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(21,086 posts)orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)hedgehog
(36,286 posts)Little Star
(17,055 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)It's a magic trick I tells ya.
midnight
(26,624 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)He wouldn't even give her a minute to talk.
Icicle
(121 posts)If he let her speak and make her point, it would make him look like an ass. Therefore, babble over the person who is speaking the truth.
Obstruct, obfuscate, lie, lie lie. That's all the Repubs have.
malaise
(269,157 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Rachel is always sharp and on point. Well, except when she's talking about 'Boat Jail.'
DCKit
(18,541 posts)Just goes to show how afraid they are of Rachel, or anyone else with those liberally biased "fact" thingies.
He was there to waste as much time as possible in order that the show would end before Rachel was able to make the argument. However, Rachel is smart enough to now realize how important this issue is to them, and she's going to use the hell out of it. They are struggling mightily with women, and "Teh War on Women" is going to hurt them badly in November.
Oh, and David Gregory is totally useless. He should be on the road "Rappin' With KKKarl Rove" instead of hosting what used to be one of the most prestigious Sunday shows - but that's his reward for cheerleading the WH based war criminals assess for eight years.
thesquanderer
(11,991 posts)...because basically you could post a new topic with that headline almost every day.
babylonsister
(171,090 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)Oh yes in 19 of the 20 jobs women lag behind
malaise
(269,157 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)You don't talk down to Rachel Maddow.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,194 posts)Of course, that's like saying "Mitt's a Twit" -- it was true yesterday, it's true today, and I'm pretty sure it'll be true tomorrow.
burrowowl
(17,645 posts)krispos42
(49,445 posts)The Romneys tell me this is employment, so it must be true.
Or something.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)comparing medians is not comparing people who are doing the same job. Reading an article yesterday, I found this
"It is worth noting that economists and sociologists who have examined this issue across a wider range of firms have tended to come to a similar conclusion: pay differences between men an women in the same narrowly-defined occupational categories within the same firm tend to be small. (Blau, 1977; Groshen, 1991; Peterson & Morgan, 1995; and Bayard, Hellerstein, Neumark, & Troske, 1999) However, even when men and women are in the same occupation, they tend to be segregated by firm, and such establishment segregation contributes substantially to the gender pay gap."
http://www.stanford.edu/group/scspi/_media/pdf/key_issues/gender_research.pdf
Except that comparing two people working for different companies is not comparing people who are doing the same job.
Of course "small" is a qualitative term. Does it mean 95 cents on the dollar, 99 cents on the dollar, 102 cents on the dollar, or what?
But no matter what, the 77 cents on the dollar is an apples to oranges comparison that is not generally accurate if one compares apples to apples.
mopinko
(70,210 posts)that 275 to 1 (or whatever the exact number is) professions where women make less than men.
and working for "different companies" is easily influenced by gender. go to the ihop some time and see how many men are waiting tables there, and then go downtown and see how many women are working in the top tier restaurants. same job different companies? sure, that explains why they don't hire women to wait tables downtown.
plcdude
(5,310 posts)to equal pay for the same job not the graphic above. Forbes, the bastion of the liberal press had an interesting article on this during equal pay day, http://www.forbes.com/sites/jennagoudreau/2012/04/17/today-women-need-to-demand-equal-pay/
stevedeshazer
(21,653 posts)Sending to my daughter.
These men who believe that women don't deserve the same pay as men are ignoring that they have mothers, sisters, girlfriends, daughters and by the look of most of 'em, granddaughters included. And grandsons.
There are more women than men. Frankly, the only reason I can think of to keep women's pay down is because you really believe women should make less. Period. You think males are worth more. Sorry, my mom, grandmothers, aunts and cousins don't agree. They all worked just as hard as my nearly-as-industrious dad, uncles and grandmas.
Rachel is right.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)got root
(425 posts):shakes-head:
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)She is almost always right. If she weren't, we'd probably have to send her to Boat Jail.
malaise
(269,157 posts)opihimoimoi
(52,426 posts)shcrane71
(1,721 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)that we women don't know what we're talking about?
stick it, dudes.
bullwinkle428
(20,630 posts)felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)for years (except for a government job that gave us a Gs rating) who made significantly more per hour than I did.
The ERA is past due!!!!! President Obama would totally rock if he passed this amendment, right?