David Corn Hits Back at Bill O Reilly..Politico: Dylan Byers.

[Stuart G]

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2015/02/david-corn-hits-back-at-bill-oreilly-202828.html

By DYLAN BYERS | 2/19/15 7:30 PM EST


David Corn, the lead author of a new report alleging that Bill O'Reilly lied about his Falklands War experience, says the Fox News anchor is hiding behind name calling and refusing to account for legitimate discrepancies in his statements.

"To me, the issue here is whether a media figure and journalist like Bill O'Reilly, who claims to be a truth teller, can get away without answering questions about specific statements he's made, and hide behind name calling," Corn told the On Media blog on Thursday. "I would encourage anyone else who covers this story to get Bill O'Reilly to answer those quesitons -- if not to me, than to anyone else."

Corn's remarks came immediately after O'Reilly called Corn "a liar" and a "despicable guttersnipe" during an interview with On Media. O'Reilly said that he "never claimed to have been on the Falkland Islands" and that Corn's report, for Mother Jones, was "a piece of garbage."

In the report, Corn alleges that O'Reilly repeatedly misled viewers by claiming to have been in a war zone during the conflict between England and Argentina in 1982. In his book, in public appearances and on his television program, O'Reilly has claimed to have been "in an active war zone" in the Falklands, despite the fact that no American correspondents are believed to have reached the combat zones on the islands.
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So, Corn proved that O Reilly lied.... "in an active war zone in the Falklands" .... It is what it is...

[Faux pas]

1. Kickin'

[JHB]

2. "never claimed" in the same sense as Bush "never claimed" Saddam was involved in 911

He just strongly implied it, and let his willing audience draw the inaccurate conclusion.

[Stuart G]

4. Here is what Bill O...claimed..according to David Corn,

"In the report, Corn alleges that O'Reilly repeatedly misled viewers by claiming to have been in a war zone during the conflict between England and Argentina in 1982. In his book, in public appearances and on his television program, O'Reilly has claimed to have been "in an active war zone" in the Falklands, despite the fact that no American correspondents are believed to have reached the combat zones on the islands. "..

you be the judge...

[Fred Sanders]

7. When you WRITE and actively repeat and promote that your helicopter was hit with an RPG and it was not - there is no mistaking the lie.

Exact same thing. Except only a few geriatrics trust Fox.

[randys1]

31. I have a personal grudge against fox and hannity and oreilly

they lied, they poisoned the minds of people I love and loved

They promoted a war they were unwilling to fight in

They insisted my child go and fight and possibly die while theirs were safely away at prep school

They and W owe me and millions like me for nightmares, old age before our time, etc.

I hold them personally responsible and it is a good thing for them that myself and most like me are pacifists.

[cynzke]

10. Yeah, he was within earshot!

Bet he could see smoke from his hotel window!

[A Simple Game]

20. I hate to come to Bill's defense but...

it does say no American "correspondents" are believed to have reached the combat zones.

Calling Bill O a correspondent would be a very large stretch. Maybe he was just there to buying some lunch or something?

[salin]

28. touche.

However, at the time he was a correspondant for one of the networks (CBS, I think?)

[JHB]

24. He (laughably) includes Buenos Aires as part of the "active war zone"...

...when all of the real active war zones were offshore.

That's his bullshit story, his claim for "I never said that".

[deutsey]

3. I'd love to see this blowhard go down in flames n/t

[Stuart G]

5. I am a member of that club too.......nt

[RufusTFirefly]

33. Unlikely to happen

The falafel incident should've doomed him long ago. Instead, he released the O'Reilly Factor for Kids. Corporate America has coated him with the same Teflon they used so effectively on Raygun.

[Fred Sanders]

6. The leading talking head on Fox caught like a fly in the web of his war lies, this is too good to be true.

So, can the mass media be cowed into ignoring this also, despite the obvious parallels to Brian Wiliams?

Will Fox admit it is not actual news and no one trusted them anyway so what is the big deal?

[LondonReign2]

8. I don't see that it matters

Williams is in trouble because he and his network still operated under the illusion that they were truth tellers.

Everyone, including their own viewers, knows Fox intentionally and repeatedly lies, and no one cares.

[Fred Sanders]

9. Actually his viewers are well aware of his war chest thumping, it is in all his "books"...if they become aware he lied.....

Which is why Bilbo is apoleptic and is now lying about his lying.

It matters, it matters a lot. Any stab to the smelly underbelly of the Fox beast is good with me.

[Fred Sanders]

13. I was also in The Falklands then....did not even know it was a bunch of desolate islands in the

middle of nowhere until Bilbo showed up and folks started shooting at him as he came ashore.



"If you can not trust a news anchor or commentator, then you are not going to watch that person"

Bilbo

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/02/20/mother_jones_says_bill_oreilly_has_his_own_brian_williams_problem.html

[RufusTFirefly]

21. Reminds me of when Pat Robertson sued former California Congressman Pete McCloskey for libel

Robertson claimed to have seen combat in Korea. McCloskey alleged that the televangelist got his daddy (a U.S. Senator) to keep him out of combat.

Former GOP congressman Pete McCloskey of California, who served in the same unit as Robertson, claimed that Robertson had relied on his father's influence to get him out of combat duty. Robertson was so rankled by the charge that he sued McCloskey and Representative Andy Jacobs, an Indiana Democrat who also circulated the charges, for $35 million.

McCloskey insisted that Robertson was on a ship headed for combat until his father used his influence to have him removed. According to McCloskey, Robertson later boasted that he had used his father to "get him out of combat duty."

The libel suit turned out to be an embarrassment to Robertson. During depositions, Paul Brosman, Jr., a retired university professor who served with Robertson in Korea, backed up McCloskey's claim and went even further, asserting that the televangelist had consorted with prostitutes and had sexually harassed a Korean cleaning girl who worked in the barracks. Brosman's deposition asserted that Robertson once feared he had contracted gonorrhea from a prostitute and was "very relieved" when he discovered the problem was a urinary tract infection. Brosman added that he had never personally seen Robertson with a prostitute and said some of his remarks were based on "scuttlebutt" he heard from others.

In the end, using a lame excuse, Robertson wisely dropped the suit.

http://www.schlatter.org/liquor.htm

[libdem4life]

12. Hey, Bill ... What's good for the Goose is good for the Gander ... and you're the Gander. LOL

[abelenkpe]

14. See the difference though?

Brian Williams admitted he fabricated his story. Bill O never will. O'reilly has unshakable belief in his own BS.

[PATRICK]

15. Didn't he win the Peabody Award

and didn't now Senator Al Franken apologize to him for defamation of character? (sarcasm alert icon substitution)

[rhett o rick]

36. BillO was misunderstood. He said he won a "MeBody" award and Franken misunderstood.

A BillO MeBody Award comes in the form of a giant Loofah.

[Stuart G]

16. Here is another link, at Talking Points Memo, that rips O Reilly apart.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/bill-oreilly-falklands-coverage-mother-jones

By Brendan James Published February 20, 2015, 9:52 AM EST


Not long after wagging his finger at NBC anchor Brian Williams for embellishing stories about his war coverage, Fox News host Bill O'Reilly now faces questions about his own tales covering the Falklands War in the 1980s.


An article by Mother Jones published on Thursday raised the issue, contrasting several statements from O'Reilly over the years with the account of his time covering the war in his 2001 book.

Shortly after the article was published on Thursday night, O'Reilly called it "bullshit" and denied he'd embellished anything.

But the Mother Jones article, written by David Corn and Daniel Schulman, found discrepancies in things the Fox News host had said, including about his time working at CBS News earlier in his career

[Fred Sanders]

17. Even con RCP is joining in....

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/02/20/mother_jones_says_bill_oreilly_has_his_own_brian_williams_problem.html

[RufusTFirefly]

18. For O'Liely, name calling is actually an improvement.

Normally he just counters information he doesn't want to hear with "Shut up!"

(For some reason I'm reminded of a very old line from Mad magazine from a man who gets defensive about his combat experience: "Fort Dix was no bed of roses. Lemme tell ya!&quot

[Plucketeer]

22. ISn't there that infamous video clip of Billo?

The one where he's hot 'n bothered and finally snarls: "F**k it! We'll do it LIE!"

[rhett o rick]

37. LOL. Very good. nm

[Shrike47]

19. I thought he's admitting he never got out of Buenos Aires but now he's claiming it was a war zone.

He might have been a thousand miles from the fighting but the British could have invaded!

[erpowers]

23. Recorded Evidence

I believe there is audio evidence of Bill O' Reilly claimed he had been in combat. He was trying to make the argument that he would torture someone in order to get information that would help his fellow soldiers. So, where did he claim he was when he was in combat?

[MohRokTah]

25. At 0:38 into this video, Bill O'Reilly claims to have saved his Photographer IN THE FALKLANDS

He was 1300 miles away at the time:

[W_HAMILTON]

38. Thanks for all the informative links.

When Mother Jones gets after someone, you can bet that they have layers and layers of support to stand on. Your links show just that.

[MohRokTah]

26. At 0:48 in this video, O'Reilly claims he looked for Bill Moyers IN THE FALKLANDS

He was 1300 miles away from the Falkland Islands at the time:

[MohRokTah]

27. On page 110 of his book, O'Reilly SPECIFICALLY claims he was IN THE FALKLAND ISLANDS

He was 1300 miles away from the Falkland Islands:

:large

[Stuart G]

34. I hope O Reilly has to answer the question you raised about page 110.

I wonder how he would answer that one?

[MohRokTah]

29. O'Reilly was in Buenos Aries during the Falkland war, 1300 miles from the conflict.

There was no fighting in Buenos Aries.

He was an 18 hour flight away from the war:

[Spitfire of ATJ]

30. After smearing his opponents Billo will then claim they only attack him to ride his fame.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

32. He was "jostled" and his cameraman fell down while covering a demonstration

in Buenos Aires. No military operatives on either side were present. It took place on the mainland where no combat occurred. The jostling incident came and the demonstration occurred after hostilities and combat in the Falklands had ceased.

So of course he's a combat veteran. I was jostled the other day by some kids in a dark movie theater and jostled trying to get off the bus. I think I deserve military honors for my service in a theater of war.

[MohRokTah]

35. David Corn just tweeted a new problem in O'Reilly's stories

David Corn ?@DavidCornDC 2m 2 minutes ago

"In the Falklands" "war zone" isn't the only issue. O'Reilly said civilians gunned down by troops at protest. No other reports back that.

https://twitter.com/DavidCornDC/status/568883423395385344