The Hill: "Warren Wing hits back". The old "liberals need to tone it down" meme. Deja Vu.
This is so reminiscent of the attacks on those of us who were Dean supporters in 2003. Deja vu.
I went the route then of being called fringe anti-war activists, noisy liberals, and more.
Not going peacefully down that road again. I am not going to be used and put aside that way again.
Warren wing hits back
TOMORROW STARTS TONIGHT: WARREN-WING V. PRAGMATIC PROGRESSIVES. You already know because this morning your hometown newspaper reported that moderate Democrats are pushing back against Sen. Elizabeth Warren's (D-Mass.) populist political rhetoric, fearing it'll be disastrous in the 2016 cycle. Even Howard Dean, founder of the liberal Democracy For America, told me that Warren is "right on policy, but the rhetoric needs to be toned down... The rhetoric about wealth creation needs to be scaled back because Americans like wealth creation... Our program cannot be soak the rich. That's a mistake and alienates middle class people."
It's Dean -- who is backing Hillary Clinton for president while DFA tries to draft Warren into the race -- whose comments particularly fired-up Warren-wingers:
-- Robert Borosage, co-director of the progressive Campaign For America's Future: "They're trying to re-write what happened in the last election... That's hilarious and pathetic... The notion that there's a tension between talking about how the rules are rigged and economic growth and that you have to choose between them is wrong both intellectually and politically... Howard Dean is wrong on the facts... People feel like the rich are getting away with murder and the rich aren't paying their fair share. That's the first thing people want to hear from politicians."
Meanwhile...
-- BILLIONAIRE INVESTOR WARREN BUFFETT on CNBC's "Squawk Box" this morning: "She would do better if she was less angry and demonized less... I believe in hate the sin but love the sinner. I also believe in praising by name and criticizing by category and I'm not sure that I've totally convinced Elizabeth Warren that's the way to go... It's a mistake to get angry with people that disagree with you. In the end, we do have to work together." My recap on Buffett: http://bit.ly/1wM5kVV
THIS IS OVERNIGHT FINANCE, and you can expect the centrists versus Warren fight to intensify as President Obama pushes Democrats to help him secure new trade deals.
Sure the media is picking on these disagreements. I can not blame them. If our party wants to stop this sensationalist media approach, then let them embrace their left, their liberals, their anti-war.
Of course the media does this. It works. Dean and Buffett are playing right into their hands.
Not going to be called silly names again by anyone in our party.
The saddest part is that there is ample proof that the marginalization of liberals was done deliberately and coldly in a planned way.
In their own words. An "intellectual buyout" of the Democratic Party.
Rob Shapiro, the DLC VP at the time, and a Clinton advisor, spoke clearly about their purpose.
What we've done in the Democratic Party," explains institute Vice President Rob Shapiro, a Clinton economic adviser, "is an intellectual leveraged buyout." The DLC, presumably, is acting as arbitrageur, selling off unprofitable mind-sets to produce a lean and efficient philosophy for the "New Democrat," as DLCers call their slick bimonthly magazine.
Can't blame the media for exploiting that.
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They don't listen if you are an outsider. And if you are an insider you don't criticize other insiders.
Larry Summers and liberals, a whole other story.
I am sensible, moderate, reasonable. Tired of being said to be otherwise.
That always made me chuckle. 
Glad you've been stickin' around, madfloridian.
I would put the woodchuck pic up but that would be not so nice of me.
On 2nd thought:
And I fixed my really dumb typo.
I am surprised you didn't give me a big fat F for that. 
I'm probably getting just a little to old to be posting on the Internet.
I do my best work in person.
I have managed to raise two wonderful very liberal children, and helped steer the minds of three awesome grandchildren.
I hope I have helped to equip them for the challenges ahead.
In solidarity ... 
You're never too old to be posting on the internet. 
ideals. Here. On DU. 
The disdain for the people who are actually fighting for the principles DU is supposed to be in favor of is mind boggling.
As I just said elsewhere... My feeling is that if you're being pragmatic, you're not being progressive. And those who piss on the ones who actually are progressive and liberal, who actually still believe in what the Dem Party is supposed to stand for, are just helping the right wing and ruining the Dem Party by pushing it farther and farther to the right.
it worked for them before and they believe it will work again.
Funny how all the RW talking points flaying Elizabeth Warren came out at the same time. Even Duer's here seem to have gotten their memes at the same time. They really believe us fools.
Yes, too many in the party do think of us as fools. There is so much condescension in their words.
Thanks for the quote. Have enjoyed your posts lately.
And thank you, with grandkids in public school your posts are particularly meaningful to me.
As a reward for their centrism, before they die, they will see
their children struggle, in poverty and powerlessness.
Maybe that's an OK fate, for them.
But so will everyone else's children suffer (except the top 1%).
IMO, it ain't that difficult to understand.
The failure is a moral one.
never gets tired. Love it.
