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Effing unbelievable. Famous Ninevah artifacts destroyed. I effing hope these despicable ignorant assholes rot in hell.
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The extremist group has destroyed a number of shrines - including Muslim holy sites - in a bid to eliminate what it views as heresy.
Militants are also believed to have sold ancient artifacts on the black market in order to finance their bloody campaign across the region.
The video bore the logo of the ISIS group's media arm and was posted on a Twitter account used by the group.
Yesterday it was revealed how terrorists had blown up the Mosul Public Library, sending 10,000 books and more than 700 rare manuscripts up in flames.
Leading members of Mosul society reportedly tried to stop the fanatics destroying the building, but failed.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2970270/Islamic-State-fighters-destroy-antiquities-Iraq-video.html#ixzz3SrubPz9F
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Who hasn't ever seen this famous statue? Now its GONE along with many other priceless artifacts.
niyad
(113,513 posts)hired killers were guarding the oil fields. such hatred for civilization.
salin
(48,955 posts)to steal (for gain) rather than religiously/or intended-fear inducing motivated.
I wonder if the point is purely religious - or more terror related (I lean toward the latter) - as a warning. That even extremely valuable intiquities have no value and if the IS (or taliban in the earlier example) can do *this* they are capable of destroying anything/everything.
niyad
(113,513 posts)Drale
(7,932 posts)http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/1326063/After-1700-years-Buddhas-fall-to-Taliban-dynamite.html
Extremists will destroy anything that interferes with there little world view or that they think will damage their "control".
July
(4,750 posts)it causes anger and anguish among those who don't share their views, and that effect is more valuable to them than anything else.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Knowledge leads to questions. Can't have that.
niyad
(113,513 posts)snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)It is a religion created by people and because it is a HUMAN CREATION it is FLAWED such as its stance on idolatry not to mention its arrogance as being the final word of its deity. The fuckers who have perpetrated this crime stated these were idols. They were destroyed because that is what is in a fucking book.
Exhibit A
(318 posts)eissa
(4,238 posts)They're petrified of them.
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)Perhaps t is not ironic perhaps these misogynist ignorant shitheads are aware of the link to the Goddess.
eissa
(4,238 posts)ISIS was the name of an Egyptian Goddess, I doubt they're sophisticated enough to know the history of Nineveh. I'm just numbed by their evilness. I shouldn't be given the history of what Assyrians have gone through at the hands of such merciless barbarians, including my own grandparents. But yet, here we are. Again.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)usurp the divine feminine for their addiction to violence and violent power.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Exhibit A
(318 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)the Khmer Rouge did not sink to this absolute zero. Let that rattle around in your brain box for a while. Not even the fucking Khmer Rouge.
randome
(34,845 posts)While there is something to be said for that in the microcosm of the Middle East, that doesn't explain these type of atrocities, against people and culture.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]You should never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Give people jobs (and thus hope for the future), and you give them an investment in society (and its artifacts, history, culture, etc.).
Perhaps, on some level, that's the point of this destruction - sit around doing nothing, and the Western media ignores you. Do something provocative, and suddenly, the whole world is paying attention.
This is not an argument that I approve of any of this going on; it is, as I assume with you here, an attempt to identify a way of solving a problem here.
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)have joined the shits. What they stated categorically is that these are idols as per Koran. Where the fuck in the Koran does it say to value the kuffur culture? No where so I lay the blame on Islam. On its fucking arrogance.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)these assholes are not religious fighters but gangs acting as terrorist being sponsored by people whose interest is not the well being
of depraved people, but the protection of the 1% class around the world, better yet the cartels among the 1%. There actions so far
has not changed my thinking on this, I think it's time the powers that be start looking at it from this perspective.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)religion. Fundamentalist religion of all kinds is eternally hostile to knowledge, history and the existence of anything that can serve as a basis for questions or critique. It's the nature and basis of reductionist know-nothingism.
Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)MONEY! therefore I disagree slightly that they are fundamentals, because their actions has proven otherwise.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)They steal and fence it. Lunatics blow shit up.
bklyncowgirl
(7,960 posts)CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)considering that these statues survived for thousands of years?
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)No other explanation does justice to every reason for ISIS than this piece. I strongly encourage you to read it and then come back and argue this is simply about money.
http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/
eissa
(4,238 posts)against the Armenians, Assyrians and Pontic Greeks, these savages continue the tradition. Wiping out Assyrian villages in the Khabour region of Syria and taking over 200 hostages, and now erasing their history in their ancient capital of Mosul (Nineveh.) Every day brings a new horror with these sub-human barbarians.
brooklynite
(94,679 posts)Hate to think what ISIS would do with it...
whatthehey
(3,660 posts)They just adopt iconoclasm out of resentment of British colonialism and the lack of economic opportunity! Because all disaffected purely economic underclasses are driven to destroy greaven images!
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)But I do.
Brigid
(17,621 posts)Now the statue is just . . . gone?
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)ck4829
(35,079 posts)In their eyes, history before ISIS is meaningless, they'd destroy things tied to Muhammad himself if given the opportunity.
Karmadillo
(9,253 posts)Are the Americans and British responsible for the destruction described in this article (and those responsible for enabling ISIS through our criminal invasion of Iraq) also "despicable ignorant assholes" who should "rot in hell"?
https://www.globalpolicy.org/component/content/article/167/35661.html
British and American Collusion in the Pillaging of Iraq's Heritage
By Simon Jenkins
Guardian
June 8, 2007
Fly into the American air base of Tallil outside Nasiriya in central Iraq and the flight path is over the great ziggurat of Ur, reputedly the earliest city on earth. Seen from the base in the desert haze or the sand-filled gloom of dusk, the structure is indistinguishable from the mounds of fuel dumps, stores and hangars. Ur is safe within the base compound. But its walls are pockmarked with wartime shrapnel and a blockhouse is being built over an adjacent archaeological site. When the head of Iraq's supposedly sovereign board of antiquities and heritage, Abbas al-Hussaini, tried to inspect the site recently, the Americans refused him access to his own most important monument.
Yesterday Hussaini reported to the British Museum on his struggles to protect his work in a state of anarchy. It was a heart breaking presentation. Under Saddam you were likely to be tortured and shot if you let someone steal an antiquity; in today's Iraq you are likely to be tortured and shot if you don't. The tragic fate of the national museum in Baghdad in April 2003 was as if federal troops had invaded New York city, sacked the police and told the criminal community that the Metropolitan was at their disposal. The local tank commander was told specifically not to protect the museum for a full two weeks after the invasion. Even the Nazis protected the Louvre.
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Hussaini confirmed a report two years ago by John Curtis, of the British Museum, on America's conversion of Nebuchadnezzar's great city of Babylon into the hanging gardens of Halliburton. This meant a 150-hectare camp for 2,000 troops. In the process the 2,500-year-old brick pavement to the Ishtar Gate was smashed by tanks and the gate itself damaged. The archaeology-rich subsoil was bulldozed to fill sandbags, and large areas covered in compacted gravel for helipads and car parks. Babylon is being rendered archaeologically barren. Meanwhile the courtyard of the 10th-century caravanserai of Khan al-Raba was used by the Americans for exploding captured insurgent weapons. One blast demolished the ancient roofs and felled many of the walls. The place is now a ruin.
Outside the capital some 10,000 sites of incomparable importance to the history of western civilisation, barely 20% yet excavated, are being looted as systematically as was the museum in 2003. When George tried to remove vulnerable carvings from the ancient city of Umma to Baghdad, he found gangs of looters already in place with bulldozers, dump trucks and AK47s.
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snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)dembotoz
(16,820 posts)i forget--what faith are they?
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)The fact that the West progressed. We don't hack off limbs. We don't stone people. etc etc etc
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Archaeology wasn't even a "thing" back in the 16th C.