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pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 05:13 PM Mar 2015

JEB's "baffling" response to Hillary's email kerfuffle.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/jeb-bushs-email-troubles-grow-more-serious?cid=sm_fb_maddow

Hillary Clinton’s private email account during her tenure as Secretary of State has been the subject of enormous interest to the media and Republicans, with former Gov. Jeb Bush (R) helping lead the charge. “For security purposes, you need to be behind a firewall that recognizes the world for what it is, and it’s a dangerous world, and security would mean that you couldn’t have a private server,” the Republican complained last week. “It’s a little baffling, to be honest with you, that didn’t come up in Secretary Clinton’s thought process.”

It’s equally baffling that Bush had no idea how vulnerable he was on the issue he’s chosen to complain about.

Jeb Bush used his private e-mail account as Florida governor to discuss security and military issues such as troop deployments to the Middle East and the protection of nuclear plants, according to a review of publicly released records.

The e-mails include two series of exchanges involving details of Florida National Guard troop deployments after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, the review by The Washington Post found.


SNIP

What we’re left with are legitimate concerns about Bush’s judgment. When he went on the offensive on the Clinton email story, did he not think his own, nearly identical problems would emerge? Or was this a case in which Team Jeb went on the attack without bothering to recognize their vulnerability?
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JEB's "baffling" response to Hillary's email kerfuffle. (Original Post) pnwmom Mar 2015 OP
My thoughts also. To pass security information in emails is scary. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #1
Hillary has stated that she never transmitted classified information pnwmom Mar 2015 #3
It is a lot todo about nothing. The Clinton's reputation is on the side of caution Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #6
Why would former president Clinton be getting briefings on that server??? NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #7
Bill Clinton was getting briefings on Jeb Bush's server? OilemFirchen Mar 2015 #8
I would think the Clinton's would be safe enough for President Clinton to receive security briefings NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #12
You can read information on former president's briefings: Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #9
No, private citizens do not receive copies of the Presidential Daily Briefings, period. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #13
Did you read the article? Former presidents have been receiving briefings.you know they Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #14
Nothing I see in that article says anything at all about former presidents getting the PDB. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #15
Perhaps this will supply more info Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #16
Surely you don't think "semuwemba" is an authoritative source. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #18
Sometimes facts just does not matter, just as the RW is consiidering this to be Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #19
"Better start thinking of a new candidate." DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #17
Somehow it all looks sinister when somebody else does it, Chemisse Mar 2015 #2
Apparently he's as dumb as his brother. Two peas in a pod. n/t pnwmom Mar 2015 #4
Baby Boots was truly a dummy Politicalboi Mar 2015 #5
I have no questions about his judgment, it is beyond wrongheaded and vile. TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Mar 2015 #11

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. My thoughts also. To pass security information in emails is scary.
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 05:20 PM
Mar 2015

I have not heard if Jeb's server was as secure as the one Hillary used. I would think the Clinton's would be safe enough for President Clinton to receive security briefings.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
3. Hillary has stated that she never transmitted classified information
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 05:23 PM
Mar 2015

over her email system.

I can't imagine her talking about things like the safety of nuclear plants in an email, but we know Bush did.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
6. It is a lot todo about nothing. The Clinton's reputation is on the side of caution
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 05:30 PM
Mar 2015

So I doubt she would have loosely have allowed communication to have been easily hacked. They don't have anything on her so they manufacture crap.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
7. Why would former president Clinton be getting briefings on that server???
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 05:32 PM
Mar 2015

He was by then a private citizen.

Why is she shooting herself in the foot with this crap, these ridiculous decisions and horrible excuses?

Two devices were too "inconvenient"?



OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
8. Bill Clinton was getting briefings on Jeb Bush's server?
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 06:41 PM
Mar 2015

That's very odd, indeed.

And whoever she is, I hope her foot heals.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
12. I would think the Clinton's would be safe enough for President Clinton to receive security briefings
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 08:58 PM
Mar 2015

Was said by another member, I was replying to that.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
9. You can read information on former president's briefings:
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 06:49 PM
Mar 2015
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/President%27s_Daily_Brief

Perhaps you did know but private citizens also receive security briefings.

As far as Hillary shooting herself in the foot, don't think so, and the crap part is correct, it appears her server retained the information but the .gov server did not always retain the information. This is a lot of todo about nothing.
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
13. No, private citizens do not receive copies of the Presidential Daily Briefings, period.
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 09:06 PM
Mar 2015

And Hillary laid the groundwork for her own undoing.

Better start thinking of a new candidate.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
14. Did you read the article? Former presidents have been receiving briefings.you know they
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 09:17 PM
Mar 2015

Have security clearances. Congressional members has security clearances also along with SOS. Individuals can be set up at American embassies to receive travel advisories, not as an elected official. There are reasons to receive travel advisories if you travel to other countries.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
15. Nothing I see in that article says anything at all about former presidents getting the PDB.
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 09:50 PM
Mar 2015

You're going to need to paste an excerpt because I just don't see it there.

Travel advisories are an entirely different matter.

And, where any sensitive or classified material is distributed to individuals, it needs to be done through government channels on government equipment.

And that didn't take place here.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
18. Surely you don't think "semuwemba" is an authoritative source.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 12:46 AM
Mar 2015

And, even if true, getting some intelligence briefings is not the equivalent of receiving "Daily Presidential Briefings" the same as the sitting president.

And all the more reason to pull take the server out of Chappaqua and into protective custody for examination.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
19. Sometimes facts just does not matter, just as the RW is consiidering this to be
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 05:59 AM
Mar 2015

The "scandal of all scandals" it still remains a non scandal. Even if she had been using the .gov server her emails may not have been saved.

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
2. Somehow it all looks sinister when somebody else does it,
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 05:22 PM
Mar 2015

And just as innocent as can be when you do it yourself.

A smarter man would have realized this.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
5. Baby Boots was truly a dummy
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 05:25 PM
Mar 2015

And that didn't stop them. Nor did the press question his IQ enough. They wrote it off as "coining" his own words, how cute. Bush's have a way of avoiding charges and questions no one dares ask. He'll lie about it and we'll move on to other things.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
10. I have no questions about his judgment, it is beyond wrongheaded and vile.
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 06:55 PM
Mar 2015

Probably underrated on the stupid meter as well, papered over by wearing glasses and not having a fake/random southern accent.

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