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liberal N proud

(60,336 posts)
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 07:23 AM Mar 2015

Theocracy rules in Oklahoma

Oklahoma House passes bill restricting marriage to people of faith

March 11, 2015


A bill that would restrict the right to marry to people of faith and would mandate all marriage licenses be approved by a member of the clergy was approved by the Oklahoma state House on Tuesday.

The bill, approved by a Republican majority, now goes to the state Senate for consideration.

House Bill 1125, sponsored by Republican State Representative Todd Russ, is a radical measure that would end secular marriage licenses in the state. In addition, the bill would bar all judges and other secular officials from performing marriages in Oklahoma.

Russ claims the radical legislation is motivated by his desire to protect court clerks from having to issue licenses to same-sex couples. Russ says he doesn’t want these workers put in the position of having to condone or facilitate same-sex marriage.

Under the legislation, atheists and others not wanting to be married by a religious official could file an affidavit through the court clerk’s office claiming a common-law marriage.


Read more: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2015/03/oklahoma-house-passes-bill-restricting-marriage-to-people-of-faith/#ixzz3UXxyBgHP

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hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
1. It's ruled there for some time.
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 07:27 AM
Mar 2015

This is just the latest in their attempts to codify a Xian version of Sharia

bluesbassman

(19,374 posts)
2. To "protect" court clerks? What, do they get cooties or something?
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 07:40 AM
Mar 2015

If your job is that distateful to you, quit and find another line of work.

Even the activist Justices on the SC would have to strike this down if it ever made it's way to OK law.

liberal N proud

(60,336 posts)
10. Maybe they fear they will become gay dealing with gay people.
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 08:59 AM
Mar 2015

Just guessing on that one based on the homophobia observations and the that they think they can cure homosexuality.

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OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
5. Bill may totally backfire
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 07:49 AM
Mar 2015
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/03/13/3633556/is-this-real-life/

Russ added in the bill that judges could marry people....

and

Oddly, if the bill’s goal was to inhibit same-sex couples from getting married, it failed out of the gate. Troy Stevenson, head of the LGBT advocacy group Freedom Oklahoma, noted that Russ may not have realized that “there are … 160 members of clergy who have publicly declared their willingness to marry LGBT people,” and that several major Christian denominations already allow clergy to officiate same-sex marriages, many of which already have a presence in Oklahoma.

As pressure mounted on Russ to kill the legislation, however, something strange happened: instead of pulling the bill, Russ simply amended it, re-inserting a clause that allowed judges to officiate weddings. The change was initially welcomed by LGBT advocates such as Stevenson, but also caused confusion, because it defeated the bill’s aim of fully removing government officials from marriages services. In fact, without the clergy-only provision, some Democrats noted that the bill was arguably pro-LGBT, since it does not define marriage specifically as a union between a man and a woman, effectively re-affirming the legitimacy of same-sex unions in the state. Other lawmakers also pointed out that, since Russ’ bill requires the government to simply file marriage certificates, it removes the state’s ability to prevent instances bigamy or polygamy.

Russ called the arguments about bigamy and polygamy “absurd” because other laws prohibiting such unions are still on the books. But he cautiously agreed with those who say his bill doesn’t directly challenge marriage equality.

TNNurse

(6,927 posts)
7. Incredibly ignorant on their part.
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 08:13 AM
Mar 2015

Just want to add that I live in a state that does not establish common law marriages. It does recognize those that are established where they do with appropriate documentation. I have no idea what that documentation is supposed to be. I can tell you that it does not work well with health care decisions and birth certificates.....

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
9. I often wonder how Oklahoma became so completely controlled by fundamentalist Christianity.
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 08:50 AM
Mar 2015

Nuttiness appears to be the standard.

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