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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 01:32 PM Mar 2015

O’Reilly’s trouble deepens: A Kennedy tall tale that could unravel Fox News’ bully - By Joan Walsh

His Kennedy assassination lie is proven by a recording of O'Reilly himself. Why Fox's strategy may suddenly change

JOAN WALSH


Writers and advocates on the left have long catalogued the exaggerations, meltdowns and many stumbles of Fox’s Bill O’Reilly, to show that the guy who runs the No-Spin Zone is frequently unfair and relentlessly unbalanced. But now O’Reilly has a different sort of watchdog in CNN media reporter Brian Stelter, host of “Reliable Sources” – and Stelter is attracting more company.

Oh sure, the Fox bully dismisses Stelter — along with his critics at Mother Jones, Media Matters and for that matter Salon — as just another left winger out to get him. But that charge won’t stick. The bright, earnest, hardworking former New York Times reporter isn’t known for his ideological crusading; he goes after MSNBC, not just Fox. But when Stelter finds an important story, he digs in.

The CNN host just spent his second straight Sunday on the O’Reilly mess, this time advancing the story about what has become the most damning and incontestable charge against the Fox host: that he lied about personally hearing the suicide of a mysterious friend of Kennedy assassin Lee Harvey Oswald, in Palm Beach, FL back in 1977, just as congressional investigators were closing in on the source. O’Reilly told the lie in his book “Killing Kennedy” as well as on the air at Fox.

In his book, O’Reilly wrote of tracking George De Mohrenschildt, who’d lived in Minsk and became friends with Oswald and his wife Marina in Dallas, after they returned from a stay in the Russian city. Kennedy assassination researchers believe De Mohrenschildt was a CIA asset, and he’s implicated in of a lot of theories about the real motive for Kennedy’s murder. O’Reilly doesn’t dig into that story, but he tells a dramatic tale of his search for the Oswald associate:

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Go get him Joan! misterhighwasted Mar 2015 #1
Next, put Rush in the bull's eye duhneece Mar 2015 #41
indeed. "truth" is like bleach to the shitstain Rush Limpballs misterhighwasted Mar 2015 #42
Keep going after the Lying Bastard! TerrapinFlyer Mar 2015 #2
I agree...he needs to be off the air...! nt Stuart G Mar 2015 #3
Welcome to DU, TerrapinFlyer! calimary Mar 2015 #29
Kick and Rec all O'Reilly threads. Kingofalldems Mar 2015 #4
Over due. daleanime Mar 2015 #5
K&R chervilant Mar 2015 #6
and the peasants rejoice! nt abakan Mar 2015 #7
Bottom line: His audience is full of fools who don't give a crap CanonRay Mar 2015 #8
I don't see other media outlets "breathlessly" harping on O'Reilly like they did Williams. jalan48 Mar 2015 #9
Everyone knows that Bill O' the Clown and Fox lie all day everyday! Dustlawyer Mar 2015 #10
A new Fairness Doctrine? mountain grammy Mar 2015 #19
NOW can other news organizations stop considering FOX "News" to be legit? Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2015 #11
Wasn't there recently a meeting/briefing/? at the White House truebluegreen Mar 2015 #14
"Rupert's Churnalists". Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2015 #28
Perfect! truebluegreen Mar 2015 #31
O' Lielly is history malaise Mar 2015 #12
GOOD. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2015 #13
OMFG, your signature gif is freaking hilarious. PeaceNikki Mar 2015 #16
Way to go Joan ! yesphan Mar 2015 #15
K&R uhnope Mar 2015 #17
Fine, the Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic, at the time JHB Mar 2015 #21
Faux News will shrug this off. AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #18
You are correct, AtomicKitten nikto Mar 2015 #33
I would like to see all links to Murdoch owned 'news' sites banned from DU. Kingofalldems Mar 2015 #20
K and R. nt cwydro Mar 2015 #22
Seems to me all these revelations will just increase his audience. Kablooie Mar 2015 #23
The people that like him don't care DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #24
I find the idea that Fox cares Egnever Mar 2015 #25
This is great, but can we all admit that O'Lielly ain't goin' nowhere? In fact, his ratings will... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2015 #26
It just fattens up fox "news'" resume of in-house Liars.. who knew B'OR's big arrogant mouth would Cha Mar 2015 #39
We better quit it Cha, or we'll be getting a visit from Fox security. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2015 #45
BWAHAHAH! Helen Borg Mar 2015 #27
O'Reilly aint goin nowhere randr Mar 2015 #30
My thoughts exactly... They LIKE THIS... SomethingFishy Mar 2015 #36
Right.. but it sure puts ol BO'R on the Defensive.. LOL Cha Mar 2015 #40
After watching all this play out, I just have to say: truebluegreen Mar 2015 #32
now faux calls itself NEWS BY FOX NEWS on the certainot Mar 2015 #34
wouldn't oreilly's account be used in the investigation of the 'suicide', certainot Mar 2015 #35
All of FOX Noise is a lie SHRED Mar 2015 #37
Brave to Joan and CNN media reporter Brian Stelter(although, after he's through with BO'R he Cha Mar 2015 #38
Bill O'Reilly could say he was on the Lunar Lander yuiyoshida Mar 2015 #43
George DeMohrenschildt was friends with both Lee Harvey Oswald and George H.W. Bush. Octafish Mar 2015 #44

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
41. Next, put Rush in the bull's eye
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 09:39 AM
Mar 2015

Please, God, let David Corn and all the REAL journalists explore Rush's trip to a sex tourist site, full of desperate folks, with Rush taking Viagra...then explore everything Rush has said, done. Take him out (with truth, not bullets)!

calimary

(81,267 posts)
29. Welcome to DU, TerrapinFlyer!
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 07:23 PM
Mar 2015

Glad you're here! YES. Don't let up, anybody! Whittle him down! Bit by bit!

But I wouldn't confine it to him. I want limbaugh off the air, too.

CanonRay

(14,101 posts)
8. Bottom line: His audience is full of fools who don't give a crap
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 02:50 PM
Mar 2015

and he makes money for Fox, so that's that. Sad but true.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
10. Everyone knows that Bill O' the Clown and Fox lie all day everyday!
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 03:10 PM
Mar 2015

Fox even has a Court of Appeals case that says they can lie because they are "Entertainment", not news. They misstate almost every story to some degree to give their propaganda the right slant.

This situation can only be cured by the FCC stepping in and busting up the six media conglomerates and going back to the old requirement of a set amount of time per day airing the "news," not entertainment!

Not holding my breath on that one since the corporations like to spout propaganda instead of the truth!

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
11. NOW can other news organizations stop considering FOX "News" to be legit?
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 03:12 PM
Mar 2015

BTW: Bill's attack dog Jessie (When did you stop beating your wife?) Waters should lose his press credentials too.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
14. Wasn't there recently a meeting/briefing/? at the White House
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 03:41 PM
Mar 2015

where the guests were identified as being from ABC News, CBS News, NBC News, etc.... and "Fox." Not "Fox News," just "Fox" (Shep Smith (?) was complaining about it). So maybe we are closing in on re-branding them. Maybe next time they can just label them "Fox Entertainment."

JHB

(37,160 posts)
21. Fine, the Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic, at the time
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:05 PM
Mar 2015

Still the "Rooskies" that deep in the Cold War. It's not as if it had much independence from Moscow.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
18. Faux News will shrug this off.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:00 PM
Mar 2015

Nothing will happen to O'Liely; in fact, I suspect the loons will circle the wagons around him.

Faux News doesn't play by the same rules that they insist on imposing on the rest of the MSM.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
33. You are correct, AtomicKitten
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 07:44 PM
Mar 2015

That's the world we live in.

I have no delusions that O'Reilly will pay any real price for this.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
23. Seems to me all these revelations will just increase his audience.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:06 PM
Mar 2015

He's not a news reporter, he's a news opinion commentator so inaccuracies really aren't of much importance.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
24. The people that like him don't care
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:08 PM
Mar 2015

The same way that the people who liked Rush didn't care he was a drug addict.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
26. This is great, but can we all admit that O'Lielly ain't goin' nowhere? In fact, his ratings will...
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:18 PM
Mar 2015

probably go through the roof. That's the benefit of being a huge liar, you can lie and/or bully your way out of anything.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
39. It just fattens up fox "news'" resume of in-house Liars.. who knew B'OR's big arrogant mouth would
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:56 AM
Mar 2015

be his own petard? Roflmao!

Tarheel

randr

(12,412 posts)
30. O'Reilly aint goin nowhere
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 07:29 PM
Mar 2015

Over at Faux lying is a virtue.
He will get some sort of accommodation and wear it like a military ribbon.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
36. My thoughts exactly... They LIKE THIS...
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 10:16 PM
Mar 2015

O'Reilly's been lying for decades, they hired him just for this reason. They knew he had no morals and no qualms about lying right on the air.

It's a goddamn requirement at Fox.

I remember seeing Shepard Smith in N.O. during Katrina, while the studio hacks were sitting there blaming liberals and attacking "looters&quot just the black ones) Smith was yelling at them on the air something to the effect of "How can you do this? This isn't a Fox news partisan story, this isn't about right or left, there are dead Americans floating by me and you want to sit there and make it a political issue"?

It seas the only time I ever saw a Fox News reporter tell the actual truth, I actually thought he would get fired over it...

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
34. now faux calls itself NEWS BY FOX NEWS on the
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 10:10 PM
Mar 2015

streaming site i use once in a while. i gues one NEWS isn't enough anymore

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
35. wouldn't oreilly's account be used in the investigation of the 'suicide',
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 10:15 PM
Mar 2015

maybe to bolster the conclusion that it was a suicide?

i wonder how long oreilly's been used as a patsy by .... well....

Cha

(297,240 posts)
38. Brave to Joan and CNN media reporter Brian Stelter(although, after he's through with BO'R he
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:48 AM
Mar 2015

might want to shine the light on cnn)!

Mahalo DV.. The "Lies" go waaay back.. of course they do.. BO'R has been getting away with it for a loooooooooooong time.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
43. Bill O'Reilly could say he was on the Lunar Lander
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 11:49 AM
Mar 2015

On the Moon with Neil Armstrong, and would still keep his job. Fox News doesn't care about Liars.. they already fought that battle and won. They are under no obligation to tell the truth what so ever.

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