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kpete

(71,996 posts)
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 04:44 PM Feb 2015

OUCH!!! David Corn sends Howard Kurtz A Devasting Note re: His O'Reilly Interview

Last edited Sun Feb 22, 2015, 06:44 PM - Edit history (2)

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https://twitter.com/DavidCornDC/status/569586943710904320

http://www.billoreilly.com/b/TRANSCRIPT:-Bill-DEFENDS-his-war-reporting-with-Howie-Kurtz/-383362269824416867.html

adding:
http://www.motherjones.com/mixed-media/2015/02/cbs-reporter-refutes-oreilly-combat



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UPDATED TO INCLUDE (He is losing it folks):
Bill O'Reilly Goes Ballistic Calls Bob Schieffer A 'Plagiarist'


Kurtz: You have said your photographer was rundown, hit in the head, he was bleeding, the army was chasing you guys, Engberg says, I never heard any injury to the photographer.

O'Reilly: I don't think he was there. I don't think he knows what happened and I'll tell you why If he were in the Plaza Del Mayo, where was the video, why did I have to run it up to the feed point and send it to new York? I’d like everyone to ask him, ‘Were you there?’ because his reputation, his nickname was ‘Room Service Eric,’ because he never left the hotel.

BillO then blasted CBS's Bob Schieffer for "big footing" his story which happens all the time in the news business.

If you write an article and send it in and another reporter put their name on the article, what's that called? it begins with a "p."

Howie refused to respond to O'Reilly's accusations of plagiarism, laughed and called it what it actually was.

Kurtz: I've always called it "big footing" and you're not happy if that happens.

O'Reilly: What is it called in print? it begins with a "p."

Kurtz: I'll let you tell me.

O'Reilly: Plagiarism.

Kurtz: Oh, if it's your colleague and you're working together

O'Reilly:I wasn't working together with these guys.


http://crooksandliars.com/2015/02/bill-oreilly-goes-ballistic-eric-engberg
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OUCH!!! David Corn sends Howard Kurtz A Devasting Note re: His O'Reilly Interview (Original Post) kpete Feb 2015 OP
Time to destroy O'Reilly's fragile hold on sanity tularetom Feb 2015 #1
Fragile hold on sanity? calimary Feb 2015 #9
And they'll never get that horse back in the barn either madokie Feb 2015 #30
well let's put it this way Skittles Feb 2015 #39
I'd buy a ticket to see that Cirque du So-What Feb 2015 #11
It's to late for O'Reilly. Will it make his viewers question their own? Thats my hope. nt Snotcicles Feb 2015 #19
He may end up taking hostages and barricading himself in an office somewhere with a bullhorn. NBachers Feb 2015 #38
O'Reilly lied about what the article said? I'm ... just ... just ... LiberalAndProud Feb 2015 #2
What?! That BOR lied? Surely you're joking (and I'm not calling you Shirley). InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2015 #12
Nice to see you're as gobsmacked as I. LiberalAndProud Feb 2015 #17
It's like when the report came out on Palin. It said she abused her office, she said it cleared her. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2015 #18
Who was it who said, "We create our own reality?" LiberalAndProud Feb 2015 #32
What I think is funny is when they act like "it didn't happen" unless they say so. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2015 #34
Looks like CNN is going deeper.... Historic NY Feb 2015 #3
reality has a liberal bias... Motown_Johnny Feb 2015 #4
the whole falklands thing barely even counts as a war. KG Feb 2015 #5
It does to the 900+ dead. WinkyDink Feb 2015 #13
Thatcher sent NUKES down there.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2015 #35
"dos calvos peleando por un peine" MisterP Feb 2015 #37
Bill O'Reilly isn't resigning. FOXNews pays him to lie. JaneyVee Feb 2015 #6
He's not called Bill O'LIElly fo nuthin. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2015 #14
Or as Olbermann used to call him, O'Really. George II Feb 2015 #24
O'Reilly's been a loudmouth bully... gregcrawford Feb 2015 #7
Excellent. Thespian2 Feb 2015 #10
Yup, Posturd Boy for the Faux Nutwork. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2015 #15
Here is what one new person said about him csziggy Feb 2015 #16
+1 mountain grammy Feb 2015 #28
Bill O's dad was a bully too, according to someone I know who worked with him Skittles Feb 2015 #40
R#29 & K for, lalalalalalalalala!1 n/t UTUSN Feb 2015 #8
I can't recall experienced reporters ever piling on like this starroute Feb 2015 #20
it's the idea that Fox Fucking News can even begin to trash Brian Williams Skittles Feb 2015 #41
Kurtz and O'Reilly, two-man circle jerk Android3.14 Feb 2015 #21
"Is this complicated?" gratuitous Feb 2015 #22
Uhhhhh... czarjak Feb 2015 #23
Touche' turbinetree Feb 2015 #25
O'Reilly is fighting for his professional life. Buzz Clik Feb 2015 #26
HOLD HIS FEET TO THE FIRE! LibGranny Feb 2015 #27
but, but, but it's free speech to lie on fox. mountain grammy Feb 2015 #29
O'Really must be a worse guy in person than he seems on television.... George II Feb 2015 #31
courage in numbers Skittles Feb 2015 #42
I hope Fox doesn't fire him. His unraveling will get better and better. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #33
It is too complicated for Kurtz. deutsey Feb 2015 #36
Considering that O'Really interrrupted repeatedly and didn't allow Kurtz to even finish.... George II Feb 2015 #43
O'Liely told the truth! hootinholler Feb 2015 #44

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
1. Time to destroy O'Reilly's fragile hold on sanity
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 04:54 PM
Feb 2015

Glad to see David Corn won't back down and that the MSM (at least the CNN part of it) has now picked up on the story.

I'm still hopeful that we'll get to see an on-air O'reilly freakout that culminates in him being led off the set in a straight jacket.

calimary

(81,322 posts)
9. Fragile hold on sanity?
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 06:05 PM
Feb 2015

I'm afraid that particular horse is already outta the barn. And running around somewhere in the next country.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
30. And they'll never get that horse back in the barn either
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 07:39 PM
Feb 2015

Fragile hold on sanity is perfect way to describe O'liely too

NBachers

(17,122 posts)
38. He may end up taking hostages and barricading himself in an office somewhere with a bullhorn.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 01:22 AM
Feb 2015

The hostage scene in Robocop comes to mind.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
2. O'Reilly lied about what the article said? I'm ... just ... just ...
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 04:56 PM
Feb 2015

[font face="andalus" size="8" color="purple"]shocked![/font]

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
3. Looks like CNN is going deeper....
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 05:00 PM
Feb 2015

"Nobody remembers this happening," said Manny Alvarez, who was a cameraman for CBS News in Buenos Aires.

Jim Forrest, who was a sound engineer for CBS there, said that when he heard O'Reilly retell the Argentina riot story to interviewer Marvin Kalb several years ago, he contacted Kalb and said "I was on that crew, and I don't recall his version of events."

Longtime NBC News correspondent George Lewis, who was also there at the time, agreed with Engberg, writing on Facebook, "Cushiest war I ever covered."

Did O'Reilly's photographer get "run down" and bloodied?

CNN has interviewed seven people who were there for CBS, and none of them recall anyone from the network being injured.

"If somebody got hurt, we all would have known," Alvarez said.



http://linkis.com/money.cnn.com/2015/0/4Xdm4

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
37. "dos calvos peleando por un peine"
Reply to KG (Reply #5)
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 10:08 PM
Feb 2015

more vets committed suicide than died in the war, Argentina had more Britons than the Falklands, the French found them and named them, and the've been US longer than they were Argentinean

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
7. O'Reilly's been a loudmouth bully...
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 05:30 PM
Feb 2015

... all his miserable life. But, like every bully Satan ever defecated, he's a craven coward and a pathological liar. Roger Ailes and his merry band of mental defectives have the honor and morals of a pack of hyenas. Wait, no... that does a disservice to hyenas; they actually serve a purpose in the Grand Scheme of Things. Pox News does not.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
16. Here is what one new person said about him
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 06:18 PM
Feb 2015
Ed Rabel
Eric, I sent this comment, eralier, to Joseph Galloway: "Joseph Galloway - I know this fraud from my days as a cub reporter at CBS News in Atlanta where O'Reilly spent a short time. I say a short time because, even then, O'Reilly was a complete fraud - refusing to do the hard, grunt work of a neophyte reporter to earn his stripes. He was lazy, flippant, self-centered, egotistical and full of excuses (There's a word for excuses I won't use here) When called to go on stories in the middle of the night, he was too good for that. And for almost anything else he was asked to do. Today, we are witnessing the same old fraud at play. Cheers!"
February 20 at 2:40pm
https://www.facebook.com/eric.j.engberg/posts/10204873374051471


O'Lielly hasn't changed at all.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
20. I can't recall experienced reporters ever piling on like this
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 06:29 PM
Feb 2015

O'Reilly must have crossed some invisible line. Or else it was the Brian Williams thing that made them decide the reputation of their entire profession was at stake. But something happened...

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
41. it's the idea that Fox Fucking News can even begin to trash Brian Williams
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 02:21 PM
Feb 2015

that entire network is based on bullshit

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
22. "Is this complicated?"
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 06:48 PM
Feb 2015

The short answer, as Corn well knows, is "no." It's really quite easy. But Fox and its minions have a job to do, and that job is to confuse and frighten folks. The fact that Billo has been caught - badly - makes their job a little harder, which is indeed complicated. Kurtz can't be bothered with fact-checking Billo's brandishing of the times article; not if he wants to keep his phony-baloney job. Besides, Kurtz can't be sure what Billo might do if provoked. He's crazed enough at his most sedate, and this episode really has Billo torked all out of shape.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
25. Touche'
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 07:14 PM
Feb 2015

Way to go Mother Jones and David Corn--facts are facts and since Kurtz likes to think he knows maybe he should research before he makes his little comments--

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
26. O'Reilly is fighting for his professional life.
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 07:15 PM
Feb 2015

Apparently, FoxNews is not allowing him to just shrug it off.

He is in desperate need of a Checkers moment.

mountain grammy

(26,624 posts)
29. but, but, but it's free speech to lie on fox.
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 07:36 PM
Feb 2015

If O'Reilly slithers though and survives this, fox will have no credibility. Oh wait, they already don't.

George II

(67,782 posts)
31. O'Really must be a worse guy in person than he seems on television....
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 07:45 PM
Feb 2015

....EVERYONE he's run across, and run over, seems to be coming out of the woodwork to bash him. Pity.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
42. courage in numbers
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 02:23 PM
Feb 2015

easy for Bill to destroy someone who speaks the truth about him, not so easy to destroy a lot of them.....as Mr. Cosby now knows too

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
33. I hope Fox doesn't fire him. His unraveling will get better and better.
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 08:36 PM
Feb 2015

I feel bad for enjoying watching a person unravel. Actually, not that bad.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
36. It is too complicated for Kurtz.
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 09:45 PM
Feb 2015

I remember he and I got into a snippy private email exchange in 2001 or so. I can't remember what it was about (it had to do with Bush), but I sent a response to him on a column he wrote, pointing out something that I thought was wrong in it.

He shot back with what I thought was a very snotty response and I responded in defense of my original point. I don't recall how many emails we exchanged (it wasn't a lot), but he ended up writing something that actually reinforced what I was saying. When I pointed that out to him, I never heard from him again.

I wish I had saved those emails.

George II

(67,782 posts)
43. Considering that O'Really interrrupted repeatedly and didn't allow Kurtz to even finish....
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 02:31 PM
Feb 2015

....many questions or comments, I thought he did a decent job. It's not easy interviewing someone like O'rally.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
44. O'Liely told the truth!
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 02:52 PM
Feb 2015

"O'Reilly:I wasn't working together with these guys."

Yep, that's obvious that you never worked with anyone, Bill.

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