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Behind the Aegis

(53,973 posts)
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 03:08 AM Feb 2015

Survey finds high rates of anti-Semitism on college campuses

More than half of 1,157 Jewish students surveyed at 55 college campuses in the U.S. reported being subjected to or witnessing anti-Semitism at their schools, according to a new study conducted by Trinity College and the Louis D. Brandeis Center for Human Rights Under Law.

The report, titled The National Demographic Survey of American Jewish College Students, was conducted in the spring of 2014 by a research team from Trinity College in Connecticut. The rates of victimization ranged depending on the campus, major, religiosity and other factors.

The survey was conducted in March and April 2014.

In the South, 70 percent of Jewish college students surveyed reported anti-Semitism at public schools, while 48 percent reported incidents at private schools. Still, the overall rates showed only a slight variation according to region, the report said, suggesting anti-Semitism is a nationwide problem.

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I experienced it at the university I attended, and the ones where I worked. I was the "victim" at all three universities, but I was more 'victimized' for being gay, than Jewish.

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Survey finds high rates of anti-Semitism on college campuses (Original Post) Behind the Aegis Feb 2015 OP
I am surprised, i would have thought it would be lower in the younger people Marrah_G Feb 2015 #1
I am not. Behind the Aegis Feb 2015 #2
Very sad shenmue Feb 2015 #3
That's my impression, too. Exhibit A Feb 2015 #4
BDS is very trendy on college campuses. hack89 Feb 2015 #10
BDS has nothing to do with anti-Semitism. It's too bad we can't talk about the real problem of DanTex Feb 2015 #12
Right. nt hack89 Feb 2015 #13
shocking report azurnoir Feb 2015 #5
Not surprised at all leftynyc Feb 2015 #6
Unable or unwilling? Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #7
We both know the answer leftynyc Feb 2015 #8
There is plenty of Islamophobia on DU also. Some of it overt. DanTex Feb 2015 #14
I have noticed the broad brush HappyMe Feb 2015 #15
Perhaps you can point leftynyc Feb 2015 #16
Umm, says the person who diverted the thread with a discussion of how Islam-friendly DU is... DanTex Feb 2015 #17
That you don't think BDS leftynyc Feb 2015 #18
I think talking about anti-Semitism is worthwhile. I think any claim that DU is Islam-friendly DanTex Feb 2015 #19
Uh -no leftynyc Feb 2015 #20
Making the precise mistake you accuse others of. DanTex Feb 2015 #21
Then explain this leftynyc Feb 2015 #22
Of course, the whole BDS movement is responsible for these nutjobs. DanTex Feb 2015 #23
It would have been nice leftynyc Feb 2015 #24
Yes, and every time an obscure Muslim (or Jewish, or whatever) student group says something dumb, DanTex Feb 2015 #26
Sigh leftynyc Feb 2015 #27
Again, *you* were the one who introduced Islam into the discussion. DanTex Feb 2015 #32
Why do you keep on denying that there have been posts at DU broadbrushing Muslims? Violet_Crumble Feb 2015 #41
Where did I say leftynyc Feb 2015 #42
There's plenty of broadbrushing posts been left standing. Violet_Crumble Feb 2015 #45
I think far too many leftynyc Feb 2015 #50
It looks like his/her point is that there aren't enough threads broadbrushing Muslims. DanTex Feb 2015 #48
And here we go again leftynyc Feb 2015 #28
Yes, and I could make a post about horrific things that Chrisians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, etc have DanTex Feb 2015 #35
You can pretend leftynyc Feb 2015 #36
I'm not sure how much more clearly I can put this. DanTex Feb 2015 #39
YOU think it misses the point leftynyc Feb 2015 #40
Yr comments about Muslims remind me of some who broadbrush Jews... Violet_Crumble Feb 2015 #43
Totally unresponsive to my leftynyc Feb 2015 #49
The point isn't the severity of ISIS crimes. DanTex Feb 2015 #44
Considering the subject of this thread and your assertions about anti Islamic bias being a huge Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #51
I agree completely. There is bigotry against many groups. And it goes way beyond just hate crimes. DanTex Feb 2015 #54
Sometimes that bigotry gets a pass. Behind the Aegis Feb 2015 #57
Let me show you who derailed this thread with comments about Islam and Israel. DanTex Feb 2015 #58
Very well put DanTex. 2banon Feb 2015 #56
It is more common than many think. Behind the Aegis Feb 2015 #37
The ones dying off leftynyc Feb 2015 #38
I was going to tell you about the NYC cab story... Behind the Aegis Feb 2015 #53
And I see leftynyc Feb 2015 #55
Talking to a Prof at a local Ivy League school which is considered very liberal, she told me they GreatGazoo Feb 2015 #9
Southern Baptist church is anti gay and against equal rights for women Fumesucker Feb 2015 #46
This is what happened fairly recently at Oxford University LeftishBrit Feb 2015 #11
I would be more interested in attitudes than incidents. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #25
That would be interesting. Behind the Aegis Feb 2015 #29
Not the attitudes of the perps but attitudes towards Jews in general./NT DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #30
Check out the ADL survey on Global Anti-Semitism. Behind the Aegis Feb 2015 #31
I saw it...I noticed the Philippines had the least anti-semites. That's interesting./NT DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #33
Yeah, there were a few surprises in that survey. Behind the Aegis Feb 2015 #34
It depends on what is termed "anti-Semitism". Hostility towards Israel and its Likud policies KittyWampus Feb 2015 #47
Agreed. A lot of needless arguments arise from this type of mistake. nt procon Feb 2015 #52

Exhibit A

(318 posts)
4. That's my impression, too.
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 05:19 AM
Feb 2015

It's getting worse. Hopefully, it will turn out to be a matter of young people questioning the values of earlier generations and eventually they'll come around. I know I experimented with some ideas as a young adult that I later rejected when I had more education and life experience.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
10. BDS is very trendy on college campuses.
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 10:17 AM
Feb 2015

when you start looking at complex situations as good vs evil it is only natural to label the groups involved as good or evil.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
12. BDS has nothing to do with anti-Semitism. It's too bad we can't talk about the real problem of
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 10:40 AM
Feb 2015

anti-Semitism without people trying to turn it into an apology for Israeli crimes.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
5. shocking report
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 05:48 AM
Feb 2015

especially the part in the the PDF of the reprt itself that states antisemitism on collage campus's is a bit worse in the US than in the UK page 8

http://www.brandeiscenter.com/images/uploads/articleuploads/trinity-Anti-Semitism.pdf



 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
6. Not surprised at all
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 06:05 AM
Feb 2015

With even people here, on this board, seemingly unable to separate the Israeli Jews from all Jews, what do you expect? If anyone here said it was understandable that Muslims everywhere were held to account for the actions of Saudi Arabia or Syria, others would burn the place down.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
14. There is plenty of Islamophobia on DU also. Some of it overt.
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 10:46 AM
Feb 2015

The tendency to blame all members of a group for the actions of some members of the group is unfortunately something that DU hasn't been able to overcome.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
16. Perhaps you can point
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 10:52 AM
Feb 2015

out where anyone said there wasn't but in the meantime, once again a thread specifically about antisemitism has been deflected to something else. How pathetically predictable.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
17. Umm, says the person who diverted the thread with a discussion of how Islam-friendly DU is...
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 10:55 AM
Feb 2015

If you scroll up a bit, you'll find another attempt at diversion by dragging BDS into the discussion. I'm anxiously awaiting your protestation.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
18. That you don't think BDS
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 10:59 AM
Feb 2015

is directly tied to antisemitism is your problem and seriously? You don't think talking about antisemitism that exists right here is related to the topic of antisemitism? Whatever.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
19. I think talking about anti-Semitism is worthwhile. I think any claim that DU is Islam-friendly
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 11:02 AM
Feb 2015

is worthy of being rebutted. And I don't think that BDS or for that matter any other criticism of Israeli policy is antisemitic. Just two posts ago, you were (rightfully) bemoaning the fact that people don't distinguish between Israeli policy and Judaism in general. And now here you are, calling critics of Israel anti-Semitic.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
20. Uh -no
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 11:06 AM
Feb 2015

I'm calling the BDS movement antisemitic. I criticize Israel and the repulsive bibi all the time. On the other topic, I've watched - over the last 13 years - how Christianity and to a lesser extent Judaism can get trashed all day long here and nobody says a thing. Every single thread about anything having to do with Islam or Muslims directly gets (usually within the first 10 comments) into a deflection parade about how the US is worse, how Israel is worse. I've commented on it for years now and am surprised you have missed it.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
21. Making the precise mistake you accuse others of.
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 11:22 AM
Feb 2015

The BDS movement is about boycotting Israel in response to the Israeli policy of occupation. How this has anything to do with anti-semitism, unless you are linking Israeli policy with Judaism, is beyond me.

And thank you for clarifying the fact that you think DU is too Islam-friendly. Yes, I have noticed that this is one of your big talking points on DU. Sometimes I wonder how anti-Islam DU would have to be in order to satisfy you.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
22. Then explain this
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 12:05 PM
Feb 2015
http://tabletmag.com/scroll/188961/israel-boycott-activists-call-for-jews-to-be-expelled-from-south-african-university

if it has nothing to do with Jews in general and not Israel at all.

If you don't see that Islam - as a religion - gets a special pass on DU, I can't help the fact you refuse to see what's right in front of your face.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
23. Of course, the whole BDS movement is responsible for these nutjobs.
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 12:14 PM
Feb 2015

Based on the well-established principle that all members of a group are responsible for the things that any members of the group do. That seems to be the unifying theme behind your beliefs.

Special pass, huh. Why, no I do not think so, I think that Islam is harshly criticized on DU. But I am kind of curious. A "special pass" for what exactly? What is it that Islam has done that you think they need a "special pass" to be excused from? What kinds of discussions would you like to see that don't happen because of this "special pass"?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
24. It would have been nice
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 12:18 PM
Feb 2015

if even one person in the BDS movement had decried that action. No - it had to come from the Jews themselves.

And by special pass, I already explained that. Every single thread - EVERY SINGLE ONE - about anything having to do with Muslims or Islam gets IMMEDIATELY derailed into "the US is worse", "Israel is worse", "Christians are worse" - that NEVER happens when the subject is about Christians or Jews or Buddhists or anyone but Muslims. This place hasn't had an honest discussion about what's going on with Islam today EVER. Not one.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
26. Yes, and every time an obscure Muslim (or Jewish, or whatever) student group says something dumb,
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 12:35 PM
Feb 2015

I assume you think the "good Muslims" are responsible if they don't immediately condemn it. Obviously.

I'm quite sure almost all BDS people and most critics of Israel in general are just as disgusted as you and I with the idea of kicking Jews out of a university.

Hmm, so what do you think an "honest discussion about what's going on with Islam today" would entail. You must be aware of how creepy that sounds. How about "an honest discussion about what's going on with Judaism today". Ick. "An honest discussion of what's going on with homosexuality today." Puke.

I happen to think it's a good thing when Islamophobic posts are immediately rebutted by people pointing out the fallacy of blaming all Muslims for the actions of the few. Particularly since Muslims are one of the most persecuted groups in America today. I mean, if some nut said that Muslims should be kicked out of some university, it wouldn't even make the evening news.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
27. Sigh
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 12:51 PM
Feb 2015

This is getting boring but I'll give it one last try seeing as you have completely proved my point by having this entire thread deflect from the original topic. You don't think there is a problem with the way Islam has been perverted by isis? That young British women leave a western country so they can join a group that will sell them into slavery or turn them over to be raped by whoever? That 8000 ancient manuscripts were destroyed for being "against Islam"? None of that bother you or is that it's too "creepy" if we talk about it? And nobody here has tagged all Muslims with isis so that strawman is an embarrassment.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
32. Again, *you* were the one who introduced Islam into the discussion.
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 01:02 PM
Feb 2015

If you don't want the thread to be diverted, don't start making posts about how there's not enough anti-Islam sentiment on DU.

It's funny, I click on this thread to read about rising anti-semitism in the US, something that has more been associated with Europe recently. Then I get here and I find one response suggesting that critics of Israeli policy are anti-semitic, and another complaining that there isn't enough criticism of Islam. And now I'm being accused of derailing the thread from its original topic.

To answer your question, yes I have a huge problem with ISIS. I also have a problem with anti-abortion terrorists. I have a big problem with the Israeli occupation. I don't have a problem with Islam, Christianity, or Judaism.

Oh, and since I know what comes next: yes, I have a bigger problem with ISIS than with anti-abortionists or Israel.

Violet_Crumble

(35,976 posts)
41. Why do you keep on denying that there have been posts at DU broadbrushing Muslims?
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 09:07 AM
Feb 2015

It's kind of like if someone were to go round insisting that there's no anti-Semitism at DU.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
42. Where did I say
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 09:11 AM
Feb 2015

it didn't exist? Any post I've seen that broadbrushes is quickly hidden so for all we know, trolls are trying to make trouble. Do you think the majority of DUers are Islamophobes?

Violet_Crumble

(35,976 posts)
45. There's plenty of broadbrushing posts been left standing.
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 09:14 AM
Feb 2015

You appeared to be saying they didn't exist. Now it's they exist but they get hidden?

No, do you think the majority of DUers are anti-semites?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
50. I think far too many
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 11:41 AM
Feb 2015

let their anti-Israel feelings infect their feelings about Jews in general. A majority? No idea - I never counted.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
48. It looks like his/her point is that there aren't enough threads broadbrushing Muslims.
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 09:42 AM
Feb 2015

And that those annoying liberals keep interrupting the Islamophobic threads by pointing out that holding all Muslims to account for the actions of ISIS is bigotry.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
28. And here we go again
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 12:54 PM
Feb 2015

Just posted. Keep telling yourself there is no problem today with Islam:

http://www.ibtimes.com/saudi-arabia-apostasy-case-man-renounces-muslim-faith-video-sentenced-death-saudi-1826152

A Saudi court has sentenced a man to death for renouncing his Muslim faith and other blasphemy charges, according to a Saudi Gazette report cited by Reuters Tuesday. The offender had posted a video online showing himself defacing the Quran and hitting it with a shoe, a grave insult and a crime in the kingdom, which follows a strict interpretation of Islam.


Or take a look at this Pew Poll and see just how many think sharia law should be the law of their land:

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/

You can continue to pretend it's isolated cases but you'd only be putting your head in the sand.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
35. Yes, and I could make a post about horrific things that Chrisians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, etc have
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 01:10 PM
Feb 2015

done or are doing in the name of religion. I could also point you to verses in the Bible that are just as horrific as anything in the Koran. And so on. I'm not going to do it, first because you also know that I could and so does anyone else, but more importantly it would place me in the position of arguing "Christians and Jews and Hindus are bad too!" whereas what I actually believe is that they are not bad, nor is Islam, despite the fact that there are bad people using these faiths for evil ends.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
36. You can pretend
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 01:58 PM
Feb 2015

all those overwhelming majorities that want sharia law - and think thieves should have their hands cut off and people should be stoned to death for leaving Islam is nothing to concern yourself with but those numbers are pretty fucking scary to anyone paying attention. It appears you want to pretend it's just isis that feels that way. That Pew poll shows how wrong you are.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
39. I'm not sure how much more clearly I can put this.
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 08:41 AM
Feb 2015

If someone pointed out that the one Jewish nation in the world is committing war crimes regularly, that a huge majority of its Jewish citizens support these war crimes, and then drew the conclusion that we need to have a "serious conversation about Judiasm," I'm pretty sure you would be up in arms about that. And for very good reason.

And, again, since I know what your answer invariably is, yes, what ISIS (or Syria or whoever) does is obviously worse than what Israel does. Which, again, completely misses the point.

And finally, I'll point out, yet again, the person who brought up Islam in this thread was you. And I still don't understand why. It's not a competition between Islamophobia and antisemitism. They are both evil prejudices. I could understand if you brought it up in the context of "there are a lot of hateful bigots in this world", but, no, instead the point you made was that Islam gets off easy. Which, given that in the US, Muslims are one of the most discriminated against groups (probably a close second to LBGT), is not just inappropriate but also absurd. It's not Islam that's given a pass, it's Islamophobia. What other persecuted minority can someone get away with saying we need to have a "serious discussion" about?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
40. YOU think it misses the point
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 08:59 AM
Feb 2015

but that's just your opinion. I think when a group has decided to follow Islam TO THE LETTER and uses it to commit heinous crimes (another 150 Christians rounded up and taken away to be sold as slaves just yesterday), then a conversation needs to be had. You apparently think ignoring it will make it go away. I strongly disagree. We see tens of thousands take to the streets over fucking cartoons - where are these same people when it comes to showing the world isis is perverting their faith - that's seems to be something that would get more people out in the streets than cartoons.

Violet_Crumble

(35,976 posts)
43. Yr comments about Muslims remind me of some who broadbrush Jews...
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 09:12 AM
Feb 2015

When it comes to Jews it's stuff like Stern Gang, settlements, bombing Gaza being connected with Jews in general.

When it comes to Muslims it's stuff like ISIS, riots in developing countries, fucking cartoons being connected with Muslims in general.

Both attitudes reek to high heaven.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
44. The point isn't the severity of ISIS crimes.
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 09:13 AM
Feb 2015

Nobody's disputing that. Nor the fact that following a religion to the letter is truly dangerous (take a peek at the Old Testament if you doubt this). Following religion to the letter has and continues to cause problems all over the world. For example, wouldn't it be great if the Temple Mount and Al-Aqsa Mosque didn't have to be located in exactly the same place?

The problem comes when you say things like "we need to have a serious discussion about Islam" in light of the fact that Islamophobia is one of if not the strongest forms of discrimination in America today. Again, would you not object if someone said "we need to have a serious discussion about Judaism"? Of course you would. And so would I.

That doesn't mean we don't need to have a serious discussion about ISIS, or about Israeli war crimes (which, once again, are obviously not as bad as what ISIS is doing).

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
51. Considering the subject of this thread and your assertions about anti Islamic bias being a huge
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 12:28 PM
Feb 2015

problem in America, I can't help but think about the FBI's Hate Crimes Statistics. I doubt you are familiar with them, as you don't seem to belong to a community subject to frequent bias crimes. I belong to such a community, so I tend to know about these things. Let's grant that bias toward the Islamic faith of the victim is a great and terrible problem consuming the us, then look at the figures from 2013, the most recent year for which the FBI has statistics.
An analysis of data for victims of single-bias hate crime incidents showed that:

49.3 percent of the victims were targeted because of the offenders’ bias against race.
20.2 percent were targeted because of bias against sexual orientation.
16.9 percent were victimized because of bias against religion.
11.4 percent were victimized because of bias against ethnicity

Of the 1,223 victims of anti-religious hate crimes:

60.3 percent were victims of crimes motivated by their offenders’ anti-Jewish bias.
13.7 percent were victims of anti-Islamic (Muslim) bias.
6.1 percent were victims of anti-Catholic bias.
4.3 percent were victims of bias against groups of individuals of varying religions (anti-multiple religions, group).
3.8 percent were victims of anti-Protestant bias.
0.6 percent were victims of anti-Atheist/Agnostic bias.
11.2 percent were victims of bias against other religions (anti-other religion). (Based on Table 1.)


So while advocacy for any group is admirable, issues of hate crime and discrimination are not exclusive to any one group and thus those who oppose bigotry and hate crimes and discrimination should speak out strongly and loudly against bigotry and hate crimes and discrimination no matter who is the victim and also no matter who is the criminal. Those who are selective in opposition to such attitudes and crimes are not really opposing the attitudes and crimes.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2013/topic-pages/victims/victims_final

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
54. I agree completely. There is bigotry against many groups. And it goes way beyond just hate crimes.
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 01:29 PM
Feb 2015

There is all sorts of discrimination. The anti-Semitic actions described in this OP, for example, probably don't rise to the level of hate crimes, but that doesn't mean they aren't despicable.

Which is why I objected to a DUer complaining that Islam "gets a free pass" on DU. I think it's a good thing that DU resists the rampant Islamophobia in the mainstream media.

Behind the Aegis

(53,973 posts)
57. Sometimes that bigotry gets a pass.
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 01:29 AM
Feb 2015

Just as you are taking issue with your concern, it never ceases to amaze that almost every time anti-Semitism is the topic, it is derailed into comments about Islamophobia or Israel. Why do you suppose that is? Why do you suppose that people give the cursory "oh, that's bad, but..." when the topic is about discrimination or hate against Jews?

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
58. Let me show you who derailed this thread with comments about Islam and Israel.
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 08:50 AM
Feb 2015
With even people here, on this board, seemingly unable to separate the Israeli Jews from all Jews, what do you expect? If anyone here said it was understandable that Muslims everywhere were held to account for the actions of Saudi Arabia or Syria, others would burn the place down.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6270831

BDS is very trendy on college campuses.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6271420

Please, if you want to find out why this thread got derailed, you should take it up with leftynyc and hack89.

I have no earthly idea why anyone would think that a thread about antisemitism is a good place to start talking about how Islam-friendly DU is, how Islam gets, and I quote "a special pass." Even more ironically, leftynyc repeatedly complained and insinuated that I was the one who derailed this thread, when it is plainly obvious that it was he/she who did just that in order to forward an anti-Islam agenda.

I also have no earthly idea why anyone would take a thread about antisemitism and decide to take this opportunity to link it to critics of the Israeli occupation.

You ask, "why to I suppose that is?" I can only speculate. But my guess is people are trying take something -- antisemitism -- that everyone agrees is horrible, and attempt to link it to more controversial topics. But that's just my guess. If you really want to know, you are going to have to ask the people who did the derailing.
 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
56. Very well put DanTex.
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 02:11 PM
Feb 2015

Additionally, I think an analysis/discussion on the basis of perceptions of antisemitism (vs actual) is largely lacking in the context when these charges are ultimately brought..

I believe that policy matters and ethnicity and/or religious affiliations need to be separated in these discussions in my opinion but unfortunately it is too often intertwined - so maybe it's just not possible, especially given that to criticize inhumane policy is to criticize the people that support inhumane policies. And if that number is the majority, well then.. that's a serious problem with quite an undesirable effect and so naturally, logically, there will be a negative attitude towards the group of people/nation that does harm to another.




Behind the Aegis

(53,973 posts)
37. It is more common than many think.
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 01:41 AM
Feb 2015

What I have found so surprising is the return or uptick in "classic" anti-Semitism. To me, that is very surprising. I am also not in the least bit surprised by the anti-Semitism being higher in younger people; I have seen more than a few examples. It goes to show the classic "wait for the old people to die off" is just a denial tactic.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
38. The ones dying off
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 06:30 AM
Feb 2015

have already infected their children. Living in NY awards me a certain comfort - so many fellow Jews around - not like living in places that joke they have enough for a minion and 2 alternates.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
55. And I see
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 01:48 PM
Feb 2015

the usual culprit is completely LYING about it. You would think an honest adult would not only admit his mistake but would delete the comment where he made it to stop any confusion but noooooooo - that would take grace and good manners.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
9. Talking to a Prof at a local Ivy League school which is considered very liberal, she told me they
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 10:03 AM
Feb 2015

are trying to get more diversity in their undergrads. They have given scholarships to several African American students only to have them withdraw during their first year. In the exit interviews they found that the prejudice the students confronted was not over race but rather their religious (Southern Baptist) practices.

Sorry to hear of your experiences. I worked in some temp positions year ago and the only people who gave me a hard time were people who were miserable in their job, their life or their work environment. Miserable people give themselves permission to behave horribly.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
46. Southern Baptist church is anti gay and against equal rights for women
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 09:21 AM
Feb 2015

Jimmy Carter rather famously left the Southern Baptist church over their support for bigotry.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95311

Former President Carter, a longtime Sunday school teacher, is walking away from the Southern Baptists because of the church’s stance on equality for women.

In an interview with the Atlanta Journal-Constitution published today, Carter says Southern Baptist leaders reading the Bible out of context led to the adoption of increasingly “rigid” views.

“I’m familiar with the verses they have quoted about wives being subjugated to their husbands,” he told the paper. “In my opinion, this is a distortion of the meaning of Scripture. … I personally feel the Bible says all people are equal in the eyes of God. I personally feel that women should play an absolutely equal role in service of Christ in the church.”

LeftishBrit

(41,208 posts)
11. This is what happened fairly recently at Oxford University
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 10:29 AM
Feb 2015
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/8870909/Oxford-Tories-nights-of-port-and-Nazi-songs.html


I wouldn't say that anti-Semitism was the biggest prejudice on British university campuses (misogyny is more prevalent IMO, despite a majority of students now being women); but it certainly keeps rearing its ugly head.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
25. I would be more interested in attitudes than incidents.
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 12:20 PM
Feb 2015

I have even heard anti-semitic comments by professors while relatively benign they should know better. One professor I knew called American University (AU) , A Jew, and waxed about Jewish American Princesses (JAPS) being driven to campus in limos. Another professor called The New Republic magazine The Jew Republic because a lot of the writers and owners were Jewish.

The notion that anti-semitism, even here, is a relic of the old world is inane.

Behind the Aegis

(53,973 posts)
29. That would be interesting.
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 12:58 PM
Feb 2015

However, that would require interview the perpetrators not the victims/witnesses. Take a look at this thread, or just about any thread where anti-Semitism is the topic, and one thing is almost always displayed...subject change. They make it about something else, and leave the discussion of anti-Semitism as a footnote. Of course, you also get comments like this:

I find it hard to believe that there is any aspect of "anti-Semitism" that is not talked about endlessly, with or without adequate provocation.


Seems to me discovering the attitude behind that statement isn't difficult.

Behind the Aegis

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31. Check out the ADL survey on Global Anti-Semitism.
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 01:01 PM
Feb 2015

It breaks it down by stereotype. That would fall under "attitude" IMO.

 

KittyWampus

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47. It depends on what is termed "anti-Semitism". Hostility towards Israel and its Likud policies
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 09:29 AM
Feb 2015

and its treatment of Palestinians and its illegal seizure of Palestinian territory isn't anti-Semitism.

Annoyance with people who support the far-right tendencies of Israel also isn't anti-Semitism.

Unfortunately, even on DU it's hard for some people to differentiate between Israel, Israeli far-right policies, Israeli citizens and Jews.


Perhaps the crappy economic outlook is a part of the equation. Got to blame somebody. And the old Birch Society and its milking of tribal prejudices seems to become more and more mainstream. THANKS, FOX News.

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