Remember Human Sperm & Egg Are Sacred To Fundamentalist Christians.

[TheMastersNemesis]

It you take all the brouhaha about human sexuality and reproduction that fundamentalists spew out it is important that in the final analysis nothing can interfere with the union of the two. Remembering my Catholic upbringing we were brainwashed about human sexuality. Certain male and female sexual practices were taboo. You would literally die if you did them. I know what I am implying sounds nuts.

Having said that we were warned about even having certain thoughts or fantasies outside marriage. What was most crazy is if you took the priests and nuns literally you were not allowed to even have sexual thoughts before marriage at all. What was even worse was I went to an all boys high school. It was strange as I remember that when we had sex education classes in biology I am certain that the instructor only taught the male anatomy and left out the female anatomy altogether. That is how sick it was in the early 1960's.

The evangelicals are actually following the teachings of the Catholic Church. We are not seeing the end game over abortion that is really about eliminating family planning and contraception altogether. And it really that serious because the GOP will never give up on this issue despite most Americans supporting family planning.

The sacredness of the human sperm and egg is why the religious radicals are so adamant about ANYTHING interfering with the procreative process. And such opposition any BC method goes back to the dogma developed by Christian scholars over time for the last 2000 years.

In the end these zealots really really want to make family planning a crime. Remember that.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. I think you're entirely correct. We must not let these zealots win. We must not. n/t

[TheMastersNemesis]

6. I Spent 16 1/2 Years In Catholic Schools From 1950 To 1967.

I am as well versed in Catholic theology & dogma as anyone. And I have enough college hours to have a major in theology. So I
know more than even the average Catholic these days. And I can tell you that the Church was super paranoid about sexuality. The clergy was intent on making young Catholics paranoid about human sexuality.

Most Americans do not realize that the fight over women's reproductive rights follow precisely along what the Catholic church teaches Catholics all over the world. The dogma has not changed at all since I quit as a Catholic in 1967.

These fundy preachers are completely stupid about the Bible or anything else theologically. They are nothing more than con artists and charlatans.

[Man from Pickens]

20. My Bible Belt experience concurs

based on the data points I've collected so far, there seems to be a logarithmic relationship between how Christian someone claims to be and how much you have to watch your back

[Liberal_in_LA]

2. only the egg is sacred to them

[Fumesucker]

3. Original sin..

Up until the child is born it is sinless, after that he or she is a fallen creature in need of salvation.

I agree, the final aim of the fundamentalists/evangelicals is a theocracy in which their religion is the iron law of the land. What saves us is they can't agree on which flavor is to be the official one, they get that little wrinkle ironed out and we are in serious trouble because these people are at least half a bubble off plumb.

[Panich52]

16. Because their desire to control women is religion-based, that adds legal argument

Roe was largely decided on privacy. Since some so-called originalists (hypocrits) don't see that word in the Constitution, they claim Roe flawed. But nearly every single anti-choice (incld BC) are based on scriptural teaching, they're unconstitutional. But arguing that point, esp w/ a Catholic SCOTUS majority who favors Biblical law, is doomed.

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[Old and In the Way]

4. Personally, I killed 4 trillion human potentials...

Why don't I feel bad? I was a little Hitler all my life.

[guillaumeb]

5. I also was raised Catholic in a small town

went to a Catholic school, was an altar attendant. When I was in final year of primary, the Pastor ran off with Sister Superior to get married. Many adults claimed they were shocked but we males thought it was truly funny. Pastor always went very heavy on the wine, light on the water.

The above was not on topic but if the human sperm and egg are so sacred to Fundamentalists, why is the product of those two, the actual child, of no consequence to Fundamentalists after the birth? Nothing to do with children and everything to do with control.

"The Handmaid's Tale" by Margaret Atwood used to be fiction, but Canada's gift to the hemisphere was very prophetic.

[TheMastersNemesis]

8. I Was Also An Altar Boy In Grade School.

Our pastor liked the wine as well. He never ran off though. He was a decent man and extremely devoted. However, I had a college instructor a Franciscan priest who ran off with a female teacher at my Catholic college. And I found out years later that a nun in my art classes left the convent and got married.. Times were a changing in the mid 1960's.

[guillaumeb]

10. but the pendulum has moved back

so far to the right that it nearly fell off the clock. Between the Fundamentalists and the Tea Partiers the calendars might soon start moving backwards. About back to 1850 or so.

[MohRokTah]

7. Remember, the Earth, Sun, and Moon are sacred to moderate Pagans.

[blkmusclmachine]

9. "In the end these zealots really really want to make family planning a crime."

+1000.

But I wonder ... will they make women wear burqas, too???

[niyad]

11. this is what feminists have been saying for decades. this isn't just about abortion--this is

about complete control of women's sexuality.

I remember all the nonsense the priests and nuns spewed out about sex. and I kept pointing out that it seemed strange for them to be talking about it, when none of them were (supposedly) having it.

[MANative]

12. Tiny quibble...

I disagree that it's about complete control of women's sexuality.

It's about complete control of women.

[niyad]

13. yes, thank you. you are absolutely correct.

[onecaliberal]

14. This is about control nothing more nothing less.

Fuck your religious excuse.

[hunter]

15. Our Catholic family was never so tightly strung.

I think we tried all the things "You would literally die if you did them," and then when we didn't die we started to have some suspicions...

I mean, once you get past a certain point, what's to lose???

My parents, and my wife's parents, arts and sciences types, who all at one time or another worked in some very troubled communities, didn't have a much trouble talking honestly about sex or birth control.

We raised our kids in the same atmosphere of educated liberal Catholic heresy.

[JEB]

17. Bumper sticker idea borrowed from skate boarders...

Family Planning is Not a Crime!

[Man from Pickens]

18. I'm just going to drop this here

[DeSwiss]

22. Which dovetails nicely with this:

- I think with the Catholics it's 20 Hail Marys and 10 Our Fathers if you get caught wearing French Ticklers......

[libodem]

19. .

[BrotherIvan]

21. But we cheer the Pope still, right?

[DeSwiss]

23. Sex!

- K&R