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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 07:54 PM Feb 2015

Cable Channels Speed Up TV Shows To Cram In More Ads

TBS and others are using compression technology to play content back at a slightly faster clip in order to get a few more seconds of air time for ads.

Some cable channels have gotten so edit- and compression-happy that they can now fit in more than 20 minutes of ads each hour,

several minutes more than what you’ll find on most prime-time network broadcasts.
http://consumerist.com/2015/02/19/cable-channels-speed-up-tv-shows-to-cram-in-more-ads/
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Cable Channels Speed Up TV Shows To Cram In More Ads (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Feb 2015 OP
Just figures. Plus the ads are so clear and loud compared to the muffled hard to hear shows. Dont call me Shirley Feb 2015 #1
Precisely Sherman A1 Feb 2015 #3
Me, too. I seldom watch anything live anymore. ladyVet Feb 2015 #45
all too true olddots Feb 2015 #2
Well said!!! >>> "there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there?" n/t RKP5637 Feb 2015 #4
They need to get the programs down to a minute jberryhill Feb 2015 #5
haha! good one! bbgrunt Feb 2015 #24
Sheesh. As if there aren't too many already. yeoman6987 Feb 2015 #6
Not surprising, but it's certainly wasted on a viewer like me. MANative Feb 2015 #7
When we had tv, I did the same thing with the mute. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2015 #38
Why I'm building up a movie and select TV library aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2015 #8
did (still do?) same to music. spanone Feb 2015 #9
And they blast through the credits, the same credits that are so very important to working randys1 Feb 2015 #10
They run the closing credits at least four times faster lpbk2713 Feb 2015 #43
I don't recall what I was watching the other day, but in a single block of ads, Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #11
the joke's on them, heh shanti Feb 2015 #12
I wondered why the voices sounded different AwakeAtLast Feb 2015 #13
And here I thought the Munchkins were finally getting more work. Quasimodem Feb 2015 #33
Is that why most of my recorded programs start/end times are slightly off? nt procon Feb 2015 #14
Full disclousure: I've always speeded up my posts to cram in more FSogol Feb 2015 #15
Lol....I noticed! dixiegrrrrl Feb 2015 #39
Local news now starts with a commercial. GreatCaesarsGhost Feb 2015 #16
I do like my DVR. ohnoyoudidnt Feb 2015 #17
We saved about 150.00 a month dixiegrrrrl Feb 2015 #46
IIRC, CBS got caught doing this in the 80's with its late night programming. Gidney N Cloyd Feb 2015 #18
I haven't had cable since the 1980's- then, pay tv meant pay money so you didn't have commercials NBachers Feb 2015 #19
No cable channels. No problem. nt onehandle Feb 2015 #20
Apply market forces mindwalker_i Feb 2015 #21
"Okay everyone. Act faster." n/t jtuck004 Feb 2015 #22
I don't have cable or a dish. SheilaT Feb 2015 #23
I found a bug on Dish Net that may drop some content after a commercial break... cascadiance Feb 2015 #25
You know what's next, right? Little pop-up ads are so 1990's arcane1 Feb 2015 #26
Next: Compulsory viewing Newsjock Feb 2015 #27
... pinboy3niner Feb 2015 #30
Took me a second to place that. zappaman Feb 2015 #34
I have noticed that tv screens have station ids, and moving announcements of shows coming up dixiegrrrrl Feb 2015 #40
Me too. I even saw them Squish the picture to make room for ads!! arcane1 Feb 2015 #42
I killed cable TV years ago. Ramses Feb 2015 #28
Nothing new about this. mwooldri Feb 2015 #29
Geez,,,,, Cryptoad Feb 2015 #32
Years ago there was a local channel that was so blatent about it HeiressofBickworth Feb 2015 #31
This ticks me off fadedrose Feb 2015 #35
Back in the day, it was illegal to have more than x number of minutes for commercials. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2015 #41
Just another reason to go with Netflix. L0oniX Feb 2015 #36
ugh Liberal_in_LA Feb 2015 #37
They have been doing this for years and it is not just cable CBGLuthier Feb 2015 #44
10 minutes of TV show, 20 minutes of commercials? meow2u3 Feb 2015 #47

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
1. Just figures. Plus the ads are so clear and loud compared to the muffled hard to hear shows.
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 08:00 PM
Feb 2015

I'm glad I can dvr past that crap.

ladyVet

(1,587 posts)
45. Me, too. I seldom watch anything live anymore.
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 10:46 AM
Feb 2015

The TV's on in the background, but the shows I watch, I record and play back to skip the commercials. Just a couple of weeks ago, I was counting how many commercials, and there were usually around five. Now there are seven to twelve, every commercial break. Add in the breaks between shows, when they scrunch everything to one side to either get in another commercial or two, or start the next show, and it's getting crazy. Cable or regular network channels, makes no difference.

I have to turn the TV up up really loud for some shows, and then the commercials blast through so loud the neighbors can hear them. Sleepy Hollow is really bad. I can barely hear either actor on that one. Good thing Tom Mison is so drool-worthy just to look at.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
2. all too true
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 08:01 PM
Feb 2015

the FCC became obsolete when cable was devised , look for more shifty processes to come our way .

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
5. They need to get the programs down to a minute
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 08:03 PM
Feb 2015

...in order to have 29 minutes of ads around them.

Gone With The Wind in 20 seconds isn't all that bad:

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
6. Sheesh. As if there aren't too many already.
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 08:03 PM
Feb 2015

I guess Amazon Instant Video is going to benefit even more now and Hulu with less commercials. Netflix too but normally shows are shown much later, but perhaps the wait will appeal to some who don't want to watch commercials.

MANative

(4,112 posts)
7. Not surprising, but it's certainly wasted on a viewer like me.
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 08:04 PM
Feb 2015

When commercials start, my TV goes on Mute. I'm one of those odd multi-taskers - always reading a book or writing or something while TV is on - so I look away, too. It's a habit I "inherited" from my late father, who couldn't stand how much louder the commercials were than the main programming. (It would hurt his ears - hearing aids.) Couldn't tell you any product advertised during just about any program that I watch. There are only three shows that get my full attention - Downton Abbey, Scandal, and How to Get Away with Murder. Oh, and football.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
38. When we had tv, I did the same thing with the mute.
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 01:11 AM
Feb 2015

Mr. Dixie was raised on tv and it took some doing before he was ready to give it up. So the blank eye sat in the living room for a few years.
But he did agree to mute the commercials.

Comcast is concerned by the fact that people under 35 are not using cable/tv much. They seem to be able to get anything they want to watch via smart phones and tablets.

I do not miss tv at all, and I do like the money we have saved by not having cable.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
10. And they blast through the credits, the same credits that are so very important to working
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 08:06 PM
Feb 2015

actors and crew.

Those credits are very important and even though much of it is reruns, it is still a way to keep your name in mind with those who matter.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
43. They run the closing credits at least four times faster
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 01:28 AM
Feb 2015



and many more times smaller while they run ads on the other part of the screen. No human could possibly discern what is being displayed. Obviously they think they are meeting some legal or union commitment. As you say, the creative people who were a part of the film are seriously taken advantage of.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
11. I don't recall what I was watching the other day, but in a single block of ads,
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 08:08 PM
Feb 2015

I sat through at least a dozen ads in a row, several in the same block for time warner itself, which means it was unable to sell that airtime to anyone else.

Quasimodem

(441 posts)
33. And here I thought the Munchkins were finally getting more work.
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 10:37 PM
Feb 2015

In the 80s, the show "Max Headroom" showcased BlipVerts -- commercials so fast and scrunched together that their audience was beginning to spontaneously combust.

Sci-fi often predicts the future, just a little bit off true -- in this case, not BlipVerts, but BlipGrams.

ohnoyoudidnt

(1,858 posts)
17. I do like my DVR.
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 08:27 PM
Feb 2015

I just record what I want to watch and view it later so I can FF through all the BS. Not that there is much worth watching on cable, anyway. I'm tempted to just cancel it and use online streaming. If they raise my rates again, I might just do that.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
46. We saved about 150.00 a month
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 10:59 AM
Feb 2015

by dropping the tv, and the cell phone plan.
Mr. Dixie now justs buys minutes, for about 20.00 a month. Good plan, if you do not talk much on cell phone.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,835 posts)
18. IIRC, CBS got caught doing this in the 80's with its late night programming.
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 08:32 PM
Feb 2015

This is pre-Letterman era. I think they were rerunning Columbo episodes and they were compressing the non dialog parts almost imperceptably, not just editing scenes and lines out.

NBachers

(17,110 posts)
19. I haven't had cable since the 1980's- then, pay tv meant pay money so you didn't have commercials
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 09:13 PM
Feb 2015

I'm not going to pay money to watch commercials.

I've got an antenna so I can watch some over-the-air Obama speech or debate or something; otherwise, it's my trusty Roku and whatever channels I can watch with that.

These pig cable companies don't deserve my money.

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
21. Apply market forces
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 09:45 PM
Feb 2015

Stop watching TV. Dump your cable and hit them in the pocketbook. As long as suckers keep paying for cable, regardless of the product they get, cable will keep doing these things. At some point, I just can't feel sorry for people who keep bending over.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
23. I don't have cable or a dish.
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 09:59 PM
Feb 2015

I do all my watching of TV and movies via the internet. I've gotten so spoiled by never seeing commercials at all, that even Hulu is so annoying that I rarely watch anything there. I prefer to do without.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
25. I found a bug on Dish Net that may drop some content after a commercial break...
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 10:05 PM
Feb 2015

Dish Network puts in its on ads for "local" ad slots by having ads stored on your receiver and then aired when local ad breaks come up both in your live content you are watching and in your DVR playbacks. Most of the time it works fine, even if it might show a frame or two of the ad it is overlapping at the end. But at times if you have the broadcast delayed by less than a minute or maybe a minute or so in such a way that is probably not the full length of time of an ad break, when it plays back with these ad placements, it will switch your broadcast from that amount of time delayed to "live" at the end of an ad break, and step on whatever delayed content you had after that ad break. I don't think it is intentional, but in effect you are watching ads instead of the delayed content when it "skips ahead" to live content.

Hopefully they are fixing this. I reported it a few weeks ago to them.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
40. I have noticed that tv screens have station ids, and moving announcements of shows coming up
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 01:17 AM
Feb 2015

all sorts of things pop up when watching a show.
Have seen this when over at someone's house who has tv.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
42. Me too. I even saw them Squish the picture to make room for ads!!
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 01:21 AM
Feb 2015

Not to mention all the damn ads in the script!

 

Ramses

(721 posts)
28. I killed cable TV years ago.
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 10:13 PM
Feb 2015

I will never subject myself to that. Plus its expensive as hell and they show garbage. I find everything I need online and on an old fashioned radio.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
29. Nothing new about this.
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 10:15 PM
Feb 2015

In analog TV days, European TV stations ran movies at 25 frames a second - so it can work with 50 Hz electricity.

Though yes, re-runs can be edited down for the time allotted for that program. It doesn't surprise me one bit.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
32. Geez,,,,,
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 10:34 PM
Feb 2015

the next thing yall will be telling us that they make recordings of all our Digital Communications..!

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
31. Years ago there was a local channel that was so blatent about it
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 10:28 PM
Feb 2015

that they plugged commercials in on a rigid schedule -- regardless of whether the show was mid-action or an actor mid-sentence. I quit watching that channel because it was so damned annoying. I have noticed that the credits have been sped up and compressed to a portion of the screen so they can cram in more commercials.

Liberal use of DVR has resolved most of the problem. There are a few that block the fast-forward function. I don't watch them if they have blocked it.

Let us not forget my favorite mantra: it's all about the money. They are not bringing shows to you for your amusement. They are capturing your attention so you will sit through the commercials. The goal is to increase viewership in order to be able to charge more for advertising time. IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT THE MONEY!

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
35. This ticks me off
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 10:49 PM
Feb 2015

They squeeze 15 short commercials at least into some spots and by the time you see all that garbage you forget what you saw before they started.

I would think that with the cost of cable, we'd have shorter commercial times. The more they get the more money they want. This is like having Pay TV even for junky programs and old repeats.

Congress should shorten time allowed for commercials. We have enough billionaires as it is...

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
41. Back in the day, it was illegal to have more than x number of minutes for commercials.
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 01:19 AM
Feb 2015

Pre-Reagan, when the FCC had balls.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
44. They have been doing this for years and it is not just cable
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 02:38 AM
Feb 2015

some of the OTA subnets like MeTV and AntennaVision do it too. It can be quite comical at times when people move way too fast.

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