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JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 04:50 AM Feb 2015

Pat Robertson says aliens are impossible because God just wouldn’t allow it

Last edited Sat Feb 28, 2015, 05:24 AM - Edit history (1)

On Wednesday, Pat Robertson spent time on “The 700 Club” telling NASA not to waste money going to Mars or searching for life beyond Earth. Why? Well because in Robertson’s non-expert opinion there’s nothing out there in space besides “barren rocks” and “gaseous balls.”

“This planet is where God has got an experiment in what he wants to have accomplished,” Robertson stated. “But somehow, people want to spend a lot of money to go to Mars! I don’t want to think that Mars is someplace I want to visit, and it would take a lot of money to get there!”

One could roll their eyes at this rhetoric and dismiss it as Robertson’s typical bombastic and close-minded blather. But his “NASA is too expensive” thoughts are shared by politicians who hold the purse strings.

This line of thought displays not only a lack of imagination, but also a lack of understanding of Earth’s finite resources. This sort of limited scope of ideas also stifles innovation and scientific discovery. Space travel is responsible for so many incredible technologies that we use today, which NASA has helpfully enumerated here.

http://www.salon.com/2015/02/25/pat_robertson_to_nasa_dont_explore_mars_earth_is_gods_experiment_with_life/

Sorry if already posted but felt it was too good to pass up. While I doubt there is much on Mars -- http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=2986 remember signs of life could even include bacteria and while I don't keep up with this, I believe it was proven bacteria could survive in outer space & I think we discovered some well preserved frozen evidence in Antarctica, something to do with nitrogen & ammonia but something to do with maybe we came from outer space.

What I did want to point out is there are more exoplanets than people on earth so I say the odds are quite good, the question that wonders me is if there is any intelligent life out there. I do know it isn't helpful to check w/ or assert based on the opinions of people from thousands of years ago unless Joseph Smith counts as a prophet.

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Pat Robertson says aliens are impossible because God just wouldn’t allow it (Original Post) JonLP24 Feb 2015 OP
I can't stand Pat Robertson trueblue2007 Feb 2015 #1
What if God is an alien? Kalidurga Feb 2015 #2
What if Aliens are God's Chosen People rpannier Feb 2015 #6
Makes sense to me Kalidurga Feb 2015 #8
The aliens are moral beings and killed God. n/t Gore1FL Feb 2015 #3
Pat Robinson is an argument against there being intelligent life on Earth. Half-Century Man Feb 2015 #4
"Barren rocks" and "gaseous balls". Frank Cannon Feb 2015 #5
The real reason is rpannier Feb 2015 #7
That is it - LiberalElite Feb 2015 #35
If any Aliens are reading this newfie11 Feb 2015 #9
What if we are just cows? Helen Borg Feb 2015 #10
What an idiot Android3.14 Feb 2015 #11
“This planet is where God has got an experiment in Ichingcarpenter Feb 2015 #12
Exactly what an alien advance scout would say. I wonder if his ship crashed? n/t jtuck004 Feb 2015 #13
I saw this title BigDemVoter Feb 2015 #14
If god allowed Pat Robertson then anything is possible. hobbit709 Feb 2015 #15
I'd like to know whose job octoberlib Feb 2015 #16
Pat Robertson is a drunken coward. Octafish Feb 2015 #17
There was a question I wanted to ask regarding if you have information JonLP24 Feb 2015 #24
I dunno... sendero Feb 2015 #18
So God 'allows' mass murders, terrorist attacks, and natural disasters....but not aliens. tanyev Feb 2015 #19
Pssst . . . Pat . . . the barren rocks are here on earth. Vinca Feb 2015 #20
So very little creativity and imagination within most right-wingers fearful little minds. stillwaiting Feb 2015 #21
God blessed Pat Robertson C_U_L8R Feb 2015 #22
methinks old Pat is concerned that maybe the gummint will tax rurallib Feb 2015 #23
Mythical God to Pat Robertson: MineralMan Feb 2015 #25
Yes… Here's another message assuring what knowledge God wants to pass on... MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #26
If Pat really knew God, I don't think he would be so arrogant as to speak for him. notadmblnd Feb 2015 #27
I wonder if he realizes pipi_k Feb 2015 #28
God has a somewhat juvenile sense of humor, as shown by His messing with Pat Robertson Jim Lane Feb 2015 #29
We are all going to be surprised when we 'move on' i.e. die. oldandhappy Feb 2015 #30
Seems like an awful lot of space for our small species. Liberal Veteran Feb 2015 #31
Because an eternal being of infinite power.... Motown_Johnny Feb 2015 #32
All the more reason to look.... Oktober Feb 2015 #33
I'd love for Pat to visit Mars - get lost and LiberalElite Feb 2015 #34
Did Pat not see Futurama? God is solar system. Initech Feb 2015 #36
I thought he was a galaxy that collided with a probe... Humanist_Activist Feb 2015 #40
lol Liberal_in_LA Feb 2015 #37
The greatest scientific minds of the last century hifiguy Feb 2015 #38
Which puts into question *God's* wisdom and intentions. No aliens but Pat Robertson? Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #39
Old Psycho Says Stuff. Iggo Feb 2015 #41

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
4. Pat Robinson is an argument against there being intelligent life on Earth.
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 07:26 AM
Feb 2015

It is too bad this huckster touches so many lives.

rpannier

(24,333 posts)
7. The real reason is
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 07:36 AM
Feb 2015

He's afraid we'll find other life and squash the far reich x-tians, "We're God's only creation" belief

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
35. That is it -
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 01:19 PM
Feb 2015

we're the only possible creations worth anything on the only possible planet worth anything. Aren't we special!

newfie11

(8,159 posts)
9. If any Aliens are reading this
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 07:37 AM
Feb 2015
Could you please please pick this weird strange defective earthling and deposit him in a galaxy far far away.
Preferably in another universe!

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
12. “This planet is where God has got an experiment in
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 07:46 AM
Feb 2015

“This planet is where God has got an experiment in what he wants to have accomplished,”
























octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
16. I'd like to know whose job
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 08:47 AM
Feb 2015

it is to sit around and write all these stupid ass talking points for Pat Robertson. They get wackier every day.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
17. Pat Robertson is a drunken coward.
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 08:55 AM
Feb 2015

My source is his then-fellow Republican, Pete McCloskey:

2nd Lt. Pat Robertson — DESERTER

The unctuous TV preacher Marion “Pat” Robertson once was a US Marine officer when he got the call that maybe his life was too important to risk on the battlefield.

During the fighting in Korea, Pat Robertson was a second lieutenant leading a platoon of US Marines heading for action in 1951 when he decided to call his daddy, then a very, very conservative and Democratic Senator from Virginia, to get him pulled off his troop transport ASAFP.

Robertson told the other officers he would be saying “Sayonara!” when the transport ship pulled into Yokohama, its final stop before Korea. The other officers thought Pat Robertson was joking, but when the ship shoved off, there was Pat (and another 2nd lieutenant, apparently for cover) on the dock, waving bye-bye.

Most of the officers and Marines went on to get wounded and killed. PTL, at least a couple remember the Truth.

The story was repeated in 1988 when Robertson ran for president as a “Combat Veteran.” The source of the story was Pete McCloskey (R-Calif.), one of the surviving USMC officers who was on the transport and witnessed seeing Pat wave buh-bye from the dock.

Here's a great resource on the subject:


THE LIQUOR OFFICER

Or PAT ROBERTSON GOES TO WAR

Excerpt...

Former GOP congressman Pete McCloskey of California, who served in the same unit as Robertson, claimed that Robertson had relied on his father's influence to get him out of combat duty. Robertson was so rankled by the charge that he sued McCloskey and Representative Andy Jacobs, an Indiana Democrat who also circulated the charges, for $35 million.

McCloskey insisted that Robertson was on a ship headed for combat until his father used his influence to have him removed. According to McCloskey, Robertson later boasted that he had used his father to "get him out of combat duty."

The libel suit turned out to be an embarrassment to Robertson. During depositions, Paul Brosman, Jr., a retired university professor who served with Robertson in Korea, backed up McCloskey's claim and went even further, asserting that the televangelist had consorted with prostitutes and had sexually harassed a Korean cleaning girl who worked in the barracks. Brosman's deposition asserted that Robertson once feared he had contracted gonorrhea from a prostitute and was "very relieved" when he discovered the problem was a urinary tract infection. Brosman added that he had never personally seen Robertson with a prostitute and said some of his remarks were based on "scuttlebutt" he heard from others.

The trial also established that Robertson's father did indeed send a number of letters about his son, on Senate stationery, to Marine officials. In one the elder Robertson expressed concern that his son had not been adequately trained to be a combat officer.

CONTINUED...

http://www.schlatter.org/liquor.htm

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
24. There was a question I wanted to ask regarding if you have information
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 10:23 AM
Feb 2015

regarding Skull & Bones and what the big secret is. I can't really find anything except that it is a secret & Prescott Bush may have grave robbed Geronimo's skull.

I was just thinking of how ill I'm becoming listening to Kerry speak regarding Ukraine, embracing & portraying them in honorable light while blaming everything on Putin.
An off-the-cuff remark by US Secretary of State John Kerry has snowballed into an international effort to seek a peaceful resolution to the chemical weapons dilemma in Syria.

Here's how the plan gained momentum:

Last week

Russian President Vladimir Putin offers to help negotiate a solution to the Syrian crisis at the G20 meeting in St. Petersburg.

Monday morning [US east coast]

Mr Kerry, when asked in London what Dr Assad could do to avert military action, says: "Turn it over, all of it, without delay and allow a full and total accounting for that," referring to Syria's chemical weapon stockpile.

"But he isn't about to do it and it can't be done."

Soon after

State Department issues clarification: "Secretary Kerry was making a rhetorical argument about the impossibility and unlikelihood of Assad turning over chemical weapons".

"His [Kerry's[ point was that this brutal dictator with a history of playing fast and loose with the facts cannot be trusted to turn over chemical weapons, otherwise he would have done so long ago. That's why the world faces this moment."

Within the next hour or so

Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov: "We are calling on the Syrian authorities not only agree on putting chemical weapons storages under international control, but also for its further destruction and then joining the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons," Mr Lavrov said.

"We have passed our offer to [Syrian Foreign Minister] Walid al-Muallem and hope to receive a fast and positive answer," he added.

Soon after

Syrian Forreign Minister Walid al-Muallem: "The Syrian Arab republic welcomes the Russian initiative, motivated by the concerns of the Russian leadership for the lives of our citizens and the security of our country," he said, according to Russia's Interfax news agency.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/25/secretary-state-john-kerry-meets-pakistani-army-ch/

Regarding the swift boating & differences between Bush, his early activism, & early Senate career I didn't know what to think & the only person I remember asking him was yelling "Don't taze me bro!" during his answer. I downplayed the link but their certain direction & rhetoric is the similar but he's good at it. Bush should have appointed him rather than Condi Rice. I don't focus too much on Kerry though.

Obama's chief economic advisor -- Skull & Bones. A recent judge -- skull & bones. He made a decision not to release Osama's death photos & while I'd feel a conspiracy to fake Osama's death would be really hard for me to believe, the government certainly behaved like they did. The burial at sea -- WTF? Still, I give them the benefit of doubt and say it was a bad judgment call.

A lot of bankers, disturbing number of judges, & sports figures. 2 Republican speech writers.

Pre 50s is troubling, several CIA personnel right when the CIA started up -- one of those William Sloane who became disillusioned with the CIA very early on & became a peace activist later in life (I felt Kerry was more like this but I still don't know if it is a harmless frat that keeps silly secret or what)

Numerous Secretaries of an Armed Forces branch.

As well as Prescott Bush and if I'm not mistaken, wasn't he behind the business plot? He happened to be a Wall Street banker during a confirmed historical even -- The Business Plot.

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Regarding Korea, I can't remember the reason why he didn't go with his unit in Korea -- some reason they kept him back. Told me his entire unit died in Korea.

tanyev

(42,597 posts)
19. So God 'allows' mass murders, terrorist attacks, and natural disasters....but not aliens.
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 09:30 AM
Feb 2015

OK, Pat. Whatever.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
21. So very little creativity and imagination within most right-wingers fearful little minds.
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 10:06 AM
Feb 2015

There is Greed though. Oh, yes, there's Greed as they worship Mammon.

rurallib

(62,434 posts)
23. methinks old Pat is concerned that maybe the gummint will tax
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 10:13 AM
Feb 2015

all of his bogus money machines hidden under tax exempt church laws.
You all know - his diamond mines or gold mines or whatever he has in Africa plus all the ways he has to take every last dollar from aunt Minnie.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
27. If Pat really knew God, I don't think he would be so arrogant as to speak for him.
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 11:07 AM
Feb 2015

And if there really was a God, he'd strike that old coot with lightening for doing so.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
29. God has a somewhat juvenile sense of humor, as shown by His messing with Pat Robertson
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 11:54 AM
Feb 2015

Remember that, in 2012, God told Pat Robertson that Romney would win. A year or so later, God told him that Obama would resign in 2014.

If this record is any indication, Robertson's latest divine revelation means that the Zontarean embassy ship has just come out of hyperspace and will be here in a week or two.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
30. We are all going to be surprised when we 'move on' i.e. die.
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 12:44 PM
Feb 2015

Some are going to be more surprised that others. Pat is one of those who will be surprised and shocked. He is so narrow.

Liberal Veteran

(22,239 posts)
31. Seems like an awful lot of space for our small species.
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 12:54 PM
Feb 2015

Even worse than creating all the oceans to hold one single plankton.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
32. Because an eternal being of infinite power....
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 12:58 PM
Feb 2015

... can only ignore the prayers of one species at a time.


 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
33. All the more reason to look....
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 12:58 PM
Feb 2015

... if only to prove this wackadoodle wrong.

Lordy but that would be satisfying...

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
38. The greatest scientific minds of the last century
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 05:03 PM
Feb 2015

were capable of imagining infinity, even multiple universes.

Not one of them is capable of imagining the extent of this senile old turd's ignorance and stupidity. Not Einstein, not Hawking, not Sagan, not Witten. Some things are beyond even genius.

As Einstein observed, the difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits.

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