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If only Spitzer learnt to keep his pecker in his pocket (Original Post) srican69 Feb 2015 OP
If only the NSA hadn't been unconstitutionally spying on him OnyxCollie Feb 2015 #1
Right Renew Deal Feb 2015 #5
Hey, at least he used his own money to pay for their services n/t markpkessinger Feb 2015 #6
Yes, good point. Renew Deal Feb 2015 #16
That's quite correct Man from Pickens Feb 2015 #7
Spitzer himself went after others for prostitution also JI7 Feb 2015 #17
Not exactly Renew Deal Feb 2015 #19
not terribly relevant to my point Man from Pickens Feb 2015 #22
this sets him apart in what way from the rest? reddread Feb 2015 #24
Interesting theory but he wasn't exactly good at being governor. hrmjustin Feb 2015 #2
or.... guillaumeb Feb 2015 #3
Consensual sex between adults is none of my business. ZX86 Feb 2015 #4
It wasn't just a cheating scandal Renew Deal Feb 2015 #8
Prostitution shouldn't be illegal. ZX86 Feb 2015 #9
There's also the hypocrisy tammywammy Feb 2015 #12
The single most important aspect of any politician is their ego. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #10
Spitzer the Zipster Blue Owl Feb 2015 #11
something like this you mean? ND-Dem Feb 2015 #13
lol.. srican69 Feb 2015 #23
"in his POCKET" (emphasis added) ? nt LiberalElite Feb 2015 #14
My gut reaction was "I agree", but I'm not so sure when I think about it. Renew Deal Feb 2015 #15
Spitzer said he would not support Weiner for Mayor over Weiner's sexting JI7 Feb 2015 #18
While at the same time running for City Comptroller Renew Deal Feb 2015 #20
yes, that's why spitzer said he would not support him JI7 Feb 2015 #21
 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
1. If only the NSA hadn't been unconstitutionally spying on him
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 10:30 PM
Feb 2015

and then passing their info to the FBI...

Renew Deal

(81,860 posts)
5. Right
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 10:34 PM
Feb 2015

Because the problem wasn't the prostitutes, it was that everyone found out about the prostitutes.

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
7. That's quite correct
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 10:44 PM
Feb 2015

Having a surveillance state, and then using that apparatus to take down the biggest threat to Wall Street in the modern era is a LOT bigger problem than Spitzer visiting prostitutes.

Renew Deal

(81,860 posts)
19. Not exactly
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 12:54 AM
Feb 2015
Eliot Spitzer knew how to catch bad guys by following the money.

As attorney general, he once broke up a call-girl ring and locked up 18 people on corruption, money-laundering and prostitution charges. He ruthlessly investigated the pay packages of Wall Street executives and was so familiar with shady financial maneuvers that he rose to become the top racketeering prosecutor in Manhattan.

But in the end, it appears that Spitzer may have been done in by the same behavior he built a career out of prosecuting.

In fact, it seems he was tripped up by some of the very financial accounting methods he used so successfully against multibillion-dollar Wall Street firms.

For one thing, the governor initially drew the attention of federal investigators because of cash payments to an account operated by a call-girl ring, according to a law enforcement official who spoke on condition of because of the sensitivity of the case.
<snip>

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/spitzer-caught-article-1.288370
 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
22. not terribly relevant to my point
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 01:08 AM
Feb 2015

but I do concede that it does make him a raging hypocrite

Our loss is bigger than his, though.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
24. this sets him apart in what way from the rest?
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 11:37 AM
Feb 2015

given they are all whores themselves.
you cant throw a rock without hitting somebody who does the same or worse in that arena.
this was a take down.
easy as pie.

ZX86

(1,428 posts)
4. Consensual sex between adults is none of my business.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 10:33 PM
Feb 2015

The sooner people get over icky bodily functions the better.

ZX86

(1,428 posts)
9. Prostitution shouldn't be illegal.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 11:22 PM
Feb 2015

It was about sex. What people do with their naughty bits is not my business or anyone else (except maybe his wife). A good public servant lost his job because of consensual sex.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
10. The single most important aspect of any politician is their ego.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 11:25 PM
Feb 2015

Unfortunately, for most it is also their greatest weakness.

Renew Deal

(81,860 posts)
15. My gut reaction was "I agree", but I'm not so sure when I think about it.
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 12:50 AM
Feb 2015

I was a big supporter of Spitzer going into that governors race (2006). While watching the race I got the sense that Spitzer was flying by on his reputation. Then I got to attend one of the gubernatorial debates. Spitzer was sort of light on policy and I got the sense that he had a certain arrogantness towards the race. Suozzi came across as knowledgeable, caring, liberal, and professional. But in the end I was as happy as anyone that he won. We got our fighter in office. But he didn't have a compassion to match his toughness and that made for a tough time at governor. When I heard he was resigning I was shocked and disappointed. The lawman was breaking the law. It was a massive betrayal.

So my point is that although he was an excellent public servant at times before the news of his crimes came out, he actually might not have translated well to a national election. It's not as big of a loss as it seems.

Sadly, Suozzi was an excellent public servant and has lost three elections in a row. 2006 Governor Primary, 2009 County Executive, 2013 County Executive. Losing him is NY's loss.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
18. Spitzer said he would not support Weiner for Mayor over Weiner's sexting
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 12:54 AM
Feb 2015

in weiner's case he didn't even actually cheat on his wife. he just has some weirdness where he feels the need to expose himself to others and get comments.

Renew Deal

(81,860 posts)
20. While at the same time running for City Comptroller
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 12:56 AM
Feb 2015

The whole thing was crazy. Weiner got tripped up again. Spitzer lost in the primary.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
21. yes, that's why spitzer said he would not support him
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 12:59 AM
Feb 2015

but the whole thing was so uncomfortable. everyone knew what everyone was thinking when he was asked that question and the answer he gave.

but weiner would have easily won without the new sexting that came out then and spitzer may have won also.

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