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http://www.politicususa.com/2015/03/09/iran-letter-backlash-grows-bernie-sanders-accuses-senate-republicans-sabotage.htmlIran Letter Backlash Grows As Bernie Sanders Accuses Senate Republicans Of Sabotage
By: Jason Easley
Monday, March, 9th, 2015, 6:29 pm
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) hit Senate Republicans right between the eyes by accusing them of an act sabotage in an attempt to start a new war in Iran.
In a statement, Sen. Sanders said:
Sen. Sanderss statement came after White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest accused Senate Republicans of trying to undermine President Obama, I think the other thing that is notable here is that when you have a letter that is signed by forty-seven senators of the same party being sent to a leader of a foreign country, it raises some legitimate questions about the intent of the letter Its surprising to me there are some Republican senators who are seeking to establish a backchannel with hardliners in Iran to undermine an agreement with Iran and the international community.
The Republicans have so grossly miscalculated the public reaction to their letter that even Irans Foreign Minister called it propaganda. Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif said, In our view, this letter has no legal value and is mostly a propaganda ploy. It is very interesting that while negotiations are still in progress and while no agreement has been reached, some political pressure groups are so afraid even of the prospect of an agreement that they resort to unconventional methods, unprecedented in diplomatic history.
The Senate Republican letter revealed how far they are willing to go in order to sabotage their own government. Republicans may have crossed the line into treasonous territory with their letter, but Sen. Sanders was correct. The letter was a definite act of sabotage.
Senate Republicans demonstrated that they were unwilling to support this president in foreign or domestic affairs. Republicans went far beyond having a difference of opinion with the president. They are now actively trying to jeopardize the foreign policy of their own country.
This sort of behavior is unprecedented in American history. Republicans are sabotaging their own country because they despise the president and are lusting for a new war in the Middle East. Republicans have once again brought shame to their country and embarrassed every American on the world stage. The Senate Republican saboteurs deserve to be punished.
Wounded Bear
(58,673 posts)a kennedy
(29,680 posts)kacekwl
(7,017 posts)Bernie Sanders is the only political voice I have heard condemning this crime.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)about speaking his mind, does it regularly and gets reelected because he says what a huge percentage of Americans, not just in his district, think.
I love him.
tecelote
(5,122 posts)He speaks his mind instead of that of corporate sponsors.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)amazing people in the Senate. Thank you everyone in Vermont that elects this man.
NoRWNJ
(33 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)We NEED to pile on and make our voices heard. this is completely outraceous. Can you imagine the response had every Dem Senator and member of leadership did this when GWB was beating the drums of war and trying to rev up international support? In this case Obama is trying to PREVENT another war.
Please call.
kacekwl
(7,017 posts)Where are the Democrats and sane Republicans demanding an investigation , removal from office , holding news conference after news conference making this known to everyone . We can hold investigations on e-mails, bengazzzzzieeeee endlessly but this is serious.
markmyword
(180 posts)These Republicans should be ARRESTED for TREASON!
I can't believe in the year 2015 that these men and women hate this president because he's an African American!
This Congress has undermined our President and invited a foreign leader to speak before the Congress WITHOUT the White House knowing and now they have written to a foreign leader with their own foreign policy plans!
This is TREASON!!!
You can't have a legislative body going around and making its own foreign policy without our President knowing it.
It's time for these CRAZY Republicans in the red states to secede from the United States and create their OWN country.
In the meantime, they should be ARRESTED for TREASON!!! And put in JAIL!!!!!!
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)spanone
(135,851 posts)Takket
(21,582 posts)"Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif said, In our view, this letter has no legal value and is mostly a propaganda ploy. It is very interesting that while negotiations are still in progress and while no agreement has been reached, some political pressure groups are so afraid even of the prospect of an agreement that they resort to unconventional methods, unprecedented in diplomatic history.
The voice of reason. The GOP effed up big time on this one. They are getting torched.
George II
(67,782 posts)DFW
(54,414 posts)Most insects have more common sense than Republican Senators.
CincyDem
(6,366 posts)Iran's foreign minister attended a competitive private secondary school in San Francisco, graduated from San Francisco State and went on to get a PhD in International Policy from the University of Denver.
I don't agree with their politics but for us to think they're a bunch of guys that hang around at night staring up at the stars wondering where the sun goes at night...that's a big mistake. While is it true that insects have more common sense than the Iranian 47, the way this post reads (in context of the thread) seems to make a bridge between the Iranian Foreign Minister and an insect. I hoping that's not how it was intended.
DFW
(54,414 posts)It was meant to imply that insects have more common sense than 47 of our Senators.
I was in college in the States in the 70s. The Iranian Students Association was large and active. Both their English and their familiarity with their host country were well honed.
That was my underlying assumption but, hey...what the heck...never hurts to check, eh?
And yes - you are right about the insects versus our Iranian 47. (Kind of like the Keating Five or the Chicago Seven).
Have a good one.
DFW
(54,414 posts)kacekwl
(7,017 posts)This is a crime and they will get away with it again. Talk about a scandal
Aerows
(39,961 posts)The MSM (Corporate Media) set this all in motion. They have empowered idiots that think they are the leaders of the United States while they work at undermining everything we stand for!
The talking heads we have are part of a deep, abiding problem we have. What happened in this instance, though, is that the GOP took them seriously, violated the Logan Act, and generally grabbed so much rope they decided to ... well, you know how it goes.
Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)those Republican Senators, who did NOT sign
the letter? It would be shorter than the other way
around. If my Senator signed it, I will write as well
as call to complain.
starroute
(12,977 posts)Lamar Alexander, Susan Collins, Bob Corker, Dan Coats, Jeff Flake, Lisa Murkowski, and Thad Cochran.
3catwoman3
(24,013 posts)...on occasion, the Republican senator from IL, Mark Kirk, does the right thing. Not this time.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)For starters.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)dealing with security and foreign affairs, and maybe more.
Hekate
(90,734 posts)I hope there is a backlash that will make the Fukushima tidal wave look like a ripple.
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)If Obama is able to negotiate a way to keep Iran from getting nukes, that would show the country that Republicans aren't better at foreign policy (even more so than now). It would show that the preferred repuvlican methodology of, essentially, waving its dick around doesn't produce results while diplomacy does - under a Democrat. It would be destructive to the republicans' image.
world wide wally
(21,748 posts)Cha
(297,375 posts)Follow
.@SenatorReid says Republicans refuse to accept that Obama, this man with the unusual name, was elected twice. http://bit.ly/1aXUHea
9:24 AM - 9 Mar 2015 81 Retweets 43 favorites
http://theobamadiary.com/2015/03/09/how-hate-can-lead-to-destruction/
Thank you, babylonsistah!
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)Gman
(24,780 posts)In fact it never crossed their minds. The only public they know is their blind followers in the right wing alternate reality.
calimary
(81,350 posts)We all should. Put them on defense. Make 'em deny it. Make 'em have to explain it and parse it and dance around it. And then hit 'em with it again.
And AGAIN. Do NOT play nice.
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kacekwl
(7,017 posts)their resignations on every news program across the U.S.
calimary
(81,350 posts)Glad you're here! I wouldn't miss a one of 'em. And you're correct - they should indeed tender their resignations. They won't. They think they're being both "right" and righteous. But that's absolutely what they should do.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)They know how that game is played, always attack and make them defend...and when they defend increase the attack.
Our leaders ether don't know the game or are too afraid to play it with winning in mind...and some may not want to win at all.
world wide wally
(21,748 posts)monmouth4
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monmouth4
(9,708 posts)kacekwl
(7,017 posts)the members of congress should join with the president on this action or it's just Obama getting all uppity again.
JanMichael
(24,890 posts)Wrong doesnt matter. They just run with it. perjury? Hell yes. Why can we not do that here? Maybe there is some law from 1917 that could be invoked???
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)stupidicus
(2,570 posts)that civility is way overrated, and nothing more these days -- and in many, many days long past --- than a safe harbor for rightwingnuts from being justifiably and properly called what they are in the public arena by people of intellect and far greater integrity.
I question whether shaming has lost all behavior modification value or whether there simply isn't and long hasn't been, enough of it coming from those it should be.
Caretha
(2,737 posts)Shaming...oh Fa. Where we messed up was not prosecuting the prior administration for all the treasons they committed. Unfortunately Nancy Pelosi and Obama took it off the table & "the look forward" rhetoric was the meme of the day. Bad Bad move.
This is where it has got us. Now we have a total of 47 Republicans tip toeing the line of treason, and orgasming for a 3rd world war.
We, the citizens must finally stand up. If you live in a state represented by any of these Republicans, go to google right now and find their DC or state phone numbers and tell them you see what they did, and that you call it TREASON and will tell all your neighbors. You will shout it from your roof tops, you will call all your family members and you will be the loudest voice around the water cooler tomorrow morning!
I've already called Tom Cotton from AR..his DC phone mail is already flooded but I was able to call a state office & leave a message.
NBachers
(17,126 posts)stupidicus
(2,570 posts)I also like the advice given by the other poster about using their fax --- that could get costlier.
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betsuni
(25,554 posts)gordianot
(15,242 posts)mcar
(42,337 posts)Moostache
(9,897 posts)I'm not trying to be hyperbolic with this...these sons of bitches have been sliding down the slippery slope to outright treason for years and I think they are there.
Imagine the outrage and rending of garments if a Democrat or god forbid President Obama did anything 1/1000th as blatant...
I got the rope...someone give them a trial and bring them to the nearest yardarm...
C_U_L8R
(45,004 posts)and frog march them to court.
No really... do it ! Now !
Rover1
(26 posts)Reagen pioneered this!
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)I encourage everyone else to do the same.
George II
(67,782 posts)...our Constitution, yet they overlook the part of the Constitution that THEY violated. How stupid can they be?
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)I would tell America that we are bringing back the draft.
Screw volunteer, fair is fair! Now let's see how much we want to go to war!
Indict these treasonous bastards! For some reason I'm actually pissed!
kacekwl
(7,017 posts)This is so blatant it is sickening.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)That seems more fair.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)"Republicans are . . . lusting for a new war in the Middle East."
That needs to be part of our message to voters in 2016.
3catwoman3
(24,013 posts)...anywhere near a Bush rally without the RWNJs howling about lack of respect for the president?
This is completely reprehensible.
niyad
(113,463 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)Thespian2
(2,741 posts)"Republican" should be enough to make any thinking American gag. There seems to be no end to how low these troglodytes will go. Isn't there some legal way to make these 47 pay for their treasonous letter? Oops. Forgot how the DoJ sees criminality.
dflprincess
(28,080 posts)Because, how it could possibly be good for the country if the system actually worked and real traitors were punished?
Better to just go after the whistleblowers.
Depaysement
(1,835 posts)Where are the Democrats? Cowering somewhere?
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)I agree but how do we do anything about this?
I signed the petition to the WH to prosecute them but I think that's a non-starter. How do we recall them?
kiranon
(1,727 posts)Let them all go to trial and prove they did not intend to undermine the U.S. Government their flag pins not withstanding
Vinca
(50,285 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Because he accused Senator Reid of being Cheneylike or, excuse me, reading from the Cheney book of political rhetoric (isn't that the same thing as "Cheneylike" for a similar missive.
nikto
(3,284 posts)But ofcourse, that wouldn't matter if the real goal
was to take Iran's oil in a war.
I just love it when ISIS is an important (i.e. useful) issue.
Until it's not.
samsingh
(17,599 posts)Chipper Chat
(9,682 posts)If the republicans get away with this what could stop then from just marching in to the White House and physically removing the first family and installing Boehner as President. Biden would be ignored and removed as VP What would the country "do" if this happened?
gordianot
(15,242 posts)There is a fury of protection surrounding the President that defies description even prior to recent Secret Service indiscretions. May no one have to see it unleashed. I would strongly make a wager that the Secret Service has over compensated on their past lapse in judgement.
To this day no one is quite sure what Truman had built below the White House.
C Moon
(12,216 posts)Joe Johns
(91 posts)Disgusting!
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)"The Republicans have so grossly miscalculated the public reaction to their letter that even Irans Foreign Minister called it propaganda."
What do you expect from idiots?
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Bastards
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)and I see nothing about what will happen next? So, what is the U.S. going to do? This is serious shit in my book.
Are we going to scold them, and tell them never to do this again? Slap them on the wrist? Spank their behinds and make then stand in the corner?
I certainly hope someone takes this serious, and throws the book at each and every one of these non patriotic assholes. Prison time would be fine by me. What a shameful and embarrassing representation of our government!!!
I am shocked. The GOP just keeps getting worse and worse. I hope people remember this next year.
Cosmocat
(14,566 posts)Since the early 90s,the democratic party has hid a corner - more and more so as time has gone by.
This is why the republicans are so bad, they have had absolutely NO pushback, outside of the the Iraq debacle ONLY AFTER it was clearly failed.
They have spent nearly a quarter century now saying and doing anythhing they want with no repercussions because democrats, frankly has lost any nerve or spin to fight against it.
This is THAT bad, clearly and unequivicably, and something that really can't be defended on even a marginally reasonable level.
Take the fight to them on this NOW, in a big way.
And, this means, if there is legitimate grounds, the Obama administration bringing these gapping assholess up on charges.
Gothmog
(145,374 posts)These 47 senators are idiots and traitors
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
riqster
(13,986 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Weren't we all sick of the fucking pukes a long time ago?
If I say any more, I'll get tombstoned....just let them get what they so richly deserve....
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)Yep!!! Minimum jail time.
This act was definitely over the line. To me, it just shows how much worse their racist hatred has become for the first black man in the White House.
Yep, putting 47 of these KOCH suckers behind bars is fine by me.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)And may the repercussions overflow onto the Kochs and the rest of the corporate "Titans".
samsingh
(17,599 posts)RVN VET
(492 posts)You know: Romney heartless reference to 47% of the voters who are moochers and, therefore, Obama supporters; 47% of the actual vote going to Romney; now 47% of the goddam Senate signing on to treason.
I'll leave the meaning of 47% to numerologists. What I know is that 47% of the American voters (47 in a hundred) thought even Romney, with his automobile elevator and draft dodging background, was a better choice for President than black man with a strange name. It means that 47 out of a hundred voters believe that 47 out of 100 voters (excusing themselves, of course) are black moochers. It also means that 47 out of 100 US senators think the US Constitution is toilet paper, and that Clinton's use of non-government e-mail is treasonous while, on the other hand, deliberately and overtly attempting to scuttle international negotiations regarding nuclear weaponry is just poking the black president in the eye.
I'm not surprised. Valerie Plame and her husband learned, years ago, that the GOP is nothing more than a nest of power and money grabbing traitors, loyal to nothing but their engorged bank accounts, and willing to make the entire nation suffer -- even to its destruction -- if it meant an extra buck in their wallets. A CIA Case Officer responsible for developing and maintaining a network of agents and informants on the ground in Iran to keep the US alert to that nation's nuclear program? Only the GOP would "out" such a person and ruin the work she had already accomplished, and jeopardize the lives of dozens of foreign informants who were, after all, only guilty of trying to help the US. "Out her" for what reason? Her husband wrote an honest and truthful attack on the GOP's lies about yellow cake uranium, Niger, and Saddam Hussein.
Take that, America! (Ironically, both Plame and Wilson were -- emphasis on past tense -- Republicans. But Republicans who simply did not notice the morphing of their Party into the treasonous Party of Cheney Bush, McConnell, and Boehner -- until it was too late.)
Sorry for the rant. It's difficult to maintain ones composure over issues like this. I feel like a kindergarten teacher might, walking into a classroom of monstrously spiteful 5 year olds (named McConnell, Cotton, etc.) who have wiped their feces on the newly whitewashed walls because teacher wouldn't give them an extra 5 minutes of recess.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Efilroft Sul
(3,579 posts)This is not an unprecedented act by the GOP. Not if you consider what the Nixon and Reagan campaigns were doing behind the backs of the Johnson and Carter administrations in 1968 and 1980.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)all Norfolk need do is sign this letter and treason would have been committed
we have 47 senators now who have openly committed treason they should be charged as such and hung. or beheaded. (as the movie Elizabeth put it)
deutsey
(20,166 posts)and sent envoys to meet secretly with Iranian mullahs. Toss in a few illegal arms deals to sweeten the pot.
sanatanadharma
(3,707 posts)What to make of these Republicans essentially telling the world that the USA can not be trusted and that this country may reverse any international agreement if the next elected officials are as duplicitous and unscrupulous as these 47 republiCON Jane Fonda wannabes.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)GET EM!