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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKeystone BIll is vetoed (message from the Pres to Senate just now)
I watched it being read on the senate floor.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,678 posts)Yavin4
(35,445 posts)Then again that's why I'm not president.
djean111
(14,255 posts)not giving the pipeline a thumbs' down, himself. He is vetoing Congress' attempt to usurp his powers.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)authority. NOTHING about the actual pipeline decision.
Reading comprehension problem, I guess.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)Hekate
(90,768 posts)....and say something? Like maybe "Sorry we were mistaken"?
I'm not holding my breath, though.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)He may yet say no to the pipeline, but that is not what he vetoed.
Oh, and I think the TPP is a MUCH worse thing than the pipeline. And the pipeline is bad.
djean111
(14,255 posts)TO THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES:
I am returning herewith without my approval S. 1, the "Keystone XL Pipeline Approval Act." Through this bill, the United States Congress attempts to circumvent longstanding and proven processes for determining whether or not building and operating a cross-border pipeline serves the national interest.
The Presidential power to veto legislation is one I take seriously. But I also take seriously my responsibility to the American people. And because this act of Congress conflicts with established executive branch procedures and cuts short thorough consideration of issues that could bear on our national interest -- including our security, safety, and environment -- it has earned my veto.
BARACK OBAMA
Hopefully he will say no, eventually, and then, you know what? I don't care about the jeers, I just care about avoiding pollution.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Now to stop TPP and TIPP
tridim
(45,358 posts)Oh wait.
Eventually you folks are going to have to admit it, Obama is on our side every time.
The proof? History, and Manny being wrong about EVERYTHING since 2007.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)blue neen
(12,327 posts)blue neen
(12,327 posts)Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)Praek3
(149 posts)Again, the pen is mightier than the sword.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)The oil and gas industry, which stands to benefit from the Keystone XL pipeline, gave $236,544 on average to the senators who voted yes on Keystone, or about 10 times more than the senators who voted no. The 36 senators against the pipeline received about $22,882 apiece in campaign contributions from the oil and gas industry. There was no data on contributions to House members.
Sen. John Hoeven, R-N.D., the sponsor of the Keystone Senate bill, received about $275,000 from the industry, according to MapLight, but he wasnt the biggest beneficiary of oil and gas industry money in the Senate. That distinction goes to Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, who has received more than $1 million from the industry, which is important to Texas. The Democratic co-sponsor of the Keystone bill, Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia, received about $200,000 from the industry -- the biggest beneficiary of oil and gas money among Democrats. But there were 24 Republicans who got larger contributions from the industry than him.
http://www.ibtimes.com/keystone-xl-pipeline-project-vote-oil-gas-industry-gave-250k-senators-who-voted-yes-1812594
uhnope
(6,419 posts)yet another example
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)Cha
(297,486 posts)Mahalo
freshwest
(53,661 posts)The RWNJs have decried it as proof Obama is 'a fringe leftwinger!'