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snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 12:18 PM Feb 2015

OMG. ISIS thugs take a hammer to civilisation: Priceless famous 3,000-year-old artworks smashed

Effing unbelievable. Famous Ninevah artifacts destroyed. I effing hope these despicable ignorant assholes rot in hell.


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The extremist group has destroyed a number of shrines - including Muslim holy sites - in a bid to eliminate what it views as heresy.

Militants are also believed to have sold ancient artifacts on the black market in order to finance their bloody campaign across the region.

The video bore the logo of the ISIS group's media arm and was posted on a Twitter account used by the group.

Yesterday it was revealed how terrorists had blown up the Mosul Public Library, sending 10,000 books and more than 700 rare manuscripts up in flames.



Leading members of Mosul society reportedly tried to stop the fanatics destroying the building, but failed.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2970270/Islamic-State-fighters-destroy-antiquities-Iraq-video.html#ixzz3SrubPz9F
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Who hasn't ever seen this famous statue? Now its GONE along with many other priceless artifacts.



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OMG. ISIS thugs take a hammer to civilisation: Priceless famous 3,000-year-old artworks smashed (Original Post) snagglepuss Feb 2015 OP
the taliban did something similar, and then there was the looting of the iraq museum while our niyad Feb 2015 #1
I agree about the Taliban ... but I think the looting of the Iraq museum was more salin Feb 2015 #3
I think you have the right of it. pure terror. niyad Feb 2015 #7
The Buddhas of Bamiyan were destroyed by the Taliban Drale Feb 2015 #29
Agreed, to them it's a show of their power. July Feb 2015 #40
All religious fundamentalists hate knowledge. hifiguy Feb 2015 #6
sadly, you are correct. niyad Feb 2015 #8
I really am fed up with whataboutry. Islam is not some divine revelation snagglepuss Feb 2015 #14
Well said. n/t Exhibit A Feb 2015 #15
And vaginas. Don't forget the vaginas. eissa Feb 2015 #16
Ironic that ancient Assyrians believed Ninevah to be the seat of the goddess Ishtar. snagglepuss Feb 2015 #20
If these ignorant assholes couldn't figure out that eissa Feb 2015 #23
Isis represents the divine feminine energy. Figures a bunch of controlling bullies would want to Dont call me Shirley Feb 2015 #27
Who are the hired killers you speak of? yeoman6987 Feb 2015 #34
These people are a bottomless pit of depravity. Exhibit A Feb 2015 #2
Even the Nazis, Stalin and hifiguy Feb 2015 #4
All they need are stable jobs. randome Feb 2015 #5
I agree. Hoodlums throughout history often were simply the idle unemployed. closeupready Feb 2015 #9
Where's your proof they don't have jobs when 1000s of Western mMuslims with jobs snagglepuss Feb 2015 #10
I refuse to engage with you, so later. closeupready Feb 2015 #13
I said this a while back on DU that Hutzpa Feb 2015 #11
I think this is very much motivated by hifiguy Feb 2015 #12
Thugs are motivated by one thing and one thing only Hutzpa Feb 2015 #17
Looters don't blow shit up and destroy it. hifiguy Feb 2015 #24
Isis is deep into the illegal antiquities market--this was probably too big to sell. bklyncowgirl Feb 2015 #35
Is it possible that this form of fundie religion is a new phenomenon CJCRANE Feb 2015 #19
Good point. randome Feb 2015 #21
Then you haven't read this Atlantic article riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #25
100 years after the genocide committed by the Ottoman Turks eissa Feb 2015 #18
When I was in Syria 3 years ago, we has a chance to see a pristine 5,000 year old hittite statue... brooklynite Feb 2015 #22
But religion has nothing to do with it! whatthehey Feb 2015 #26
Causing outrage, stoking the war flames, following the global mic orders. Dont call me Shirley Feb 2015 #28
Most people here don't get that. closeupready Feb 2015 #33
That very photo has been a staple in Bible handbooks for decades. Brigid Feb 2015 #30
there are no words snagglepuss Feb 2015 #31
ISIS's version of Year Zero ck4829 Feb 2015 #32
British and American Collusion in the Pillaging of Iraq's Heritage Karmadillo Feb 2015 #36
What has that travesty to do with this? snagglepuss Feb 2015 #37
we are fortunate the spanish were so respectful when they moved into central america dembotoz Feb 2015 #38
How many years ago was that? This is just more pointless whataboutery. snagglepuss Feb 2015 #39
MUST we continue to look to depredations of CENTURIES AGO to implicitly excuse the PRESENT ones? WinkyDink Feb 2015 #42
I could kill every one of those destroyers with pleasure. Sue me; IDGAF. WinkyDink Feb 2015 #41

niyad

(113,513 posts)
1. the taliban did something similar, and then there was the looting of the iraq museum while our
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 12:21 PM
Feb 2015

hired killers were guarding the oil fields. such hatred for civilization.

salin

(48,955 posts)
3. I agree about the Taliban ... but I think the looting of the Iraq museum was more
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 12:27 PM
Feb 2015

to steal (for gain) rather than religiously/or intended-fear inducing motivated.

I wonder if the point is purely religious - or more terror related (I lean toward the latter) - as a warning. That even extremely valuable intiquities have no value and if the IS (or taliban in the earlier example) can do *this* they are capable of destroying anything/everything.

July

(4,750 posts)
40. Agreed, to them it's a show of their power.
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 08:13 PM
Feb 2015

it causes anger and anguish among those who don't share their views, and that effect is more valuable to them than anything else.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
6. All religious fundamentalists hate knowledge.
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 12:29 PM
Feb 2015

Knowledge leads to questions. Can't have that.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
14. I really am fed up with whataboutry. Islam is not some divine revelation
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 12:50 PM
Feb 2015

It is a religion created by people and because it is a HUMAN CREATION it is FLAWED such as its stance on idolatry not to mention its arrogance as being the final word of its deity. The fuckers who have perpetrated this crime stated these were idols. They were destroyed because that is what is in a fucking book.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
20. Ironic that ancient Assyrians believed Ninevah to be the seat of the goddess Ishtar.
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 01:27 PM
Feb 2015

Perhaps t is not ironic perhaps these misogynist ignorant shitheads are aware of the link to the Goddess.

eissa

(4,238 posts)
23. If these ignorant assholes couldn't figure out that
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 01:34 PM
Feb 2015

ISIS was the name of an Egyptian Goddess, I doubt they're sophisticated enough to know the history of Nineveh. I'm just numbed by their evilness. I shouldn't be given the history of what Assyrians have gone through at the hands of such merciless barbarians, including my own grandparents. But yet, here we are. Again.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
27. Isis represents the divine feminine energy. Figures a bunch of controlling bullies would want to
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 02:02 PM
Feb 2015

usurp the divine feminine for their addiction to violence and violent power.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
4. Even the Nazis, Stalin and
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 12:27 PM
Feb 2015

the Khmer Rouge did not sink to this absolute zero. Let that rattle around in your brain box for a while. Not even the fucking Khmer Rouge.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
5. All they need are stable jobs.
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 12:27 PM
Feb 2015

While there is something to be said for that in the microcosm of the Middle East, that doesn't explain these type of atrocities, against people and culture.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]You should never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
9. I agree. Hoodlums throughout history often were simply the idle unemployed.
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 12:33 PM
Feb 2015

Give people jobs (and thus hope for the future), and you give them an investment in society (and its artifacts, history, culture, etc.).

Perhaps, on some level, that's the point of this destruction - sit around doing nothing, and the Western media ignores you. Do something provocative, and suddenly, the whole world is paying attention.

This is not an argument that I approve of any of this going on; it is, as I assume with you here, an attempt to identify a way of solving a problem here.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
10. Where's your proof they don't have jobs when 1000s of Western mMuslims with jobs
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 12:38 PM
Feb 2015

have joined the shits. What they stated categorically is that these are idols as per Koran. Where the fuck in the Koran does it say to value the kuffur culture? No where so I lay the blame on Islam. On its fucking arrogance.

Hutzpa

(11,461 posts)
11. I said this a while back on DU that
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 12:40 PM
Feb 2015

these assholes are not religious fighters but gangs acting as terrorist being sponsored by people whose interest is not the well being
of depraved people, but the protection of the 1% class around the world, better yet the cartels among the 1%. There actions so far
has not changed my thinking on this, I think it's time the powers that be start looking at it from this perspective.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
12. I think this is very much motivated by
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 12:46 PM
Feb 2015

religion. Fundamentalist religion of all kinds is eternally hostile to knowledge, history and the existence of anything that can serve as a basis for questions or critique. It's the nature and basis of reductionist know-nothingism.

Hutzpa

(11,461 posts)
17. Thugs are motivated by one thing and one thing only
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 01:15 PM
Feb 2015

MONEY! therefore I disagree slightly that they are fundamentals, because their actions has proven otherwise.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
19. Is it possible that this form of fundie religion is a new phenomenon
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 01:24 PM
Feb 2015

considering that these statues survived for thousands of years?


 

randome

(34,845 posts)
21. Good point.
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 01:31 PM
Feb 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]
 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
25. Then you haven't read this Atlantic article
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 01:54 PM
Feb 2015

No other explanation does justice to every reason for ISIS than this piece. I strongly encourage you to read it and then come back and argue this is simply about money.

http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

eissa

(4,238 posts)
18. 100 years after the genocide committed by the Ottoman Turks
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 01:18 PM
Feb 2015

against the Armenians, Assyrians and Pontic Greeks, these savages continue the tradition. Wiping out Assyrian villages in the Khabour region of Syria and taking over 200 hostages, and now erasing their history in their ancient capital of Mosul (Nineveh.) Every day brings a new horror with these sub-human barbarians.

brooklynite

(94,679 posts)
22. When I was in Syria 3 years ago, we has a chance to see a pristine 5,000 year old hittite statue...
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 01:33 PM
Feb 2015

Hate to think what ISIS would do with it...

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
26. But religion has nothing to do with it!
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 01:58 PM
Feb 2015

They just adopt iconoclasm out of resentment of British colonialism and the lack of economic opportunity! Because all disaffected purely economic underclasses are driven to destroy greaven images!

ck4829

(35,079 posts)
32. ISIS's version of Year Zero
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 02:09 PM
Feb 2015

In their eyes, history before ISIS is meaningless, they'd destroy things tied to Muhammad himself if given the opportunity.

Karmadillo

(9,253 posts)
36. British and American Collusion in the Pillaging of Iraq's Heritage
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 02:21 PM
Feb 2015

Are the Americans and British responsible for the destruction described in this article (and those responsible for enabling ISIS through our criminal invasion of Iraq) also "despicable ignorant assholes" who should "rot in hell"?

https://www.globalpolicy.org/component/content/article/167/35661.html

British and American Collusion in the Pillaging of Iraq's Heritage
By Simon Jenkins
Guardian
June 8, 2007

Fly into the American air base of Tallil outside Nasiriya in central Iraq and the flight path is over the great ziggurat of Ur, reputedly the earliest city on earth. Seen from the base in the desert haze or the sand-filled gloom of dusk, the structure is indistinguishable from the mounds of fuel dumps, stores and hangars. Ur is safe within the base compound. But its walls are pockmarked with wartime shrapnel and a blockhouse is being built over an adjacent archaeological site. When the head of Iraq's supposedly sovereign board of antiquities and heritage, Abbas al-Hussaini, tried to inspect the site recently, the Americans refused him access to his own most important monument.

Yesterday Hussaini reported to the British Museum on his struggles to protect his work in a state of anarchy. It was a heart breaking presentation. Under Saddam you were likely to be tortured and shot if you let someone steal an antiquity; in today's Iraq you are likely to be tortured and shot if you don't. The tragic fate of the national museum in Baghdad in April 2003 was as if federal troops had invaded New York city, sacked the police and told the criminal community that the Metropolitan was at their disposal. The local tank commander was told specifically not to protect the museum for a full two weeks after the invasion. Even the Nazis protected the Louvre.

<edit>

Hussaini confirmed a report two years ago by John Curtis, of the British Museum, on America's conversion of Nebuchadnezzar's great city of Babylon into the hanging gardens of Halliburton. This meant a 150-hectare camp for 2,000 troops. In the process the 2,500-year-old brick pavement to the Ishtar Gate was smashed by tanks and the gate itself damaged. The archaeology-rich subsoil was bulldozed to fill sandbags, and large areas covered in compacted gravel for helipads and car parks. Babylon is being rendered archaeologically barren. Meanwhile the courtyard of the 10th-century caravanserai of Khan al-Raba was used by the Americans for exploding captured insurgent weapons. One blast demolished the ancient roofs and felled many of the walls. The place is now a ruin.

Outside the capital some 10,000 sites of incomparable importance to the history of western civilisation, barely 20% yet excavated, are being looted as systematically as was the museum in 2003. When George tried to remove vulnerable carvings from the ancient city of Umma to Baghdad, he found gangs of looters already in place with bulldozers, dump trucks and AK47s.

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dembotoz

(16,820 posts)
38. we are fortunate the spanish were so respectful when they moved into central america
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 02:27 PM
Feb 2015



i forget--what faith are they?


snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
39. How many years ago was that? This is just more pointless whataboutery.
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 07:46 PM
Feb 2015

The fact that the West progressed. We don't hack off limbs. We don't stone people. etc etc etc

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
42. MUST we continue to look to depredations of CENTURIES AGO to implicitly excuse the PRESENT ones?
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 08:20 PM
Feb 2015

Archaeology wasn't even a "thing" back in the 16th C.

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