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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 10:23 AM Mar 2015

The Huge Boehner-Pelosi Deal That Could Change Medicare Forever

Last edited Thu Mar 19, 2015, 01:55 PM - Edit history (1)

WASHINGTON — The House's top two leaders are on the verge of securing a sweeping deal to permanently fix a gaping hole in Medicare that has haunted Congress for more than a decade while also securing significant long-term savings in the program.

And shockingly, it has broad support among Democrats and Republicans, including even some hardline conservatives who have spent years thwarting bipartisan agreements.

House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) and Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) are aiming to finalize the deal this week and put it to a vote next week, leadership sources said. There's always a possibility of it imploding, but if the plan passes and is signed into law, it would be the most important piece of health care legislation since Obamacare, and a huge achievement for a Congress that has so far been marked by unusual dysfunction.

The deal would end the perennial Medicare "doc fix" problem by replacing the widely-maligned formula for reimbursing physicians, which currently imposes steep annual cuts that Congress has regularly overridden since 2002. It's a huge headache for lawmakers as powerful health industry groups have been clamoring for a permanent fix for years. The cost of repealing the existing "Sustainable Growth Rate" payment formula is $170 billion over a decade.

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The Huge Boehner-Pelosi Deal That Could Change Medicare Forever (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2015 OP
what else is in the deal? I'd like to know. nt antigop Mar 2015 #1
"another would reduce spending on supplemental "Medigap" plans that some elderly beneficiaries enjoy antigop Mar 2015 #2
Bingo. Yes, what is this about? Tom Rinaldo Mar 2015 #7
It makes no sense. antigop Mar 2015 #13
Maybe something to do with Medicaid acting as a Medigap when the senior is poor. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2015 #14
possibly...the article really isn't clear. But if what you said is true,aren't they sticking it antigop Mar 2015 #15
"Got to pass it to find out what's in it" NM_Birder Mar 2015 #3
why isn't there more interest in this thread? I would think this is important. Do DUers not need antigop Mar 2015 #4
Geez, the thread has been up for what--less than an hour? Give people time to MADem Mar 2015 #6
Same old story, same predictable outcome worded differently NM_Birder Mar 2015 #10
I do not trust the GOP edhopper Mar 2015 #5
I of course am wary also, but I have to admit that Nancy has generally been pretty good Tom Rinaldo Mar 2015 #8
Except when she supported cuts in SS n/t Oilwellian Mar 2015 #18
thanks for the heads up Don, wish i understood the specifics 2banon Mar 2015 #9
kick for exposure blogslut Mar 2015 #11
S far this seems to be the downside NV Whino Mar 2015 #12
ok, this thread was posted hours ago..why so little interest? Don't DUers need Medicare? nt antigop Mar 2015 #16
kick nt antigop Mar 2015 #17

antigop

(12,778 posts)
1. what else is in the deal? I'd like to know. nt
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 10:29 AM
Mar 2015

"Boehner told his House GOP members that he's working with House Democrats on "a permanent solution in exchange for structural reforms to Medicare,..."

Do we know what all of those "structural reforms to Medicare" are?

antigop

(12,778 posts)
2. "another would reduce spending on supplemental "Medigap" plans that some elderly beneficiaries enjoy
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 10:33 AM
Mar 2015

What is that all about?

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
7. Bingo. Yes, what is this about?
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 11:17 AM
Mar 2015

It's one of the aspects of this potential deal that this piece says Republicans are happy about, but absolutely NOTHING is offered in the way of any explanation about exactly what it entails. It's pretty hard to get positive about a potential deal that depends on what's behind unopened door number three.

antigop

(12,778 posts)
13. It makes no sense.
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 02:19 PM
Mar 2015

What spending does the government do on Medigap plans?

Medicare Advantage gets subsidies, but those aren't Medigap plans.

What in the world are they talking about?

antigop

(12,778 posts)
15. possibly...the article really isn't clear. But if what you said is true,aren't they sticking it
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 02:38 PM
Mar 2015

to the poor by reducing spending on it?

 

NM_Birder

(1,591 posts)
3. "Got to pass it to find out what's in it"
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 10:41 AM
Mar 2015


once it's passed,....... THEN we'll figure out the problems, then leave at least one or two MAJOR flaws in the program to give plenty of room to waste shit loads more money patching together flaws that should have been corrected BEFORE passing, we'll leave it venerable to de-funding and of course it will be sold a far sweeter deal for the "people" than it really is. Once it's passed what they gonna do ?

And of course, yes, it will still not completely correct the compounded problem, but we'll ignore the people negatively affected,.....after all what are they gonna do to affect elections ?


There is no legislation called "Obamacare", but the success of the ACA was certainly instrumental in the sweeping victories in the last two elections..... too bad the sweep was in the wrong direction.


statistically speaking at some point our "leaders" will get something right.

antigop

(12,778 posts)
4. why isn't there more interest in this thread? I would think this is important. Do DUers not need
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 11:04 AM
Mar 2015

Medicare?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
6. Geez, the thread has been up for what--less than an hour? Give people time to
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 11:08 AM
Mar 2015

figure out what's going on, here--this is a new news story.

edhopper

(33,580 posts)
5. I do not trust the GOP
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 11:07 AM
Mar 2015

to not put a poison pill of some sort in this bill.

And I question the Dems will to oppose it.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
8. I of course am wary also, but I have to admit that Nancy has generally been pretty good
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 11:19 AM
Mar 2015

about protecting what is important about so called "entitlement" programs.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
9. thanks for the heads up Don, wish i understood the specifics
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 11:34 AM
Mar 2015

you know, the actual impact on beneficiaries. But they never reveal that stuff until it's a fait accompli. maybe more will be revealed when it goes to the Senate?

NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
12. S far this seems to be the downside
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 12:00 PM
Mar 2015
For Democrats, the draw is that CHIP would be extended and Medicare benefits would be preserved and protected for middle class Americans who need it. The downside for them is that it drops their longstanding demand that any deal to cut entitlement benefits include provisions to raise tax revenues.


So far.
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