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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums'Oh, just secede already': Arizona House votes to ignore Obama executive orders
Source: Arizona Republic
... This afternoon, the Arizona House approved House Bill 2368, declaring that henceforth the sovereign state of Arizona will not enforce any executive orders issued by the president of the United States or any policy directives from the Department of Justice unless they are affirmed by Congress and signed into law.
... The bill, sponsored by none other than Rep. Bob Thorpe, R-Flagstaff, is one of a series of kooky measures aimed at declaring our independence from federal gun laws, from the Affordable Care Act, from the Environmental Protection Agency, from the Department of Justice, from Barack Obama and from just about anything else associated with the state's most detested f-word.
Federal, that is.
Apparently, House Bill 2368 isn't even controversial. The only one to speak about it on the House floor, was Rep. Bruce Wheeler, D-Tucson, who noted that presidents throughout our nation's history have used executive orders.
Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/story/laurieroberts/2015/03/10/hb2368-arizona-house-executive-orders/24728555/
marym625
(17,997 posts)Texas, Arizona, Georgia, Kentucky, Florida, they can all just go.
the_sly_pig
(741 posts)Mississippi, Louisiana, South Carolina, West Virginia, Virginia, Arkansas, Alabama and Oklahoma. Let James Inhofe run for the presiduncy of that group.
marym625
(17,997 posts)caballojm
(272 posts)I'm painfully aware of how dim-witted, corrupt, and infantile nearly all of our elected politicians are. I'm also aware that a fair majority of Arizona voters are as equally brainless. BUT - there are more of us than you think who are desperate to turn this steaming red pile of refuse into something respectable and blue. Don't give up on all of us!
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)You all get to stay.
Sorry you have to live with such insanity
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)..to other deserving States.
Fix your own damned highways..let the military pull out & deal with your lost revenue..live in your fenced off effin no mans land & when the Mexican Army invades your little country cuz they want their land back, don't call the US Fed govt to fight the battle for you Az, cuz you will hence belong to Mexico.
Deal with it.
Good Luck & Good Bye
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Also with Texas. Let them secede, then see Mexico's army take it back.
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)They can be both the ammunition and the propellant.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Thav
(946 posts)More like the drug cartels will take it over.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)7 military installations and the $100,000,000 in federal dollars of federal contracts?
Tomorrow, my letter goes off.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)They're all loose cannons who never think of consequences
freshwest
(53,661 posts)ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)lucky for AZ that there's a federal ACA exchange b/c the yahoos are in charge. If SCOTUS goes with the wacko repukes on ending fed subsidies, the ACA will be a thing of the past in AZ.
Too bad b/c it's a great state with those big mts. and wide open valleys.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Mesa was hit HARD. There is one problem though --
(Avoid East Mesa like the plague though if you do consider it)
Tempe is much, much better but one problem. Much more expensive to live there, Southeast Phoenix has affordable homes better area. South Phoenix & Tempe & other spots are where the liberal pockets are in Maricopa County.
GetTheRightVote
(5,287 posts)No one should be going along with Obama and his executive orders, he has gone way over the line with them. Life long Democrat but I do not wish to see this type of action continue under the next Republican President, think about it.
BainsBane
(53,066 posts)and look at executive orders throughout the past century. Obama's have gotten more news coverage, but his are neither more numerous or expansive than previous presidents. http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/disposition.html
the_sly_pig
(741 posts)Im pretty sure that this would not be happening if the president was another old white guy. I'm also pretty sure that old white guys that hold public office are doing everything they can to obstruct progress and sabotage Obama's presidency.
There is a reason we are a Union of States under an umbrella of a Federal government. No one gets to pick and choose what they like or dislike. They can, however, come up with a better solution and pass laws. The Arizona House has neither the courage nor the intelligence to think problems through.
It is law that a president can use executive orders. Anarchy results in individuals deciding which laws are important and which are not. Tacky and childish. The Arizona House is acting like a 4 year old.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)This is a very racist legislature, just look up how minority studies regarding universities & high schools. My own former State Senator wrote the bill SB 1070 (sponsored it, some other known racist actually wrote it)
Russell K. Pearce (born June 23, 1947) is an American politician and Republican former member of the Arizona State Senate. He rose to national prominence as the primary sponsor of Arizona SB1070, a controversial anti-illegal alien measure that was signed into law in 2010. He was elected President of the Arizona Senate when the Senate began its current term in January 2011, but then suffered a dramatic reversal of fortune when he was ousted in a November 2011 recall election, the first legislator in Arizona history to be so removed from office.[1] He served as Vice-Chair of the Arizona GOP, but in September 2014, he resigned the position after controversy over his recommendation of forced sterilization of poor women on Medicaid.[2]
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Controversy
Pearce faced criticism in 2006 after he called for the renewal of a 1950's immigration enforcement program, Operation Wetback, that deported or encouraged to deport 1.3 million illegal immigrants in less than a year. Hispanic groups said the use of the word wetback was derogatory.[24]
In October 2006, Pearce included the text of an article by National Alliance, a white separatist group, in an email to a group of supporters. The article, titled "Who Rules America"[25] contained allegations of Jewish control of the media and of multiculturalism being a Jewish anti-White conspiracy, as well as Holocaust denialism.[26] He quickly apologized to supporters in an email, stating: "Ugly the words contained in it really are. They are not mine and I disavow them completely. Worse still, the website links to a group whose politics are the ugliest imaginable."[26] Pearce told reporters he did not agree with the antisemitic and racist statements in the article, and that he had copied it from an email forwarded to him by someone else after "the title and the first paragraphs about media bias appealed to him".[26]
Pearce was also criticized for his association with white supremacist J. T. Ready.[27] Pearce endorsed Ready for Mesa City Council in 2006[28] and appeared with him at several rallies. In 2004 Pearce was photographed attending Ready's baptism into The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church). Church documents reveal that Pearce ordained Ready into the LDS priesthood.[29] Pearce has since claimed he was unaware of Ready's neo-Nazi affiliations at the time he made the endorsement.[30]
In April 2008, Pearce sponsored a measure, Senate Bill 1108, that would bar Arizonan public schools from teaching that "denigrate[s] American values and the teachings of Western civilization", and prohibit the formation of groups at public tertiary institutions "based in whole or part on the race of their membership". Pearce said he didn't want students indoctrinated with progressive ideologies. The Arizona Republic noted the measure could ban groups such as the Black Business Students Association at Arizona State University or Native Americans United at Northern Arizona University. Critics of the bill called it vague and predicted its implementation would have chilling effects.[31]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Pearce
This is where I live, in his district. He lost the recent midterm election to another Republican -- the only 2 options on the ballot
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Jason Todd "J. T." Ready (February 17, 1973[1][2] May 2, 2012) was a former American Marine, who had received a bad conduct discharge, founder and leader of a border militia group[3] and a former member of the neo-Nazi National Socialist Movement[4] who had sought the elected office of sheriff of Pinal County, Arizona.[5] On May 2, 2012, at Ready's home in Gilbert, Arizona, he shot and killed his girlfriend, her daughter and granddaughter, the daughter's fiancé and himself.[3][6]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._T._Ready
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)& claiming what he is doing is illegal. In your first post you claimed he was worse than Bush & now are claiming his executive orders are illegal. What you are claiming is not only wrong but complete bullshit.
Please climb back under whatever rock you came out from under.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Stellar
(5,644 posts)When ever I think to click on your name, your questions or talking points are always of the right-wing variety (I've only done it twice). What's up with that?
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)But the christo-fascists are working on it.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Please don't leave me alone with this state legislature
I have long called them a national laughing stock, especially if more was known of what they do. They know this too.
Arizona's idiot legislature doesn't want you to watch their idiocy
by Mother MagsFollow
I can understand why Republicans in the Arizona legislature would want to pass a bill like SB 1435. Here's the crucial change that the bill makes to the old language about open meetings:
"Meeting" means the gathering, in person or through technological devices, of a quorum of members of a public body at which they discuss, propose or take legal action, including any deliberations by a quorum with respect to such action IS TAKEN.
{underlined is struck out}
Got that? To comply with the state's open meeting law, and yet meet in secret, they've simply changed the definition of "meeting." No longer does it mean legislative committee hearings, school board meetings, or other public agency sessions where ideas, bills, budgets, and laws are debated and discussed and where the public can listen and speak. Now it only means those occasions where "action is taken." Goodie, we get to watch them vote.
They're not only denying the public the right to witness the deliberations of people we pay to make laws, they're denying people a voice in governance. If they limit the public only to meetings where elected officials take action, it's too late, that sausage has been made.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/02/12/1363955/-Arizona-s-idiot-legislature-doesn-t-want-you-to-watch-their-idiocy?detail=email