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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsStunning photo - Chippewa Indian girl, 1907
Portrait of an Ojibway, or Chippewa Indian girl by Roland W. Reed, National Geographic, 1907
Just beautiful.
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)Just sitting here starring at her. Wow.
Cha
(297,322 posts)and son.
Is there a link?
LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)Cha
(297,322 posts)unionthug777
(740 posts)not that I am biased or anything. ( I am ojibwe)
ojibwe !!!!
Scuba
(53,475 posts)unionthug777
(740 posts)always to the left !! how goes it wayyyyyyyyy up north there?
Scuba
(53,475 posts)unionthug777
(740 posts)it's about time !!! daffodils are sprouting fast.
Cha
(297,322 posts)mountain grammy
(26,624 posts)reminds me of song lyrics by Tim McGraw:
I'm an Indian outlaw
Half Cherokee and Choctaw
My baby she's a Chippewa
She's one of a kind
El Shaman
(583 posts)I wonder how we lost it all?
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)is full of racist stereotypes. Yuck.
And unless you're an enrolled tribal member, bragging about your "Indian blood" is part of the same tradition of casual erasure of real Native people in favor of mythologies, stereotypes, and appropriations.
The girl in the photo is a white man's fantasy of an exotic "Indian maid" in nature. In reality she was witness to the genocide of her people.
National Geographic is the Riefenstahl of that genocide.
davidsilver
(87 posts)mountain grammy
(26,624 posts)in Arizona. I asked the American Indians we were sitting with, who were obviously enjoying the song, why it wasn't offensive to them. They laughed and said it should offend me. They thought the song was actually poking fun at white people who boast of having Indian blood. I said I was completely ok with it, and loved the song.
I remember some controversy about the song but this one is really in the eye of the beholder.
I don't like the Redskins mascot for the NFL team because I see it as racist. Traveling through the Navajo Nation this year we passed a high school with a marquee proudly announcing it was the "HOME OF THE REDSKINS." I had a chance to ask about this, and the Indians I talked to said it really is an individual thing with some tribal members wanting to leave the name and others wanting to change it. So far, the team is still the "Redskins."
Personally, I still don't like the term.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/in-arizona-a-navajo-high-school-emerges-as-a-defender-of-the-washington-redskins/2014/10/26/dcfc773a-592b-11e4-8264-deed989ae9a2_story.html
The girl in the photo is no "white man's fantasy" because it's an actual photograph.
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virgogal
(10,178 posts)aikoaiko
(34,172 posts)raven mad
(4,940 posts)Thank you.
yuiyoshida
(41,832 posts)wonderful!
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)oxymoron
(4,053 posts)It's a deeply moving image.
radhika
(1,008 posts)I didn't know him, but found so many gorgeous images just by Googling. Here's one link, as a start....
http://www.artnet.com/artists/roland-reed/past-auction-results
oxymoron
(4,053 posts)It was too late to edit. Wonderful collection.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)So beautiful.
FourScore
(9,704 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Wow.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)Jenoch
(7,720 posts)with lakes large enough to produce this image.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)Lake Superior. The picture just gave me a feeling.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)I have also been to most of the casinos in the state at one time or a other.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)Jenoch
(7,720 posts)it was that I lived in Duluth. The first Indian gaming was bingo. The Fond du Lac band did not own the property on which their casino was located (downtown Duluth) so they played blackjack (or "21" using numbered ping pong balls because the law was not clear about gambling using cards if the casino was not on the reservation.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)Also lakes big enough.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)...and that photograph is, as noted on this thread, perfection.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)Jenoch
(7,720 posts)Do you have a link with more information? I thought it could have been Red Lake, Mill Lacs, or even Leech or Vermillion.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Someplace like La Point in the Apostles, maybe.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)I am curious as to where the photo was taken. There several bands of Ojibwe in Minnesota (where I am from).
toothless dragon
(51 posts)Upper Red Lake sounds and looks correct... thought there are many lakes... the size looks right.... there are no islands... the lake looks fairly oval and the terrain is very flat... would appear to be from the south to the north... the population centers were all on the south shore I believe... If her name really is Ever Wind... I wonder if she is related to KaKaygeesick also knows as Everlasting Sky
Bulletin Justin
(41 posts)I have several photographs of Native Americans from various tribes hanging in my living room. My husband printed them years ago before he retired as a pressman. Every Wind's name was noted on the back of the photo.
She and a picture of Red Cloud watering his horse are my two favorites.
I think the name is wonderful and suits her perfectly.
Brother Buzz
(36,444 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)So beautiful
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)Beautiful.
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catbyte
(34,403 posts)She was Ojibwe, and I'm 5/8 Ojibwe with a dash of Lakota thrown in. The rest is French-Irish. Chii megwetch for posting!
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)I have a complete set of National Geographics up to 1997, and that photo does not appear in any of the 1907 editions, even in the edition which features the article "Indians of North America".
Brother Buzz
(36,444 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)I checked my September 1988 edition, and there it was-- on page 349. A really stunning photo
I wonder why it was not included in the original 1907 article?
Brother Buzz
(36,444 posts)In 1915 National Geographic Magazine licensed the rights to about 40 of his photographs, but fewer than eight were actually published between 1916 and 1988.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)My next question would be, why did it take National Geographic so long--73 years-- to publish this photo?
Brother Buzz
(36,444 posts)Nevertheless, I'll accept kudos from any quadrant.
Have you ever been to the Castle? They have a LOT of stuff that never gets published!
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Aristus
(66,388 posts)Thank you for sharing.
Richard D
(8,754 posts)AikenYankee
(135 posts)Delphinus
(11,831 posts)Simply beautiful. Thank you for sharing this.
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