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Omaha Steve

(99,632 posts) Mon Mar 2, 2015, 08:27 AM Mar 2015

DU a poll: Where do you stand on the proposed right-to-work legislation? (link added)

http://fox6now.com/2015/03/01/right-to-work-legislation-heads-to-the-assembly-public-hearing-set-for-monday-morning/

I voted oppose.

At the bottom of the story: Where do you stand on the proposed right-to-work legislation?

Currently: I oppose right-to-work 56.01% (3,804 votes)

I support right-to-work 43.99% (2,988 votes)

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DU a poll: Where do you stand on the proposed right-to-work legislation? (link added) (Original Post) Omaha Steve Mar 2015 OP

And if you asked the 43.99% why they're in favor, they'll probably say Vinca Mar 2015 #1

People fall to false arguments but people also hate mandates. HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #3

Done, thanks Steve! Scuba Mar 2015 #2

Done! B Calm Mar 2015 #4

On its throat. Thor_MN Mar 2015 #5

I vote NO! on Right to Work for Less. TexasProgresive Mar 2015 #6

Vinca

(50,271 posts)

1. And if you asked the 43.99% why they're in favor, they'll probably say

Reply to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 08:32 AM

Mar 2015

"Well, I wanna work." The success of this legislation is all in the name. Who doesn't want to work? I wish there was a way unions could demonstrate the point of opposing "right to work" by negotiating contracts for union members only. When one guy is making $25 an hour and the "right to worker" next to him is making $8, it would suddenly occur to them why union membership matters.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)

3. People fall to false arguments but people also hate mandates.

Reply to Vinca (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 08:53 AM

Mar 2015

And some of the success of rtw is libertarian rejection of the mandate of fair-share.

I'm pro-union, had a father who was an officer in an Illinois trade union, and a brother who was a steward as PATCO went on strike...

With regard to multiple pay schedules for similar or identical work, I've worked inside of 'closed shops' where the union itself created circumstances where there were 2 tiers of pay increase schedules and benefits, with new hirers taking the brunt of 'adjustment' to economic circumstances.

When I worked for the state of WI there actually were represented union workers and non-represented workers working side-by-side, and while they had differences in pay, the real gap was their benefits were widely different.

Unions aren't always perfect. They don't solve every problem. But without unions that are simultaneously backed by a strong political party, workers lives will be made miserable.

The great problem in the USA is that unions have been largely abandoned by political parties, and life is becoming increasingly miserable