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Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 04:37 PM Mar 2015

Snowden refused to meet with Ponomarev??

The Russian lawmaker kicked out of the country speaks out about Putin, Snowden, and a Russian collapse

In President Vladimir Putin's quest to amass more power, the Russian government has become increasingly corrupt and ever more dangerous for critics and political activists.

Case in point — the suspicious murder of Putin opponent Boris Nemtsov as he walked home across a busy bridge in Moscow almost two weeks ago.

We recently sat down with Ilya Ponomarev — a representative in the lower house of the Russian parliament who has been barred from Russia for his opposition to Putin — and got his take on what's going on in Russia.

Ponomarev believes that the people who killed Nemtsov were affiliated with one of Russia's state security forces, and he says Nemtsov's murder was meant as a "message to Russian elites ... and a message to the West."

BI: Russia is obviously a surveillance state. That being said, America has its own conundrums: NSA phone tapping, Edward Snowden, CIA torture tapes. How is the United States different from Russia in this regard?

IP: I think that there are excesses that exist in all societies. I won't say it's normal to have them, but it's natural to have them. I'm watching very closely ... what Snowden has done. I don't know him personally. I wanted to talk to him, but all of the security people didn't allow me to. But I think that he took the wrong approach to a very right thing which he was doing. Just the implementation was wrong. There was a clear platform to what he was doing, although of course that there were some mistakes made.

http://www.businessinsider.com/ilya-ponomarev-interview-2015-3#ixzz3U1G8UbVq

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And just who *ARE* the "security people" controlling access to Snowden, I wonder?
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Snowden refused to meet with Ponomarev?? (Original Post) Blue_Tires Mar 2015 OP
Snowden himself, according to your thread title. stone space Mar 2015 #1
LOL n/t Oilwellian Mar 2015 #2
I made the natural assumption that Blue_Tires Mar 2015 #4
You can make the ASSumption, or you can ask the question. stone space Mar 2015 #6
If I'm wrong, or misreading the story, point out where... Blue_Tires Mar 2015 #7
Snowden has security people at his beck and call? backscatter712 Mar 2015 #8
Your thread title is not accurate. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #3
So if the thread title isn't accurate Blue_Tires Mar 2015 #5
You just have to read the words you pasted from the article muriel_volestrangler Mar 2015 #9
 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
1. Snowden himself, according to your thread title.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 04:47 PM
Mar 2015
And just who *ARE* the "security people" controlling access to Snowden, I wonder?

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
4. I made the natural assumption that
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 09:54 AM
Mar 2015

Snowden can tell his security people who to let through...If someone else controls these security people, who is it?

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
6. You can make the ASSumption, or you can ask the question.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 10:03 AM
Mar 2015

But doing both simultaneously in the same OP seems a little odd to me.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
5. So if the thread title isn't accurate
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 09:55 AM
Mar 2015

that means Snowden wanted to meet with a Russian dissident (for the first time) and his security prevented it? Is that where you're going with this?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,336 posts)
9. You just have to read the words you pasted from the article
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 11:30 AM
Mar 2015

It means the dissident wanted to meet Snowden, but the security people stopped him.

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