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Keystone BIll is vetoed (message from the Pres to Senate just now) (Original Post) lamp_shade Feb 2015 OP
Nice job, Mr. President. nt. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #1
ALL RIGHT! CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2015 #2
I would have dropped the pen after vetoing. Yavin4 Feb 2015 #3
I believe Obama is actually vetoing Congress' attempt to okay the Keystone pipeline, djean111 Feb 2015 #4
don't let the facts get in the way of a celebration DrDan Feb 2015 #19
Even Obama's statement on this just is that Congress cannot usurp his djean111 Feb 2015 #20
and listening comprehension as well . . . OP claims to have listened to the event as it happened DrDan Feb 2015 #22
Good. Now will all those who hated on him for allegedly making it a done deal please check in.... Hekate Feb 2015 #5
Don't hold your breath. First one I read today was a 'yeah, but...' freshwest Feb 2015 #16
Obama just is saying that Congress cannot make that decision. djean111 Feb 2015 #21
Uh huh. Hekate Feb 2015 #23
Uh-huh - what? He just is saying Congress has no authority. djean111 Feb 2015 #24
Good news! Dont call me Shirley Feb 2015 #6
Then on to chained-CPI!!!1 tridim Feb 2015 #9
Then that SSD "crisis" Boner and cohorts are planning. Dont call me Shirley Feb 2015 #15
Give with 1 hand, and then take away with the other hand (TPP) blkmusclmachine Feb 2015 #7
??? BlueCaliDem Feb 2015 #11
And so this is what you are going to post in every thread about the President's veto? blue neen Feb 2015 #18
And yet again: blue neen Feb 2015 #25
admittedly, pleasantly surprised! Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #8
Thank you Mr. President Praek3 Feb 2015 #10
So...do the Senators who got $250k from the Oil and Gas lobbyist have to return the money? BlueCaliDem Feb 2015 #12
Dem in the WH--yes there is a difference uhnope Feb 2015 #13
Got that right! The GOP took a big hit on this one... And should. freshwest Feb 2015 #17
So who gets to mop up the exploded heads of McConnell and Boehner? eom Cleita Feb 2015 #14
Great lamp_shade.. here it is written out! Cha Feb 2015 #26
Nicely put Hekate Feb 2015 #27
Si! Cha Feb 2015 #28
Thanks. Cha! freshwest Feb 2015 #29
You're Welcome, fresh~ and, Thanks to King Obama! Cha Feb 2015 #30
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
4. I believe Obama is actually vetoing Congress' attempt to okay the Keystone pipeline,
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 04:34 PM
Feb 2015

not giving the pipeline a thumbs' down, himself. He is vetoing Congress' attempt to usurp his powers.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
20. Even Obama's statement on this just is that Congress cannot usurp his
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 07:38 PM
Feb 2015

authority. NOTHING about the actual pipeline decision.
Reading comprehension problem, I guess.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
22. and listening comprehension as well . . . OP claims to have listened to the event as it happened
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 07:40 PM
Feb 2015

Hekate

(90,768 posts)
5. Good. Now will all those who hated on him for allegedly making it a done deal please check in....
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 04:37 PM
Feb 2015

....and say something? Like maybe "Sorry we were mistaken"?

I'm not holding my breath, though.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
21. Obama just is saying that Congress cannot make that decision.
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 07:40 PM
Feb 2015

He may yet say no to the pipeline, but that is not what he vetoed.
Oh, and I think the TPP is a MUCH worse thing than the pipeline. And the pipeline is bad.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
24. Uh-huh - what? He just is saying Congress has no authority.
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 07:51 PM
Feb 2015
TO THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES:

I am returning herewith without my approval S. 1, the "Keystone XL Pipeline Approval Act." Through this bill, the United States Congress attempts to circumvent longstanding and proven processes for determining whether or not building and operating a cross-border pipeline serves the national interest.

The Presidential power to veto legislation is one I take seriously. But I also take seriously my responsibility to the American people. And because this act of Congress conflicts with established executive branch procedures and cuts short thorough consideration of issues that could bear on our national interest -- including our security, safety, and environment -- it has earned my veto.

BARACK OBAMA


Hopefully he will say no, eventually, and then, you know what? I don't care about the jeers, I just care about avoiding pollution.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
9. Then on to chained-CPI!!!1
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 04:57 PM
Feb 2015

Oh wait.

Eventually you folks are going to have to admit it, Obama is on our side every time.

The proof? History, and Manny being wrong about EVERYTHING since 2007.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
12. So...do the Senators who got $250k from the Oil and Gas lobbyist have to return the money?
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 06:03 PM
Feb 2015
The oil and gas industry gave nearly $250,000 to each of the 62 senators who voted in favor of the controversial Keystone XL pipeline project late last month, according to MapLight, a nonpartisan research organization that tracks the influence of money in politics. The revelations come as the House of Representatives is set to vote on and expected to pass the Senate legislation Wednesday that would approve the pipeline and start transferring oil in western Canada to refineries on the Gulf Coast. President Barack Obama has threatened to veto the project on a number of grounds, including environmental concerns.

The oil and gas industry, which stands to benefit from the Keystone XL pipeline, gave $236,544 on average to the senators who voted yes on Keystone, or about 10 times more than the senators who voted no. The 36 senators against the pipeline received about $22,882 apiece in campaign contributions from the oil and gas industry. There was no data on contributions to House members.

Sen. John Hoeven, R-N.D., the sponsor of the Keystone Senate bill, received about $275,000 from the industry, according to MapLight, but he wasn’t the biggest beneficiary of oil and gas industry money in the Senate. That distinction goes to Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, who has received more than $1 million from the industry, which is important to Texas. The Democratic co-sponsor of the Keystone bill, Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia, received about $200,000 from the industry -- the biggest beneficiary of oil and gas money among Democrats. But there were 24 Republicans who got larger contributions from the industry than him.
http://www.ibtimes.com/keystone-xl-pipeline-project-vote-oil-gas-industry-gave-250k-senators-who-voted-yes-1812594
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