destroyed "personal"aspect

When Bill slickly talked Hillary into believing his lies and got her to go on national television to angrily defend him, and when said denial was rebroadcast around the world, and then it was revealed he set her up for this international humiliation - setting a world record for the depth of spousal betrayal, then there's no personal, i.e, private, aspect left to her humiliation and his lies.

What mature, mentally healthy adult has not learned the lesson of "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me."?

Surely you know that when one is considering running for high level political office, one is grilled by one's party on any skeletons in the closet which an opponent may discover via oppo research. Do provide a link where any political consultant says, "Personal life or scandals? Oh, no worries! Nobody will look at that!"

And that's BEFORE they are elected. Once elected they are subject to public scrutiny 24/7.

Now returning to my hypothetical question, what advice would you give to a daughter or sister in HRC's "spousal situation"?

[Fred Sanders]

49. Go with your head and your heart. And so she did. It is her head, her heart.

Giving marital advice to strangers is condescending.

[bettyellen]

52. Women I know would not appreciate being judged by strangers for their purely personal decisions

Especially not judged that way when it comes to suitability for a job. One has nothing to do with the other. Women should be free to make those choices. Not everyone share your values. That is ridiculous.

[Divernan]

56. The Clintons' "personal decisions" wreaked havoc on the presidency once.

Once is enough.

[bettyellen]

57. Many women forgive cheaters, many divorce them- BOTH are "no win" situations in which a woman is

judged more harshly. You really think we care if she stayed or divorced him? Nope- we care that people are stupid enough to punish her for having a personal life. That is insulting to all women who work.

Havoc created by RW nut jobs is not a big concern for most women. Sorry- those assholes are invading or vaginas with all sorts of scopes, and trying to demonize and denigrate all women and prevent them for having choices and equal pay. Those things matter greatly. Just like anyone who criticizes Hillary for the bags under her eyes, her ugly shoes, or her less than sweet tone of voice- having a "perfect family" is another thing we know we are unfairly judged for, all day, every day. No sale.

[Divernan]

59. Divorcing a repeat offender cheater is a big win, not a loss.

This has zero to do with equal pay, or her shoes, physical appearance, etc. It has to do with demanding honesty and respect, and not lies and international public humiliation from her husband.

And I disagree that divorcing a serial cheater is a no win situation. That's what women who stay with serial cheaters tell themselves to rationalize their decision. Staying with a cheater if the alternative is poverty makes sense. Basic needs, i.e, survival comes before self esteem on the Maslow hierarchy of needs. But absent povety, divorce frees a spouse to find someone who is capable of actually loving them and who can be depended upon to take their marriage vows seriously. And with a Yale law degree, and a demonstrated ability to make more money than her husband, HRC had no worries about financing a very comfortable life.

[bettyellen]

60. Staying out of our personal lives when we are working is much bigger. I'd discredit any

Pundit that wanted to focus on this as a sexist piece of shit.
You're ascribing motives for her staying with him when you have no way of knowing. She may actually give less of a shit about the cheating than you do! Fidelity is not every persons top priority- stop pretending otherwise. You do not know how happy she is with her life with Bill. Get past the silly guesses and MYOB.

Sorry, I haven't met one woman who appreciates this kind of judgement on their marriage. That's personal- not fodder to gossip about and judge. Nope. It's completely irrelevant as far as work goes. And insulting to speculate on.

Same with male execs having ton"settle down" with a woman in a church sanctioned wedding to prove he is "stable".

[William769]

18. "Thy sea, O God, so great,

My boat so small,
It cannot be that any happy fate,
Will me befall,
Save as Thy goodness opens paths for me,
Through the consuming vastness of the sea.

Thy winds, O God, so strong,
So slight my sail.
How could I cub and bit them on the long
and salty trail,
Unless Thy love were mightier than the wrath
Of all the tempests that beset my path?

Thy world, O God, so fierce,
And I so frail.
Yet, though its arrows threaten oft to pierce
My fragile mail,
Cities of refuge rise where dangers cease,
Sweet silences abound, and all is peace."

That's how I think of Hillary. There was also another great President that had that in the Oval Office.

[hrmjustin]

34. Amen!

[freshwest]

43. ISBM and I shared two of the ones that influenced us most:

One that saw me through hellish days, and which he memorized to become part of his fraternity:

If - By Rudyard Kipling

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And - which is more - you’ll be a Man, my son!

The version I had left the last line to make it gender inclusive, I guess.

Another he had to learn was:

Invictus by William Erbest Henley

Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds and shall find me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.

And yet another:

Don't Quit:

When things go wrong, as they sometimes will,
When the road you're trudging seems all uphill,
When the funds are low and the debts are high,
And you want to smile, but you have to sigh,
When care is pressing you down a bit
Rest if you must, but don't you quit.

Life is queer with its twists and its turns,
As everyone of us sometimes learns,
And many a failure turns about
When they might have won, had they stuck it out.
Don't give up though the pace seems slow,
You may succeed with another blow.

Often the goal is nearer than,
It seems to a faint and faltering man,
Often the struggler has given up
When he might have captured the victor's cup;
And he learned too late when the night came down,
How close he was to the golden crown.

Success is failure turned inside out
The silver tint of the clouds of doubt
And you never can tell how close you are,
It may be near when it seems so far;
So stick to the fight when you're hardest hit,
It's when things seem worst that you must not quit!

Some of the Psalms helped me during the long, hard nights, trying to figure out how to make it through to the morning. The dark passages of the night, some would call them.

I'm sure Hillary has seen some of them. I've also found that anyone who stood up for something in life, sadly, will also accumulate enemies.

[DeSwiss]

24. More's the pity.

- It is a perfect example of everything that's wrong with this country and its morals.

We have none.

[still_one]

27. No surprise, it is probably even better than the poll indicates, especially seeing how repugs are

In regard to women's rights

[dflprincess]

28. I find any candidate, regardless of gender,

that adheres to traditional Democratic values and who won't sell us out to Wall Street or threaten the tattered remains of the safety net appealing.

Clinton does not fit that criteria

[McCamy Taylor]

36. Damn straight!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

37. I wonder how much she appeals to Iraqi women after so many of them were killed

with Hillary's approval.

[MADem]

38. Given that Gallup is traditionally "unfriendly" to Democrats, that number might be higher, still. nt

[99Forever]

51. Okay.

How is that supposed to make up for her pro-war, pro-MIC, pro-bankster, pro-TPP/anti-worker stances?

[LWolf]

54. To SOME women.

Not this American woman, although I do believe that her stances on women's issues are her best; perhaps the only positive she's got.

[Beacool]

55. Not surprising.

It has always been so for Hillary and for other powerful women. Men seem conflicted about women in powerful positions.

Nothing new..........

[NCTraveler]

58. trongly appeals to me.

You go girl!!!!!!!!!!