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pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 09:21 PM Feb 2015

When all airplane flights STUNK. Literally.

I think we have flight attendants to thank for cleaner indoor air in many places today.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/24/business/what-airlines-were-like-before-the-smoke-cleared.html?smid=fb-share

Tracy Sear, a flight attendant with US Airways, was looking over some Facebook posts from colleagues recalling those bad old days when a third or more of passengers on any flight puffed away, and cabins were foul with smoke. When I spoke with her the other day, she read one of those posts to me: “Suitcases, uniforms, hair — all stunk from cigarette smoke. And it’s astounding that we didn’t have more cabin fires.”

It’s probably difficult for anyone who isn’t middle-aged or older to comprehend, but people could smoke cigarettes on airplanes until Feb. 25, 1990. That’s when the federal government, after years of pressure from a union, the Association of Flight Attendants, finally banned smoking on all but a handful of domestic flights over six hours in duration. Ten years later, smoking was prohibited on flights between the United States and foreign destinations. Today, virtually every commercial flight in the world is smoke-free.

Ms. Sear’s first flying job was as a flight attendant from 1968 to 1979 with Pacific Southwest Airlines, which merged into a predecessor of US Airways in the late 1980s. PSA, as it was known, marketed itself as the “World’s Friendliest Airline” and outfitted its stewardesses (as they were then called) in miniskirts and go-go boots during the late 1960s.

“Then we transitioned from wool skirts to polyester hot pants, which added a whole new dimension to the smoking issue,” she said, explaining: “Passengers would have their elbows on the armrest and then plop their hand out into the aisle with a lighted cigarette in it. So we would have to try to dodge it. In a wool dress, it was less of an issue because you could brush off the ash, but when PSA went to polyester hot pants you’d often get a cigarette burn hole on your pantyhose, and you were lucky not to get a more severe burn on your leg.”

SNIP

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Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
1. I'll still trade for that era of air travel for today in a heartbeat
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 09:24 PM
Feb 2015

and I'm allergic to secondhand smoke...

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
2. I wouldn't.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 09:34 PM
Feb 2015

I've been a frequent business traveler since those smoking days and nothing could get me back on a smoking plane again.

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Hekate

(90,769 posts)
6. As a child I remember seeing hot cigarette butts on sidewalks and the linoleum floors of stores
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 09:46 PM
Feb 2015

I don't know why department stores didn't ban cigarettes because of damage to merchandise, but they accommodated by having tall ashtrays everywhere.

And then times changed. Hallelujah.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
5. I flew back and forth between law school and home
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 09:45 PM
Feb 2015

regularly from 1985-88. My dearest wish was that they'd put the screaming children and the smokers in one blocked off section of the airplane and see which group killed each other first. Though apart from that the atmosphere and leg room on planes were much better then than now. All an airplane is now is a flying cattle car.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,806 posts)
8. One down side to prohibiting smoking on airplanes
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 09:49 PM
Feb 2015

(the only one, I think), is that it became a bit more difficult for the mechanics to locate pressurization leaks. In the bad old days when smoking was allowed, they could easily find leaks by just looking for the brown streaks along the exterior of the fuselage.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
10. I smoked for 22 years...never on an airplane
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 10:08 PM
Feb 2015

It was already banned by the time I started flying regularly.

I can't even imagine how disgusting it would be with a third of passengers smoking. Incredible.

I know from long personal experience on both sides of this: people who smoke have little idea how they and their area actually smells to non-smokers. It's really distinct and pretty bad. I can smell smokers at 10 yards as they walk up the supermarket aisle. I kinda cringe that I had that on me all those years. It's gross.

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