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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Ferocity of the Sublime: Slave Ship by J.M.W.Turner
All that astonished the soul, all that impressed a feeling of terror leads to the sublime.
--Denis Diderot
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Slave Ship (Slavers Throwing Overboard the Dead and Dying, Typhoon Coming On). 1840. The Museum of Fine Arts. Boston
In our modern day usage we think of sublime" as a still, deep lake not a raging sea. Yet in the poetry, art and music from the mid 18th and early 19th century, the Sublime was more than just a vague superlative. It was used for a range of specific characteristics including awe-inspiring, grandiose and terrifying and implying a rush of aesthetic pleasure, even if that rush came from imagining fear or intense pain, as this passage by Lord Byron demonstrates
And first one universal shriek there rushed,
Louder than the loud ocean, like a crash
Of echoing thunder, and then all was hushed,
Save the wild wind and the remorseless dash
Of billows; but at intervals there gushed,
Accompanied with a convulsive splash,
A solitary shriek, the bubbling cry
Of some strong swimmer in his agony.
Nothing suggested the Sublime of that era like a shipwreck due to a huge storm at sea. Sublimity as depicted in Turners work, defines the unmediated power of nature in the universe and furthers the notion that God is very angry with man, using that power to punish mans sinfulness.
One interpretation of this painting takes the argument specifically to the sinfulness of the slave trade so that it becomes a moral statement. Slave trafficking was outlawed in England during Turners lifetime and it has been suggested that the artist was instructing America to do likewise. Turner had been initiated into the anti slavery cause many years earlier.
Ironically (as American abolitionists learned to their horror), pursuit of slave ships by Royal Navy cruisers of the African Squadron had a tragically unintentional consequence: slavers jettisoning their slave cargo to flee more quickly from attack or, if overtaken, ridding themselves of incriminating evidence. But cruisers were also rewarded by a head fee proportionate to the numbers they liberated. The abolitionists accused navy captains of exploiting the reward instead of attacking the slave ships in port.
Slave Ship is thought to have been inspired by a real incident which occurred in 1781 (and was a turning point in the abolition of slavery in England in 1838) when a slaver cast off his sick and dying Africans on board, still shackled in their irons, into the shark-infested waters of the Caribbean off Jamaica. The reason was strictly commercial: his live cargo was insured. The underwriters would not pay for the loss of life of his slaves due to brutality and disease, but would reimburse for property that could be deemed to be losses at sea.
Turner was an artist made for his time: he was a dramatist of light, a master of expressing the vapor and sea spray, the color melange we see in the maelstrom to the left of the canvas and that astonishing white light appearing in the middle. While scenes of storms at sea were a common Romantic era idiom, no artist was better at making the poetic statement that is evoked here.
The foreground is horror at its most Sublime. We can feel the dread of having predatory fish eat human flesh and Turner has painted what appears to be a monster fish in the attack and the smaller, darting fish with terrifying eyes, while sea birds dive and hover over the kill.
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We can logically see the bloated leg as the artist pictures it (the torso of the body below is indistinct), since it could have been thrust upward from the force of the churning water. The floating black iron chains are a bit more problematic and require a further suspension of disbelief.
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What appears to be the ships flag --we discern that it is a white flag with a blue stripe -- is floating nearby, raising the question of the flags nationality since no other flag appears on the ships mast. What flag was this ship flying...and why?
There is also a question of why the ship appears to be sailing into the maelstrom instead of away from it into the clearer sky and calmer water. My logical brain surmises that the ship has been tossed into that position and cannot turn itself around. It has been suggested that the patch of sky to the right of the ship along with the raised arms of the martyred slaves who are sinking beneath the waves signify the light of redemption as well as retribution.
While by and large this painting is highly regarded today, not everyone shares that view. Peter Schjeldahl takes a sarcastic swipe saying We must never forget to admire him. This tires...it is a congeries of misty, fiery, surfy, sunset stuntsan art less to contemplate than to talk about, calculated to jazz the talkiest of nations. Turner was the Damien Hirst of his day. But there is a deeper point here, and I think Schjeldahl misses it.
Slave Ship received a chilly reception when Turner exhibited it along with his other sea scene paintings. Turner was considered boorish and unintellectual by the public of his day and this work came in for a good deal of derision. It remained unsold until a young American, John Ruskin, became Turners unappointed champion. Ruskin tried to arrange for Slave Ships sale but failed, and Ruskins father bought the painting as a gift to him. The painting later went to auction and was bought by Alice Hooper, a wealthy and prominent Bostonian who donated it her citys Museum of Fine Arts, where a genteel band of socially active Bostonians developed a moral interpretation around it -- and it became a catalyst for political action: justification for imperial ventures into the Caribbean.
Slave Ship hangs in that gallery today. It is worth your while -- if you possibly can -- to go see this extraordinary work.
malaise
(269,005 posts)We were exposed to Turner at school - they did promote the 'British' artists.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)I guess you studied Constable, too. He was more "English country side" and not at all Sublime in the Romantics sense of the word.
malaise
(269,005 posts)and Gainsborough
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,625 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,625 posts)I'm sure I'd love it if I ever got to see it.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)exhibit...who knows? I see good loans in LA when I visit my daughter...the Getty and LACMA are favorites...SF has a great one, altho I haven't been there...
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,625 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)I swear... on my next trip to see my daughter and grandson!
But I'll betcha LACMA will have a blockbuster of something and that will be that...
or the Getty...
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)Always learn something in your Friday thread.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)I've been stuck inside so much with all the snow that I tend to write more.
Can't wait for spring...
panader0
(25,816 posts)Recommended.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)person, altho it is not huge. I used to wonder why it was here in the U.S. but then I found out about Ruskin and that whole connection. Interesting. It makes sense, because we had not banned slavery as soon as Britain did. So this painting became a kind of symbol of the anti-slavery movement.
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)Israel didn't exist in those days, and Greece has too much blue and too little white.
Finland isn't the first country I'd associate with the slave trade, though.
On edit: No, the Finns didn't use that flag til later. I got nuthin'.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Sorta like a flag for the maritime navy and another for the national home land?
My guess is that it is a British naval flag of the 18th century. Altho they could be flying a flag of some other nation involved in slave trafficking? Some place in the Caribbean?
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)and I doubt that is correct...
petronius
(26,602 posts)Argentina, perhaps? There are a lot of horizontal blue-white stripes in that region...
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)I really don't know that much about the slave trade between Africa and America of the 18th century when the incident that inspired this work happened.
petronius
(26,602 posts)vessels owned by Argentinean ship-owners would have participated. But a number of other South American countries had/have a similar stripe in their flags.
Assuming it's really meant to be a flag - it could equally-well be meant as an item of clothing or a blanket...
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)the political nature of the painting I wondered if including it as flotsam was, in itself, a political statement.
Would a shirt be so big? Perhaps a blanket, I guess...
petronius
(26,602 posts)Plus, my very quick googling suggests that Britain was pressuring Buenos Aires to end the trade through the 1830s, so Turner may have been aiming his comment at Argentina...
On edit: here's what wiki gives as the flag of Argentina in 1840:
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)and Argentina for colluding to continue this evil practice! Was it a naval flag?
So if the real slave ship incident occurred off of Jamaica that would make some sense...(I tried googling flags of Jamaica and got LOTS of Union Jacks!).
petronius
(26,602 posts)fly the national flag of their home country.
At the time Turner painted this, the slave trade (although not slavery) was largely illegal, and Britain was very active in pressuring other countries to outlaw the importation of slaves and to permit the British Navy to search and seize slave ships of that nation. By identifying a (perhaps) Argentinean ship with this horror, Turner may have been intending to add to that pressure.
I'm not sure the US is being called out specifically here: the importation of slaves was already illegal in the US (as of 1808), and the US Navy was contributing to the preventative squadron. We were with Turner and the British, at least as far as the maritime trade was concerned...
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Are you a historian? Your knowledge here is impressive and very convincing. I think you are right.
Why was Argentina such a bad guy in this? I'm wondering why they got involved in the first place...(except, well, avarice)...
I really appreciate your contribution to our understanding of this important work of art. It gives us so much more insight into the world of the artist as he conceived and painted this picture.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)but I think your analysis still holds...could be he was "out for hire" in the slave trade business...so no surprise there...
petronius
(26,602 posts)Maybe the actual ship that he remembered was in the Caribbean, with a British-sounding captain and a Caribbean or North American destination. But when he painted it years later, the focus of the slave trade (and the abolition efforts) was farther south, and so he incorporated a South-American-looking flag to indict the entire sweep of the trade - the ship in the painting represents all the slavers everywhere, sailing to a justly-deserved doom by their own choice (they could turn the ship around, but instead they sail into the gathering storm, sowing murder along the way)...
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)The South American history you cite is something I had not studied. So your scan is entirely plausible.
I still favor the idea that the ship was turned around by the force of the storm, thereby reinforcing the whole notion of the power of the Sublime linked to God's punishment. My research hasn't yielded much on the ship's direction except to raise it as a question. I will bet that there is a bio of Turner out there, tho, that has the answer.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Dido building Carthage
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)I usually agree with Schjeldahl but I think he's a bit harsh on Turner.
Simon Schama did a whole segment on Turner in the Power of Art series. You can find the Turner segment on youtube. Schama likes Turner and thinks Slave Ship is wonderful.
KitSileya
(4,035 posts)Two weekends ago I spent over half an hour in front of 'The Fighting Temeraire Tugged to her Last Berth to be Broken Up' - it is my favorite painting. Unfortunately I was short on time because I had to reschedule my visit to the National Gallery from Saturday to Sunday because some of the staff did an industrial action on Saturday.
At the gallery, I bought a book about the ship(s) and the painting by Sam Willis - it was riveting, I thought. And I loved how they used the painting in the last James Bond movie.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)through the Sainsbury Wing.
I didn't know that about the James Bond movie. I don't go to those but I am sorry I missed out on how they treated it. Was it in a scene in the National Gallery?
KitSileya
(4,035 posts)The scene is set there, it's the first time Bond meets the new Q. Bond is afraid that he's too old and broken for MI6, so the painting is absolutely a propos. They talk about it, and it's just a lovely way of incorporating art into the storyline.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)being Sublime and all, LOL!
elleng
(130,916 posts)elleng
(130,916 posts)I was moved when, in the movie Mr. Turner, his father's angst about the slavers and the slave trade was made clear.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)I will keep the faith but as I type this it is snowing once again. One to three inches is predicted so it won't be bad (unless it IS).
The situation in New Haven is they don't know where to put it all. It piles up so high that it is difficult to drive, particularly trying to see down a street whether traffic is coming so you can turn into the street.
I just had my car fixed...hole in a pipe that was causing fumes to back up in my car when I ran the heat blower. OMG. But I got it fixed...also got a new battery so my car would start in the morning...this winter has been challenging to say the least...
elleng
(130,916 posts)'forecast' says 1-3 inches expected but looks like more than 3 already, here anyway. We've not been inundated, however.
GLAD the hole in the pipe fixed, and new batteries always good!
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)some relief...I've been consulting the weather gods lately, looking for some redemption!
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)"Burning of the houses of Lords and Commons"
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)sketches while watching the disaster unfold.
I believe that story. I don't believe the story that he had himself lashed to a ship during a storm to "experience" it for his art. Doesn't pass the smell test...
IcyPeas
(21,872 posts)It's been nominated for numerous awards at international film festivals.
Storyline
Mr. Turner explores the last quarter century of the great if eccentric British painter J.M.W. Turner (1775-1851). Profoundly affected by the death of his father, loved by a housekeeper he takes for granted and occasionally exploits sexually, he forms a close relationship with a seaside landlady with whom he eventually lives incognito in Chelsea, where he dies. Throughout this, he travels, paints, stays with the country aristocracy, visits brothels, is a popular if anarchic member of the Royal Academy of Arts, has himself strapped to the mast of a ship so that he can paint a snowstorm, and is both celebrated and reviled by the public and by royalty.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)been awful here. It's playing at a downtown artsy movie theatre but getting down there with New Haven's already narrow old streets and the huge piles of snow will be a real challenge. I'm too old to take that on...I wish the theatres in the 'burbs had it but alas...
Hekate
(90,692 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)ananda
(28,862 posts)In 2012 I watched the British tv show Garrow's Law and its somewhat fictionalized the account of the Zong, inspiring me to look into the history of the abominable and despicable slave trade. The Zong massacre actually took place in late 1781 in which the captain of the slave ship Zong had hundreds of Africans thrown overboard on the claim that the ship didn't have enough water (which it actually did). If the "cargo" was lost at sea, then the ship owners could claim 30 pounds per body from the insurers, not the case if the slaves were lost after landing. Over the next three years, this massacre (term used by English "radicals" opposed to slavery) became the basis for court cases and inspired more people to become abolitionists and ultimately led to the English law being changed to outlaw slavery. But at the time all it amounted to was an insurance claim on the part of the shipping company.
In 1840 Turner exhibited his great painting, The Slave Ship, accompanied by a poem he wrote. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Slave_Ship . This also encouraged stronger and more effective anti-slavery laws and enforcement on the part of England and other countries. It also inspired some rather bizarre humor on the part of Mark Twain, as follows:
Mark Twain said, in "A Tramp Abroad," Volume 1, Chapter XXIV,[8]: "What a red rag is to a bull, Turner's "Slave Ship" was to me, before I studied art. Mr. Ruskin is educated in art up to a point where that picture throws him into as mad an ecstasy of pleasure as it used to throw me into one of rage, last year, when I was ignorant. His cultivation enables himand me, nowto see water in that glaring yellow mud, and natural effects in those lurid explosions of mixed smoke and flame, and crimson sunset glories; it reconciles him and me, now to the floating of iron cable-chains and other unfloatable things; it reconciles us to fishes swimming around on top of the mud I mean the water. The most of the picture is a manifest impossibility that is to say, a lie; and only rigid cultivation can enable a man to find truth in a lie. But it enabled Mr. Ruskin to do it, and it has enabled me to do it, and I am thankful for it. A Boston newspaper reporter went and took a look at the Slave Ship floundering about in that fierce conflagration of reds and yellows, and said it reminded him of a tortoise-shell cat having a fit in a platter of tomatoes. In my then uneducated state, that went home to my non-cultivation, and I thought here is a man with an unobstructed eye. Mr. Ruskin would have said: This person is an ass. That is what I would say, now." See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Slave_Ship )
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Have you seen the painting at the MFA?