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Former Republican Rep. Ron Paul, the father of potential presidential candidate Rand Paul and a former presidential candidate himself, said the Congressional Black Caucus does not support war because they want that money for food stamps.
I was always annoyed with it in Congress because we had an anti-war unofficial group, a few libertarian Republicans and generally the Black Caucus and others did notthey are really against war because they want all of that money to go to food stamps for people here, Ron Paul told Lew Rockwell in early February during a discussion on sanctions. <...>
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/ron-paul-congressional-black-caucus-only-against-war-because?utm_term=.exw2XQda9#.bvdn9XAze
Always remember, folks: Paul had NOTHING to do with those racist newsletters bearing his name, so STOP SAYING THAT!
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Those supporters you're referring to here will probably vote for Rand Paul while they actively try to destroy Hillary.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)where all his emoprog dudebro cheerleaders on DU went...
None of them dare admit I had Paul and his cultists pegged from Day 1 back in '08...
Tarheel_Dem
(31,237 posts)kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)JI7
(89,260 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)No matter how slimy.
Cha
(297,503 posts)how much did his supporters turn themselves into pretzels over it?!!
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Dennis had no problem with redlining in his district as a councilman, for instance.
Cha
(297,503 posts)him "dreamy" like eddie snowden.
"On #arsificial, a channel on Ars Technica's public Internet Relay Chat server, Snowden shared his opinions with other users on everything from life in Switzerland ("God I hate metric. Why can't they use real numbers over here?" to Ron Paul ("He's so dreamy." to unemployment in the US ("Almost everyone was self-employed prior to 1900. Why is 12% employment so terrifying?" to Social Security ("Somehow, our society managed to make it hundreds of years without social security just fine." ."
http://mic.com/articles/51403/edward-snowden-in-2009-leakers-should-be-shot-in-the-balls
valerief
(53,235 posts)not oligarchs.
AMEN!
wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)Skittles
(153,174 posts)Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,473 posts)What's wrong with any congressperson saying "we oppose this expenditure on war, and would like the money spent in ways that would actually benefit our constituents"?
I would point out, however, that the overwhelming majority of food stamp recipients are white.
Also not to war and killing.
riversedge
(70,273 posts)williesgirl
(4,033 posts)Man from Pickens
(1,713 posts)lemme see... war or food stamps... I think I have a preference
KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)And the Congressional Black Caucus doesn't want Americans to die of starvation or malnutrition any more than they want American troops to die for wars based on lies.
FSogol
(45,514 posts)He's actually a sophisticated slime mold/cockroach hybrid. No offense to slime molds and cockroaches.
3catwoman3
(24,026 posts)Well, barely.
Rozlee
(2,529 posts)If you don't leave out milk and earmarks for his district, he'll blight your garden.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)FSogol
(45,514 posts)irisblue
(33,018 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)are ignorant ,rascist , lazy asswipes .
on point
(2,506 posts)Plus tax cuts for wealthy naturally. Part of their basic corruption
whathehell
(29,082 posts)OMG. What an IDIOTIC racist fuck.
These effing people are OBSESSED with food stamps -- You'd think we
were spending a military sized budget on them, when the truth is,
the ENTIRE "safety net" of the United States is the SMALLEST in the
Wesern Industrialized world.
But you are correct -- this shows that he is just ANOTHER Right Wing
Racist -- The only good thing he did with this is POSSIBLY ruin Rand's
chances, otherwise Rand will have to go all Jeb Bush, and explain
how he's NOT his dad.
ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)A lot more of them than black folks, as a matter of fact.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Nasty on the inside. Like a bowl of unwashed chittlins.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)http://www.lewrockwell.com/author/gary-north/
Put lew rockwell + anything for the same if not worse, like promoting Neo-Confederacy. The cult support of the Pauls is nauseating.
These are Infowars source materials, along with Bircher screeds, touted daily and tailored to affect any disaffected group. But this is what it leads back to in the end. It's no wonder they win elections, they've got the advantage.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)OMG. The man needs an institution.
I've always thought rand paul looked like a weasel.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Last edited Tue Feb 24, 2015, 07:54 PM - Edit history (1)
He is one! He flip flops more than an over cooked pancake on a griddle. Always the opportunist.Don't forget his frat days when he and his pals dragged a girl out to a lake and forced her to get down on her knees before him to allegedly worship Rand as the 'Aqua Bubba.' Rather suggestive, imagery, no?
She was intimidated into not going to the law. That came out and he got elected.
His staff headstomping a woman didn't put off his voting block, so it's no wonder they are against women in every way.
He was even elected after admitting in 2010 he'd pay for the deficits* caused by the extension of the Bush tax cut rate by eliminating vets' healthcare, SNAP, Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare and on and on.
He's still getting the nod after attempts with every CR to frontload them with national personhood, RTW laws and Keystone. Ha,ha! Obama just vetoed it!
Add his supporting the 2A solution, unlimited gun rights, militias and secession, 'states rights' under its new brand 'Tenther' and his dismissing voting rand civil rights as beneath property rights, he is the perfect plantation era candidate.
His group want not only the amendments gone in the end, but the Constitution as well, and a return to the Articles of the Conferacy, which had no issue with slavery philosophically.
None of that mattered to his voters, and doesn't seem to matter to a lot of people online, either.
*He was for increasing the deficit with his vote, and was elected like the rest of the Tea Party, to stop the sunset of the Bush tax cut and to pass Keystone. Clinton had a higher tax rate and Obama based his economic recovery plans on that, and resisted Keystone since he entered office in 2009.
Then the fight was on against Obama immediately, never ended, with a American public who either votes GOP or doesn't vote, which is the same thing.
Yet some support the weasel.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Weasels are kind of cute
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Some type of ratty animal. He's just plain oogly. Poor thing.
JHB
(37,161 posts)I always like that aspect of that claim: "I deny racism by admitting to blatant fraud."
Rex
(65,616 posts)I think Ron Paul might be certifiably insane.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)But when he was in office his handlers and staffers could "filter" him and put him in the best light -- Especially when he was a presidential contender...
Now that he's out of the daily public spotlight, watch out....
Rex
(65,616 posts)It is lower than base. His very atoms scream for sweat release from the insane giggling entity that is Ron Paul. The stars in the heavens demand back their star stuff in silence rage. A protest made billions of years before the galaxy coalesced into what we perceive it as today. Time and space are offended by this walking talking abomination. Air cries in agony when he opens his mouth to release sounds similar to broken glass and fingernails on a chalkboard.
It is close to something like that.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)3catwoman3
(24,026 posts)I read it 3 times just to enjoy your word usage.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)But,what a f-ing idiot and racist.
more whites than blacks are on welfare.
Food stamps helps many to have money for food.
I am white but i an tired of bs from those like him and gingrich.
TheKentuckian
(25,029 posts)Iggo
(47,563 posts)Sorry..."White Supremacist."
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Paul called Snowden a truth-teller, and asked why whistleblowers like him were demonized.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-02-14/edward-snowden-and-ron-paul-kick-off-libertarian-student-conference-with-a-little-kerfuffle-about-russia
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)the surveillance state, are you?
Cha
(297,503 posts)before he became one.
"On #arsificial, a channel on Ars Technica's public Internet Relay Chat server, Snowden shared his opinions with other users on everything from life in Switzerland ("God I hate metric. Why can't they use real numbers over here?" to Ron Paul ("He's so dreamy." to unemployment in the US ("Almost everyone was self-employed prior to 1900. Why is 12% employment so terrifying?" to Social Security ("Somehow, our society managed to make it hundreds of years without social security just fine." ."
http://mic.com/articles/51403/edward-snowden-in-2009-leakers-should-be-shot-in-the-balls
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)it speaks for itself.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)I guess all catholics are Nazis.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Secretary of State Hillary Clinton interrupted her testimony on Capitol Hill today to pay a compliment to Rep. Ron Paul, the Texas congressman who made an unsuccessful bid for the GOP presidential nomination last year.
As she finished answering a question from Paul, she added: And, at the risk of going over our time, I just want to say, having campaigned during the last presidential election, you had the most enthusiastic supporters of anybody I ever saw.
Paul laughed, and replied, I love to hear that.
--
I've asked this before, and I'll try again: what's your hourly billing rate?
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)in love.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)I have an admiration for the work that Ed Snowden and Glenn Greenwald have done. You have a special hatred for both of them. As a consequence, we both end up in the same threads (and sub-threads that relate to Greenwald, Snowden, or both). So you can stop your low-level stalking accusations and do this thing head-on.
So let's go. You've tried to smear Ed Snowden by association to Ron Paul. I responded with a post about Hillary Clinton praising Ron Paul. You changed the subject.
And no, not if we were the last two people on earth, msanthrope. If I haven't been completely clear about that, please do ask for more clarification.
(edited for clarity--specified "sub-threads" instead of "threads"
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)Big surprise there. not.
Rex
(65,616 posts)"Even when there are tensions between our values and other objectives, America, he reminds us, succeeds by standing up for our values, not shirking them, and leads by engaging peoples and societies, the sources of legitimacy, not governments alone."
That's HRC praising Henry Kissinger.
Hey, anyone KNOW the next time Good Henry plans on taking a vacation to Vietnam or Pakistan or Turkey or Chile? A lot more countries where he helped fund dictators at Ford and Nixon's request?
IMO, praising Good Henry is like praising Dick Cheney.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)G_j
(40,367 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Supporting and donating to Paul is not a politically neutral position. Anyone who fell for that bigot or falls for his son, has questionable judgment.
Both of the Bircher Pauls are dividing the nation to sell off to corporations and the super rich. They follow the Koch agenda without fail. Both father and son stink:
All over the road! Technicolor!
Oh, you got pollution! It's dead!
And it's stinking to high heaven!
C'mon, stink!
JMHO, and one of my favorite country songs...
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)We're not supposed to care.
uponit7771
(90,348 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Regardless of your irrelevancy, FDR called Stalin a friend to Democracy.
Cha
(297,503 posts)http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/10/edward-snowden-ron-paul_n_3414992.html
Edward Snowden and Ron Paul Kick Off Libertarian Student Conference With a Little Kerfuffle About Russia
snip//
"You know, my name was connected to Edward Snowden," said Paul. "They really wanted to blackball him, to destroy him, so they said: He donated to the Ron Paul campaign!"
snip//
"You continue to stand behind individuals who espouse racist, homophobic, and sexist ideas," said the student. "Why have you not explicitly condemned the authors?"
There was a mixture of boos and applause -- definitely more boos. Paul brushed off the question. "You'd have to dig 'em up, because I can't find stuff like that," he said. "I personally did not write the stuff out, and I had said where I disagree on it. That is too broad, for me to say I'm gonna disavow everything I wrote in a newsletter, that's foolishness."
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-02-14/edward-snowden-and-ron-paul-kick-off-libertarian-student-conference-with-a-little-kerfuffle-about-russia
"Former Republican Rep. Ron Paul, the father of potential presidential candidate Rand Paul and a former presidential candidate himself, said the Congressional Black Caucus does not support war because they want that money for food stamps."
Ron Paul: Full of Libertarian racist Bullshit.. and his little acolyte eddie..
No wonder Eddie gets along with Putin so well..
Former KGB general: Snowden is cooperating with Russian intelligence
http://venturebeat.com/2014/05/22/former-kgb-general-snowden-is-cooperating-with-russian-intelligence/
Don't make me have to re-post the Eddie quote on how he thinks Russia is the pinnacle example of advocating for "human rights".. ah hell, I will anyway..
"Yet even in the face of this historically disproportionate aggression, countries around the world have offered support and asylum. These nations, including Russia, Venezuela, Bolivia, Nicaragua, and Ecuador have my gratitude and respect for being the first to stand against human rights violations carried out by the powerful rather than the powerless. By refusing to compromise their principles in the face of intimidation, they have earned the respect of the world. It is my intention to travel to each of these countries to extend my personal thanks to their people and leaders."
https://wikileaks.org/Statement-by-Edward-Snowden-to.html
Eddie's a bullshitter, too.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,685 posts)I'm not black, and I want that money for food stamps, welfare, UE support, etc. etc. etc...
madashelltoo
(1,698 posts)herding cats
(19,566 posts)And 2% are American Indian.
Suck on that, you racist blowhard!
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)TBF
(32,084 posts)New republican campaign slogan.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Quit using up our oxygen.
JohnnyRingo
(18,638 posts)Though it hardly seems like it's been a full year, it's about that time for the CPAC Convention where Republican wanna-be candidates try to out crazy each other. If this trial balloon is any indication, Paul's speech will be a real barn burner. Maybe venturing into crosses too.
Diclotican
(5,095 posts)tishaLA
I'm as white as it goes - but I would much more prefer "war-money" go to food stamps - and general welfare, not to say rebuilding the infrastructure and rebuild the industry who was the heart of US for so many years - instead of putting it in weapons and wars US will never recover from... I even want US to have Universal Health Care - compatible with what is the norm in most of Europe and in Canada... At least as good as in Canada...
But then - this is just "code-words" for giving black money - or some pre-paid cards who they then "waste" on something like food.... Maybe even some decent meat sometimes, who I understand is a problem for many in GOP, that poor pepole should have the ability of getting a decent meal now and then....
Diclotican
randys1
(16,286 posts)of fixing the insanely lopsided criminal law disparity.
He has that slave owner attitude of doing things for them, but some things they will need to do for themselves like food, etc.
We have a racist problem in America...uh huh
p.s. the reason why people need food stamps, the rich white pricks ought to be grateful those people dont burn their world to the ground
Panich52
(5,829 posts)Yeah. Remember 6 yrs ago when he denied ties to his own racist rag?
I posted piece on him yesterday. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026270132
It's like he's trying to get in the news in a manner that might help tank Rand's WH bid.
JustAnotherGen
(31,856 posts)Said it on another thread - say it again . . .
I am shamelessly for feeding Americans and against war!
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)plea and that was the only thing he ever got right. He was slick enough to sell his
reprehensible and dangerous ideas as a result of the anti war stance. It was
sad to see a percentage of young vets buy his schtick.
Here he is going full throttle and is not bothering to cover his racist viewpoints with
"freedom".
Cha
(297,503 posts)daredtowork
(3,732 posts)SO THE FUCK WHAT????!!!!?
niyad
(113,513 posts)alp227
(32,047 posts)Simple moral issues.
niyad
(113,513 posts)Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)Then again, I have to step back from my keyboard and remind myself that there are like-minded people all over YouTube and the Internet in general, including those who don't know/care that there are lower amounts of blacks than whites on government programs. I have to remind myself that many Republicans and Libertarians still believe this lie. We're in the 21st century, but the welfare queen-caliber rhetoric is still a thing. We have a long way to go before RWers face repercussions (within their own party) for participating in this type of hate speech.
alp227
(32,047 posts)Lee Atwater, of Willie Horton ad fame:
And Pres. Lyndon Johnson:
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)(just a recommendation for political strategy)
My father holds view incredible different than mine (he once posted a mention of how many Marines died over a course of a week or less and asked "were flags flown at half mass" within the context of the Sandy Hook tragedy) but this isn't good for Rand Paul at all.
Guess he could not hide his true colors any longer
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)As is affordable housing, medical care, education, jobs...all better than bombing innocent people.
So to recap, I do not support Ron Paul because I am not an inhuman monster.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)With spending tax-payer money and the government meddling with people 'n stuff.
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catbyte
(34,423 posts)iloveObama12
(421 posts)get this clown TFOHere!
El Shaman
(583 posts)and a 'nasty' human being to top.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/01/ron-paul-newsletter-iowa-caucus-republican?page=1
He always had a softon for folks on food assistance.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,598 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)people using food stamps are black.
Coventina
(27,159 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)tsites
(36 posts)is he talking to Lew Rockwell in the first place. During his own campaign, he tried to distance himself as much as possible from him and claimed that Rockwell was really responsible for the bad stuff in the newsletters bearing his name and not him. I know that they are big buds and share the same slimy ideology, but Lew can't control his tongue in public and he pulls R. Paul along with him if they get together. One would think that he would keep his associations with Rockwell under wraps for the sake of his son's campaign. It just shows the extent of the contempt they have for people.
6000eliot
(5,643 posts)Aren't the racists already going to vote for them?
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arcane1
(38,613 posts)Try learning what you speak of next time, then post!
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arcane1
(38,613 posts)Please present it.
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arcane1
(38,613 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(175,748 posts)* Fuck Ron Paul (Rand, too).
americannightmare
(322 posts)food stamps cost taxpayers a fraction of one month of war!
Turbineguy
(37,361 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)as a source.
Friedersdorf defended Paul up and down, opining that Paul didn't write that stuff. No way, no how.
Sid
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Delmette
(522 posts)That is,the nicest thing I can say about him.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more." Isaiah 2:3-4
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)He lied about his racist newsletters and he named his son after the odious Ayn Rand because he was so much in love with her philosophy of I gots mine screw you.
tclambert
(11,087 posts)Last edited Wed Feb 25, 2015, 10:45 PM - Edit history (1)
According to the Rudy Rule.
Beartracks
(12,821 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Bartlet
(172 posts)racist asshole he is.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)McKim
(2,412 posts)Unbelievable! Yes, I want people to have food for free if they don't have jobs, it's called having a civilization. What is wrong with this guy?
Cha
(297,503 posts)NBachers
(17,133 posts)NOLALady
(4,003 posts)a Congressional White Caucus should also want Americans to have food, since there are more white Americans who need food assistance.
LibGranny
(711 posts)(oh, and racist too)
gopiscrap
(23,763 posts)But he's got it right in one respect. I too opposed the war so people could get food stamps, housing, health and our infrastructure could be repaired, better education...the list goes on but in the reference he used it, he's a fucking douchebag!!
MADem
(135,425 posts)What was it that EarlG said about that fellow?
midnight
(26,624 posts)war and death affirming supplies.
Lithos
(26,403 posts)A RACIST
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)Whoever could yell "N_ _ _ _r" the loudest would win the election.