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On Wednesday, Pat Robertson spent time on The 700 Club telling NASA not to waste money going to Mars or searching for life beyond Earth. Why? Well because in Robertsons non-expert opinion theres nothing out there in space besides barren rocks and gaseous balls.
This planet is where God has got an experiment in what he wants to have accomplished, Robertson stated. But somehow, people want to spend a lot of money to go to Mars! I dont want to think that Mars is someplace I want to visit, and it would take a lot of money to get there!
One could roll their eyes at this rhetoric and dismiss it as Robertsons typical bombastic and close-minded blather. But his NASA is too expensive thoughts are shared by politicians who hold the purse strings.
This line of thought displays not only a lack of imagination, but also a lack of understanding of Earths finite resources. This sort of limited scope of ideas also stifles innovation and scientific discovery. Space travel is responsible for so many incredible technologies that we use today, which NASA has helpfully enumerated here.
http://www.salon.com/2015/02/25/pat_robertson_to_nasa_dont_explore_mars_earth_is_gods_experiment_with_life/
Sorry if already posted but felt it was too good to pass up. While I doubt there is much on Mars -- http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=2986 remember signs of life could even include bacteria and while I don't keep up with this, I believe it was proven bacteria could survive in outer space & I think we discovered some well preserved frozen evidence in Antarctica, something to do with nitrogen & ammonia but something to do with maybe we came from outer space.
What I did want to point out is there are more exoplanets than people on earth so I say the odds are quite good, the question that wonders me is if there is any intelligent life out there. I do know it isn't helpful to check w/ or assert based on the opinions of people from thousands of years ago unless Joseph Smith counts as a prophet.
trueblue2007
(17,234 posts)Robberman and I'm a Christian. I think he is an evil man.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)LOL I mean if you believe in God why not an alien God?
rpannier
(24,333 posts)and Earth was just practice?
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)this place has always felt like a prototype to me.
Gore1FL
(21,151 posts)Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)It is too bad this huckster touches so many lives.
Frank Cannon
(7,570 posts)I can't decide which one better describes Pat Robertson's head.
rpannier
(24,333 posts)He's afraid we'll find other life and squash the far reich x-tians, "We're God's only creation" belief
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)we're the only possible creations worth anything on the only possible planet worth anything. Aren't we special!
newfie11
(8,159 posts)Preferably in another universe!
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)And aliens are gonna come milk us when the time is ripe?
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)eom
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)This planet is where God has got an experiment in what he wants to have accomplished,
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)BigDemVoter
(4,154 posts)And I spit coffee all over my keyboard. . . . Thanks!
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)it is to sit around and write all these stupid ass talking points for Pat Robertson. They get wackier every day.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)My source is his then-fellow Republican, Pete McCloskey:
2nd Lt. Pat Robertson DESERTER
The unctuous TV preacher Marion Pat Robertson once was a US Marine officer when he got the call that maybe his life was too important to risk on the battlefield.
During the fighting in Korea, Pat Robertson was a second lieutenant leading a platoon of US Marines heading for action in 1951 when he decided to call his daddy, then a very, very conservative and Democratic Senator from Virginia, to get him pulled off his troop transport ASAFP.
Robertson told the other officers he would be saying Sayonara! when the transport ship pulled into Yokohama, its final stop before Korea. The other officers thought Pat Robertson was joking, but when the ship shoved off, there was Pat (and another 2nd lieutenant, apparently for cover) on the dock, waving bye-bye.
Most of the officers and Marines went on to get wounded and killed. PTL, at least a couple remember the Truth.
The story was repeated in 1988 when Robertson ran for president as a Combat Veteran. The source of the story was Pete McCloskey (R-Calif.), one of the surviving USMC officers who was on the transport and witnessed seeing Pat wave buh-bye from the dock.
Here's a great resource on the subject:
THE LIQUOR OFFICER
Or PAT ROBERTSON GOES TO WAR
Excerpt...
Former GOP congressman Pete McCloskey of California, who served in the same unit as Robertson, claimed that Robertson had relied on his father's influence to get him out of combat duty. Robertson was so rankled by the charge that he sued McCloskey and Representative Andy Jacobs, an Indiana Democrat who also circulated the charges, for $35 million.
McCloskey insisted that Robertson was on a ship headed for combat until his father used his influence to have him removed. According to McCloskey, Robertson later boasted that he had used his father to "get him out of combat duty."
The libel suit turned out to be an embarrassment to Robertson. During depositions, Paul Brosman, Jr., a retired university professor who served with Robertson in Korea, backed up McCloskey's claim and went even further, asserting that the televangelist had consorted with prostitutes and had sexually harassed a Korean cleaning girl who worked in the barracks. Brosman's deposition asserted that Robertson once feared he had contracted gonorrhea from a prostitute and was "very relieved" when he discovered the problem was a urinary tract infection. Brosman added that he had never personally seen Robertson with a prostitute and said some of his remarks were based on "scuttlebutt" he heard from others.
The trial also established that Robertson's father did indeed send a number of letters about his son, on Senate stationery, to Marine officials. In one the elder Robertson expressed concern that his son had not been adequately trained to be a combat officer.
CONTINUED...
http://www.schlatter.org/liquor.htm
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)regarding Skull & Bones and what the big secret is. I can't really find anything except that it is a secret & Prescott Bush may have grave robbed Geronimo's skull.
I was just thinking of how ill I'm becoming listening to Kerry speak regarding Ukraine, embracing & portraying them in honorable light while blaming everything on Putin.
An off-the-cuff remark by US Secretary of State John Kerry has snowballed into an international effort to seek a peaceful resolution to the chemical weapons dilemma in Syria.
Here's how the plan gained momentum:
Last week
Russian President Vladimir Putin offers to help negotiate a solution to the Syrian crisis at the G20 meeting in St. Petersburg.
Monday morning [US east coast]
Mr Kerry, when asked in London what Dr Assad could do to avert military action, says: "Turn it over, all of it, without delay and allow a full and total accounting for that," referring to Syria's chemical weapon stockpile.
"But he isn't about to do it and it can't be done."
Soon after
State Department issues clarification: "Secretary Kerry was making a rhetorical argument about the impossibility and unlikelihood of Assad turning over chemical weapons".
"His [Kerry's[ point was that this brutal dictator with a history of playing fast and loose with the facts cannot be trusted to turn over chemical weapons, otherwise he would have done so long ago. That's why the world faces this moment."
Within the next hour or so
Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov: "We are calling on the Syrian authorities not only agree on putting chemical weapons storages under international control, but also for its further destruction and then joining the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons," Mr Lavrov said.
"We have passed our offer to [Syrian Foreign Minister] Walid al-Muallem and hope to receive a fast and positive answer," he added.
Soon after
Syrian Forreign Minister Walid al-Muallem: "The Syrian Arab republic welcomes the Russian initiative, motivated by the concerns of the Russian leadership for the lives of our citizens and the security of our country," he said, according to Russia's Interfax news agency.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/25/secretary-state-john-kerry-meets-pakistani-army-ch/
Regarding the swift boating & differences between Bush, his early activism, & early Senate career I didn't know what to think & the only person I remember asking him was yelling "Don't taze me bro!" during his answer. I downplayed the link but their certain direction & rhetoric is the similar but he's good at it. Bush should have appointed him rather than Condi Rice. I don't focus too much on Kerry though.
Obama's chief economic advisor -- Skull & Bones. A recent judge -- skull & bones. He made a decision not to release Osama's death photos & while I'd feel a conspiracy to fake Osama's death would be really hard for me to believe, the government certainly behaved like they did. The burial at sea -- WTF? Still, I give them the benefit of doubt and say it was a bad judgment call.
A lot of bankers, disturbing number of judges, & sports figures. 2 Republican speech writers.
Pre 50s is troubling, several CIA personnel right when the CIA started up -- one of those William Sloane who became disillusioned with the CIA very early on & became a peace activist later in life (I felt Kerry was more like this but I still don't know if it is a harmless frat that keeps silly secret or what)
Numerous Secretaries of an Armed Forces branch.
As well as Prescott Bush and if I'm not mistaken, wasn't he behind the business plot? He happened to be a Wall Street banker during a confirmed historical even -- The Business Plot.
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Regarding Korea, I can't remember the reason why he didn't go with his unit in Korea -- some reason they kept him back. Told me his entire unit died in Korea.
sendero
(28,552 posts)... he "allowed" Pat Robertson. Seems like the bar is pretty low.
tanyev
(42,597 posts)OK, Pat. Whatever.
Vinca
(50,301 posts)stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)There is Greed though. Oh, yes, there's Greed as they worship Mammon.
C_U_L8R
(45,014 posts)to be free of any sort of intelligence.
rurallib
(62,434 posts)all of his bogus money machines hidden under tax exempt church laws.
You all know - his diamond mines or gold mines or whatever he has in Africa plus all the ways he has to take every last dollar from aunt Minnie.
MineralMan
(146,324 posts)"I don't know you. Now, step onto the slide to the right. Bye!"
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)And if there really was a God, he'd strike that old coot with lightening for doing so.
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)what the space program has done for us Earthlings
List:
http://kearth101.cbslocal.com/2011/07/21/list-stuff-we-use-everyday-that-was-invented-from-the-space-program/
Not to mention the invention of Velcro...an older person's best friend
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Remember that, in 2012, God told Pat Robertson that Romney would win. A year or so later, God told him that Obama would resign in 2014.
If this record is any indication, Robertson's latest divine revelation means that the Zontarean embassy ship has just come out of hyperspace and will be here in a week or two.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Some are going to be more surprised that others. Pat is one of those who will be surprised and shocked. He is so narrow.
Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)Even worse than creating all the oceans to hold one single plankton.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)... can only ignore the prayers of one species at a time.
Oktober
(1,488 posts)... if only to prove this wackadoodle wrong.
Lordy but that would be satisfying...
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)then miss the last shuttle home.
Initech
(100,097 posts)Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)Seems logical.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)were capable of imagining infinity, even multiple universes.
Not one of them is capable of imagining the extent of this senile old turd's ignorance and stupidity. Not Einstein, not Hawking, not Sagan, not Witten. Some things are beyond even genius.
As Einstein observed, the difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits.