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Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 02:03 AM Feb 2015

Millennials ditching their TV sets at a record rate

The biggest TV drama among millennials is playing off screen.

So far this season, younger viewers, the most important audience for advertisers, have ditched their TV sets at more than double the rate of previous years, new Nielsen figures show.

Traditional TV usage — which has been falling among viewers ages 18 to 34 at around 4 percent a year since 2012 — tumbled 10.6 percent between September and January.

In the era of smartphones and Netflix, it’s no surprise that traditional TV is losing relevance for younger viewers. But the sudden acceleration is alarming to even the most seasoned analysts.

“The change in behavior is stunning. The use of streaming and smartphones just year-on-year is double-digit increases,” Alan Wurtzel, NBCUniversal’s audience research chief, told The Post. “I’ve never seen that kind of change in behavior.”

http://nypost.com/2015/02/16/millenials-ditching-their-tv-sets-at-a-record-rate/

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Millennials ditching their TV sets at a record rate (Original Post) Jesus Malverde Feb 2015 OP
There is nothing worth watching jberryhill Feb 2015 #1
TCM is it but if they don't stop showing bad movies from the 50s-90s Warpy Feb 2015 #5
The freak shows are not freaky enough imho jberryhill Feb 2015 #7
Because of this, Internet providers will soon yeoman6987 Feb 2015 #13
There has never been more to watch or worth watching, Sen. Walter Sobchak Feb 2015 #20
Agree. Walter.. only I watch whole Seasons on Netflix @ mi casa. Cha Feb 2015 #136
True that.... rainbobryte Feb 2015 #26
Where's My Mother The Car when you need it? Kablooie Feb 2015 #29
THAT I would watch jberryhill Feb 2015 #110
It's on HULU, full run, nicely restored n/m Rosco T. Feb 2015 #126
On that I agree. jwirr Feb 2015 #108
Most programs are of the cookie cutter type. lpbk2713 Feb 2015 #2
The TV is full of shit. bravenak Feb 2015 #3
There's far more good stuff on than I can watch... Orsino Feb 2015 #79
lovin' better call saul lame54 Feb 2015 #103
Me too. bravenak Feb 2015 #104
I'm 32 Quackers Feb 2015 #4
So, Delphinus Feb 2015 #35
Not MY daughters (and their husbands.) elleng Feb 2015 #6
But are they using them to watch traditional TV? quakerboy Feb 2015 #24
Pretty much, I think. elleng Feb 2015 #25
maybe they need sports pstokely Feb 2015 #62
34 here, I have a 150 inch projector screen and a 40 inch TV - but I don't watch cable or satellite MillennialDem Feb 2015 #70
Yup two 50' inch and everything is linked to the computers. Katashi_itto Feb 2015 #92
I'm not bothering with cable if I can figure out how to get around MLB's blackout rules. LeftyMom Feb 2015 #8
Fellow Giants fan here, LeftyMom villager Feb 2015 #17
could try a VPN, but I think they're cracking down on those pstokely Feb 2015 #63
all those effing ads making up half the viewing time, ditched our tv 10 yrs ago nt msongs Feb 2015 #9
OMGosh, I hear ya on all the ads......we DVR everything worth watching.... a kennedy Feb 2015 #45
Commercials ruin everything. Initech Feb 2015 #10
This right here killbotfactory Feb 2015 #15
What you said! ^^^^ :) Dyedinthewoolliberal Feb 2015 #55
Wow. I've never seen a show with five minutes of content and 15 minutes of ads. onenote Feb 2015 #57
Ok that was a gross exaggeration. Initech Feb 2015 #75
Exactly. When roughly 1/3 of the scheduled time is actually ads... JHB Feb 2015 #111
it's a good thing if TV shows are full of lame talk shows and fake reality shit JI7 Feb 2015 #11
When Microsoft NBC is the closest thing we have to honest TV... jen1980 Feb 2015 #12
the game is over olddots Feb 2015 #14
I watch PBS, which I get over the air in HD, and the rest is all streaming Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2015 #16
+1 L0oniX Feb 2015 #84
My TV is on quite a bit. Half-Century Man Feb 2015 #18
Telvision? What's that? bobclark86 Feb 2015 #19
The 1% is flipping out that if the younger generation is off the drug they'll wake up. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2015 #21
The 1% have at least 3 drugs they are offering up and succeeding with. stillwaiting Feb 2015 #38
We're also realizing the system is rigged. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2015 #99
They still watch the same stuff. Codeine Feb 2015 #118
That's still a problem. The whole idea is to get citizens to become zombies at prime time. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2015 #121
Television programming has never been better (HBO series, in particular), but Marr Feb 2015 #22
Many of my senior friends are dumping cable Midnight Writer Feb 2015 #23
Two of five families in my family have gone off TV. oldandhappy Feb 2015 #27
If wasnt for ESPN SEC, I wouldnt have cable either Telcontar Feb 2015 #28
translation: cable networks have financial..not sure what to call it...need (?), greed (?) incentive GreatGazoo Feb 2015 #30
HBO, Showtime, AMC all have some good shows. Kablooie Feb 2015 #31
FX shows are good, too. The Americans is fantastic television, for instance alcibiades_mystery Feb 2015 #39
Love the Americans.... a kennedy Feb 2015 #46
Don't forget Archer, It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia and Man Seeking Woman. Initech Feb 2015 #76
HOLY SHITSNACKS! Codeine Feb 2015 #128
Last week's episode was classic Pam. Initech Feb 2015 #129
Indeed, we... onyourleft Feb 2015 #91
They're all available online somewhere, as long as you don't have to see them immediately Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2015 #86
I tried watching MSNBC online - too damned slow and even the videos are hard to watch. I may be jwirr Feb 2015 #113
A lot depends on how fast your Internet connection is Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2015 #117
That is what it does. I think maybe at my age I might just as well stick with cable. jwirr Feb 2015 #125
TV Free For 15 Years cantbeserious Feb 2015 #32
Think of this: Why should they pay to watch TV when they can access it for free? icymist Feb 2015 #33
Love this idea, but how do we get it onto our bigger screen tv??? a kennedy Feb 2015 #47
You can plug your computer into a TV with an HDMI or DVI cable RedCappedBandit Feb 2015 #54
You're kidding?? that's it?? Thanks so much..... a kennedy Feb 2015 #59
It works! Been doing it for three years.. nt snappyturtle Feb 2015 #64
It does depend on what ports your computer and TV have RedCappedBandit Feb 2015 #67
old computers don't have HDMI outputs, old TVs don't have HDMI, DVI, or VGA inputs pstokely Feb 2015 #65
Can still buy a converter/cable for DVI to RGB, DVI to HDMI, whatever RedCappedBandit Feb 2015 #66
Tube TVs only have RCA and Coax inputs nt pstokely Feb 2015 #133
That would be included in 'whatever' ;) RedCappedBandit Feb 2015 #137
Despite with this poster says, the Chromecast is AMAZING. Hosnon Feb 2015 #88
Check if you have a USB slot. Most TVs <10 yrs old do whatthehey Feb 2015 #80
Buy a Chromecast ($35). Hosnon Feb 2015 #89
Thanks for the link - I am going to buy one on my next paycheck. closeupready Feb 2015 #93
Be sure to check Best Buy (if there's one near you). Hosnon Feb 2015 #102
So yesterday, I purchased a Chromecast from the Best Buy near me here, but closeupready Mar 2015 #139
The Chromecast website probably has a tutorial. Hosnon Mar 2015 #140
You want a Roku box metalbot Feb 2015 #105
I airstream using my IPad through Apple TV. haikugal Feb 2015 #112
Hulu isn't exactly free onenote Feb 2015 #53
This is good to know......thanks for the info. a kennedy Feb 2015 #60
The internet-addicted millennials have far superior bullshit detectors Tsiyu Feb 2015 #34
The mass media is losing their battle to keep their exclusive license to feed lies to the masses...it is a disaster if mind control is your Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #83
There will always be people growing old, with poor eyesight and not so nimble fingers. nt kelliekat44 Feb 2015 #36
Good. Turn off the idiot box. Taitertots Feb 2015 #37
You DID read the article, didn't you? brooklynite Feb 2015 #40
Correct. The title for this article is dumb. n/t Dawgs Feb 2015 #43
20% fewer young adults watch prime time TV compared to 20 years ago Taitertots Feb 2015 #58
Well... RobinA Feb 2015 #44
The content on the screen is just as important Taitertots Feb 2015 #51
Not Really RobinA Feb 2015 #87
Texting/Facebook is communicating with your friends and loved ones Taitertots Feb 2015 #116
+1 Jamaal510 Feb 2015 #95
"Idiot boxes come in all sizes." GoCubsGo Feb 2015 #119
Should be 'ditching cable', not 'TV sets'. n/t Dawgs Feb 2015 #41
That's the ticket......the operation, not the vehicle. a kennedy Feb 2015 #49
It's not a complete month without holier than thou "I don't watch TV and neither should you" posts.. brooklynite Feb 2015 #42
"That thing you like sucks and is super horrible" is now a general cultural trope alcibiades_mystery Feb 2015 #48
+1 Jamaal510 Feb 2015 #96
If a work can't withstand criticism, it sucks. Why shut down open discussion alp227 Feb 2015 #98
I like my TV. bigwillq Feb 2015 #50
Never paid for TV in my entire adult life RedCappedBandit Feb 2015 #52
Cable/sat access is a near monopoly & way overpriced. leveymg Feb 2015 #56
If I ditch TV from Comcast . . . fadedrose Feb 2015 #61
My household consists of me, my son, and my grandson. I am the only one who djean111 Feb 2015 #68
Way to go milennials!!! Take it from this boomer, who watched in horror as Zorra Feb 2015 #69
they're ditching the delivery system, not the content fishwax Feb 2015 #71
I have a TV and a projector screen but no cable or satellite subscription MillennialDem Feb 2015 #72
I'm pretty sure my kids have never watched network tv cyberswede Feb 2015 #73
Great news GusBob Feb 2015 #74
Watching tv is passive and requires alot of patience. The reason internet is more popular is that craigmatic Feb 2015 #77
Something broke the cycle for me as well. Jesus Malverde Feb 2015 #78
The Internet has made me impatient with the newspaper. Arugula Latte Feb 2015 #109
If I could stream I would do this. MuseRider Feb 2015 #81
We used to have that problem. haikugal Feb 2015 #115
Didn't the latest report say that Broadband needed to be at least 25 Mbps download speed? MuseRider Feb 2015 #123
Awwww haikugal Feb 2015 #124
We're in the same boat. phylny Feb 2015 #120
I sure hope so MuseRider Feb 2015 #122
I ditched mine last year tabbycat31 Feb 2015 #82
Many posts on this thread confuse the device with the content. The consumption of filmed content Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #85
My millennial brothers and sisters are mind-numbed bots thoroughly smitten by the idiot box Populist_Prole Feb 2015 #90
Not me. Jamaal510 Feb 2015 #94
I signed up for FiOS last summer, for the first time in my adult life. closeupready Feb 2015 #97
Not just millennials KamaAina Feb 2015 #100
threw mine away 20+ years ago.... mike_c Feb 2015 #101
Just have to post this... Arugula Latte Feb 2015 #106
I see that in my house. The two millennials here are so glued to the gamers world and Netflix that jwirr Feb 2015 #107
I don't own a TV, and just recently canceled my Netflix. F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #114
A lot of us can't afford to give Comcrap 150+/month strategery blunder Feb 2015 #127
^ this lovemydog Feb 2015 #131
Dropping cable doesn't surprise me. Settling for watching on a computer screen, or worse, a phone... Silent3 Feb 2015 #130
My college aged daughter & boyfriend 4_TN_TITANS Feb 2015 #132
do they even have a TV or could they not get NBC OTA? pstokely Feb 2015 #134
Good.. they're catching up to me. The more tvs dumped.. the better it gets online... I've Cha Feb 2015 #135
TV isn't going anywhere - traditional services are. Initech Feb 2015 #138

Warpy

(111,270 posts)
5. TCM is it but if they don't stop showing bad movies from the 50s-90s
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 02:17 AM
Feb 2015

in garish color just because they're in color, I probably won't be keeping mine much longer except for DVDs.

Too much of it has become freak shows, catering to the worst people out there.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
7. The freak shows are not freaky enough imho
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 02:23 AM
Feb 2015

Some guy trying to pawn an alien Bigfoot he found in a storage locker doesn't do much for me.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
13. Because of this, Internet providers will soon
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 03:00 AM
Feb 2015

Limit the usage of how much streaming we can do. I heard some have already. I think that is horrible! I will keep cable as long as Comcast keeps unlimited streaming. How long will that be? Who knows but sooner then I believe.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
20. There has never been more to watch or worth watching,
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 03:43 AM
Feb 2015

We're if anything in a golden age of the television series format.

The difference is instead of 18,000,000 people watching Gunsmoke in unison at 7:30 on Monday nights, people are watching their shows whenever they feel like it. I do a lot of transatlantic flights. I watch entire seasons at once and pick it up again next year.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
110. THAT I would watch
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 03:54 PM
Feb 2015

It's interesting how many programs back then had surreal premises - My Favorite Martian, Mr. Ed, The Ghost and Mrs. Muir and the clones I Dream of Jeannie/Bewitched, The Munsters/Addams Family.
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
3. The TV is full of shit.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 02:12 AM
Feb 2015

When all of my shows move to apps like HBOgo and stuff, I'll end my cable again. I keep it for Shmeless, Better call Saul, GoT, House of Lies, etc. and HGTV.

Quackers

(2,256 posts)
4. I'm 32
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 02:15 AM
Feb 2015

I cancelled my cable subscription in December, 2011. I have Netflix, my iPad, and if I want new shows or movies, I buy digital copies from iTunes. I think I save way more money this way and I get to keep my digital content forever.

elleng

(130,964 posts)
6. Not MY daughters (and their husbands.)
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 02:18 AM
Feb 2015

They're 26 and 30, have large tvs, and think about getting larger ones.

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
24. But are they using them to watch traditional TV?
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 04:01 AM
Feb 2015

Smart TV's have become relatively affordable. Netflix doesn't register on the neilson data collection, as I understand it. So if thats all you watch, you might as well be reading a book as far as the ratings are concerned.

 

MillennialDem

(2,367 posts)
70. 34 here, I have a 150 inch projector screen and a 40 inch TV - but I don't watch cable or satellite
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 10:35 AM
Feb 2015

just use the tv and screen for netflix / amazon prime. Also buy blu rays and DVDs and sometimes play PC (video) games on the screen.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
92. Yup two 50' inch and everything is linked to the computers.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 01:44 PM
Feb 2015

I think Buffy was the last show I watched.

The movie I am producing and directing is aimed just to digital distribution venues.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
8. I'm not bothering with cable if I can figure out how to get around MLB's blackout rules.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 02:24 AM
Feb 2015

Everything else that I want I can find easily enough, and I finally found a decent standalone internet deal.

If it weren't a complete fucking ripoff I'd pay for it. But money's tight and that's a pretty painless way to carve $80 or so out of the budget.

I still have a ginormous TV, but I've had it forever. It's awesome for sports and movies.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
17. Fellow Giants fan here, LeftyMom
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 03:34 AM
Feb 2015

On the other hand, being a Bay Area ex-pat -- since I'm down in El Lay now -- I get to see more "home" games of the black-and-orange that way...

pstokely

(10,528 posts)
63. could try a VPN, but I think they're cracking down on those
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 10:04 AM
Feb 2015

at least you don't live in Iowa where 6 teams claim the whole state

a kennedy

(29,672 posts)
45. OMGosh, I hear ya on all the ads......we DVR everything worth watching....
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:34 AM
Feb 2015

and just fly through the advertisements. It's just unbearable though when football is on. Ugh.....

Initech

(100,080 posts)
10. Commercials ruin everything.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 02:31 AM
Feb 2015

Who wants to pay $160 a month to watch five minutes of programming and 15 minutes of ads? Answer: Um... NOBODY!!! I'd rather get the season passes off iTunes then I can watch the shows I want at the pace I want.

killbotfactory

(13,566 posts)
15. This right here
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 03:10 AM
Feb 2015

Watching regular TV is like trying to read a book where some asshole slaps it out of your hand and tries to sell you shit for a couple minutes after every few pages.

fuck that.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
57. Wow. I've never seen a show with five minutes of content and 15 minutes of ads.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:52 AM
Feb 2015



I have a DVR service that lets me record up to ten shows and I can watch them upstairs, downstairs, in my bedroom when I want while skipping the commercials. While I also can watch content on my laptop or phone, i find that very unappealing compared to watching on a 60 inch screen with surround sound while curled up on my couch.

Different strokes for different folks.

Initech

(100,080 posts)
75. Ok that was a gross exaggeration.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 11:07 AM
Feb 2015

But I was watching "24: Live Another Day" on DVD and with that show its really easy to count how much time passes in commercial breaks. In a 1 hour episode there's exactly 4 breaks and each break lasts almost exactly 5 minutes. I was kind of using that as the basis for my claim.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
111. Exactly. When roughly 1/3 of the scheduled time is actually ads...
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 03:54 PM
Feb 2015

...people are going to watch what they want through means that don't qualify as "traditional TV".

 

jen1980

(77 posts)
12. When Microsoft NBC is the closest thing we have to honest TV...
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 02:43 AM
Feb 2015

and it is pretty damn biased, there is nothing worth watching. They lost their backbone years ago. You can really tell that they hate us and no longer have respect for us.

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
16. I watch PBS, which I get over the air in HD, and the rest is all streaming
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 03:13 AM
Feb 2015

Netflix, Hulu Plus, Acorn TV, and MHz Worldview provide more than I have time to watch.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
38. The 1% have at least 3 drugs they are offering up and succeeding with.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:21 AM
Feb 2015

TV, Internet, Smartphones...

Now, which would YOU prefer?!?!

Distract and divide is the name of game, and we're all ((U.S. citizens that is) mostly) playing along with the script.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
118. They still watch the same stuff.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 07:16 PM
Feb 2015

They're just using a new delivery system, and one in no way less corporately-owned than traditional tv.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
22. Television programming has never been better (HBO series, in particular), but
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 03:50 AM
Feb 2015

you just don't need a television to watch those shows. Television isn't even the most practical delivery medium for people who are accustomed to watching movies on tablets or computers.

Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
23. Many of my senior friends are dumping cable
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 03:51 AM
Feb 2015

They are buying antennas for local news, but they could care less about the cable programming. Too shallow, too stupid, too violent, too profane. And too expensive. My cable bill increases at least twice per year.

What is popular in our area is METV and THIS, both broadcast networks that show programming from the fifties, sixties and seventies.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
27. Two of five families in my family have gone off TV.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 04:12 AM
Feb 2015

Several friends have gone off TV. They get everything on their laptops or smart phones. I am in a condo situation and have to pay for the cable anyway, so I do use the TV. But mostly I am on the computer.

 

Telcontar

(660 posts)
28. If wasnt for ESPN SEC, I wouldnt have cable either
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 04:18 AM
Feb 2015

Netflicks, HBO Togo, and Amazon are my usual fare, with Discover and History Channel and TEDS tossed in.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
30. translation: cable networks have financial..not sure what to call it...need (?), greed (?) incentive
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 04:47 AM
Feb 2015

to follow this group to internet delivery of media and try to continue to be gate keeper$, which is why they want to strike down net neutrality.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
31. HBO, Showtime, AMC all have some good shows.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 04:48 AM
Feb 2015

But I haven't watched broadcast TV in ages.

(But my wife watches game shows during the day.)

Initech

(100,080 posts)
76. Don't forget Archer, It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia and Man Seeking Woman.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 11:11 AM
Feb 2015

Love Archer this season. The last episode where they get stuck in the elevator.... Holy crap!

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
86. They're all available online somewhere, as long as you don't have to see them immediately
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 12:27 PM
Feb 2015

I can even catch up on missed PBS shows because I have their "channel" on my Roku streaming device.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
113. I tried watching MSNBC online - too damned slow and even the videos are hard to watch. I may be
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 04:09 PM
Feb 2015

too old to understand how it works at 73. I pay for cable $20 a month and watch only the nightly news shows, HGTV, Link and occasionally something just for fun like SNL 40th and the dog show on Sunday. I am on the computer most of the time.

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
117. A lot depends on how fast your Internet connection is
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 07:13 PM
Feb 2015

If it's weak, the video will be jerky and keep reloading.

icymist

(15,888 posts)
33. Think of this: Why should they pay to watch TV when they can access it for free?
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 06:38 AM
Feb 2015

Look at Hulu and look at TV Fanatic. There's no reason to pay for TV when it is on the internet for free.

a kennedy

(29,672 posts)
47. Love this idea, but how do we get it onto our bigger screen tv???
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:38 AM
Feb 2015

Is there some link we do to get shows from our computer to our tv?? we've got a fairly large computer screen, but not big enough to watch from our comfy chairs. Is there such a device?? Thanks.

RedCappedBandit

(5,514 posts)
54. You can plug your computer into a TV with an HDMI or DVI cable
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:50 AM
Feb 2015

Or use google's crappy little chromecast device which I wouldn't recommend

HDMI cable costs two bucks. Good to go.

a kennedy

(29,672 posts)
59. You're kidding?? that's it?? Thanks so much.....
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:54 AM
Feb 2015

Have talked about cutting the cable connection before, but are seriously considering it now.....has just gotten way to expensive for stuff we WON'T EVER watch. So thank you so much for your suggestion.

RedCappedBandit

(5,514 posts)
67. It does depend on what ports your computer and TV have
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 10:16 AM
Feb 2015

but whatever the case, you can buy the appropriate cable.

Hosnon

(7,800 posts)
88. Despite with this poster says, the Chromecast is AMAZING.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 01:33 PM
Feb 2015

It's cheap, simple to use, and Google periodically pushes rental credits to each Chromecast. My boyfriend and I had $18 of credit for "Valentine's Day"!

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
80. Check if you have a USB slot. Most TVs <10 yrs old do
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 11:20 AM
Feb 2015

Typically they will play .mp4 format files best, just by changing the input to the USB slot (often called "media" on the menu), and you can download these either legally for a fee from various providers or illicitly but free from torrent sites as your conscience dictates.

Hosnon

(7,800 posts)
102. Be sure to check Best Buy (if there's one near you).
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 03:35 PM
Feb 2015

The Chromecast often has great deals, the most recent being $20 of free Google Play credit.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
139. So yesterday, I purchased a Chromecast from the Best Buy near me here, but
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 02:57 PM
Mar 2015

I was unable to get it working. My Samsung smart TV doesn't seem to want to detect it - am I doing something wrong? What is the best tutorial/troubleshooting video out there? I will have to return it if I can't figure it out. Bummed.

Hosnon

(7,800 posts)
140. The Chromecast website probably has a tutorial.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 08:10 PM
Mar 2015

As long as it's plugged into an HDMI port, you should be able to switch inputs to access it. You'll need to download the app on your phone or tablet, too.

metalbot

(1,058 posts)
105. You want a Roku box
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 03:44 PM
Feb 2015

Inexpensive, low power device that will hook to your wireless internet and stream Netflix/Hulu/HBOGo/Amazon/YouTube/more directly to your TV. Decent user interface, and has a remote. No monthly cost for Roku, though you'll obviously pay providers (Netflix, etc) for subscriptions.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
112. I airstream using my IPad through Apple TV.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 04:05 PM
Feb 2015

Works great. I can do everything but turn things on, off or do volume, I have to use remotes for that. I remember well having to get up to change channels etc. this is nice.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
53. Hulu isn't exactly free
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:49 AM
Feb 2015

You need an Internet service for which you pay. And if you want Hulu Plus, you pay a subscription fee. And there are commercials on both Hulu and Hulu Plus programming.

Hulu, by the way, is owned by NBC, Fox and Disney. And they're fine with offering "free" streaming service up to a point; but if at some point it cuts too deeply into their revenues from cable and satellite services, they will find a way to recover the revenue, probably by increasing licensing fees to other streaming services.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
34. The internet-addicted millennials have far superior bullshit detectors
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 08:17 AM
Feb 2015

than the ones their TV-addicted Boomer parents have.

They're drowning in student loans, unable to move forward, so, no, they do not want to listen to one more second of chirpy "everything-is-great-go-buy-this-new-thing" programming.

Not that they don't have their amusements. They are simply far less willing to be pandered to than their parents, who love being told lies so they don't have to do anything about the truth.

The Democratic party leaders could take note, but they won't.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
83. The mass media is losing their battle to keep their exclusive license to feed lies to the masses...it is a disaster if mind control is your
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 11:36 AM
Feb 2015

mission.

brooklynite

(94,592 posts)
40. You DID read the article, didn't you?
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:26 AM
Feb 2015

It didn't say people weren't watching programming ; just that they're not watching cable-based and OTA on TV sets.

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
58. 20% fewer young adults watch prime time TV compared to 20 years ago
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:53 AM
Feb 2015

Unless you want to make the claim that Internet video should be included in "idiot box", then I stand behind my statement.

RobinA

(9,893 posts)
44. Well...
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:33 AM
Feb 2015

Idiot boxes come in all sizes. I don't see millenials giving up screens. In fact, most of them have far more screens and spend way more attention on them than straight TV addicts. I have yet to see anybody sitting in a restaurant with friends or a date watching a TV. However, the phone generation...

And really, the phone thing is not just millenials. I'm 57 and I have friends who can't seem to put their phones down, even on vacation. My friend used to read several books on our weeklong vacations at the beach. This past year she played Candy Crush the whole time.

So, in my opinion, the screen is ever more dominant, it just might not be a TV.

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
51. The content on the screen is just as important
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:47 AM
Feb 2015

Is candy crush 1/3rd commercials?

Can we at least agree that watching 30 minutes of commercials on dancing with the stars is quantifiably different from other forms of new media?

RobinA

(9,893 posts)
87. Not Really
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 01:24 PM
Feb 2015

I don't distinquish much between commercials, Dancing with the Stars, Candy Crush, Facebook or texting. All are time sucks that are fine as a diversion, but not fine as a substitute for life. Whether a Boomer is spending her life in front of the TV or a millenial goes through her day with her phone in hand texting and twitting through life, I regard them as basically the same.

Read a damn book about something, build something, make something, learn something new, meet a new bunch of people, play a game. Come home and relax with a screen sometimes, but they're best used like any opiate - in small doses.

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
116. Texting/Facebook is communicating with your friends and loved ones
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 07:03 PM
Feb 2015

"Read a damn book about something, build something, make something, learn something new, meet a new bunch of people, play a game."
Sorry to break it to you, but people use computers/smart phones to do all those things. It appears that your only complaint is that they are not doing them the same way as you.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
119. "Idiot boxes come in all sizes."
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 07:29 PM
Feb 2015

Yep. Smart phones and iPads have taken over TV sets as the new idiot boxes. I can't tell you how many sporting events I have watched where people in the stands are more interested in what's on their phones than in the game on which they just spent a small fortune to attend. You spend hundreds of dollars for seats on the glass at a hockey game, and you don't watch the game?

Even at the gym, they can't put the damn things down. Last night, there were 4 of us in the sauna. Three of them were playing on their smart phones. It was 180 degrees in there, and they're so fucking attached to those things that they can't even put them down under conditions that could damage them.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
48. "That thing you like sucks and is super horrible" is now a general cultural trope
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:39 AM
Feb 2015

The Busybody is valued cultural character.

People need to mind they own.

alp227

(32,027 posts)
98. If a work can't withstand criticism, it sucks. Why shut down open discussion
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 02:24 PM
Feb 2015

with telling people "to mind they own"?

RedCappedBandit

(5,514 posts)
52. Never paid for TV in my entire adult life
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:47 AM
Feb 2015

most others I know are the same

Doesn't even make sense to pay what cable tv costs to watch horrible shows, 50% of the time it's nauseating commercials, and you have no choice of when to even watch.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
56. Cable/sat access is a near monopoly & way overpriced.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:51 AM
Feb 2015

A lot of people 18-34 simply can't afford to view in to cable/sat TV, so they do something cheaper. Same reason that the movie industry is suffering.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
61. If I ditch TV from Comcast . . .
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:56 AM
Feb 2015

It will be because I don't watch much besides news programs. MSNBC has prison programs when I need news, and CNN has so much on that isn't news they should rename their network to ABN -anything but news. I like many of the news shows, but my biggest complaint is:

There are so many commercials. You could count 10 or 15 short commercials a few times on every program which shatters my concentration. I can't figure out why I pay so much for Comcast and STILL get so many commercials.

They are making a ton of money on us. There ought to be a law. Watching TV is expensive, and the younger people figured this out. Trouble is, older people like me don' have the nimble fingers required to text and play around with finding things that take as much agility as learning a new invention.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
68. My household consists of me, my son, and my grandson. I am the only one who
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 10:33 AM
Feb 2015

has a FIOS set top box. The guys watch whatever they want to, online. The mantra is - why worry about watching something RIGHT NOW, when it will be repeated a hundred times and/or be available online? This is not a holier than thou because I don't watch TV, this is just a different way of getting entertainment. In fact, they both would rather binge on a series, all at once, than bother with watching weekly, except for a very few shows, like Banshee or GOT. They do play WOW a lot. I still watch TV, but there are very few shows I really make sure I watch each week.

I just think the days of sitting in front of a TV all evening and really just watching the least boring show, if there is not a show someone really wants to watch - that's getting to be so over.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
69. Way to go milennials!!! Take it from this boomer, who watched in horror as
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 10:35 AM
Feb 2015

a significant percentage of her generation underwent a full on corporate sponsored video lobotomy, and went from Woodstock to money loving Reagan voting corporate butt sucking zombie yuppie scum.

Kill your television. Drive a wooden stake through its corporate heart.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
71. they're ditching the delivery system, not the content
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 10:41 AM
Feb 2015

"TV" is in many ways better than its ever been, it just isn't available exclusively (or in some cases at all) through traditional broadcast or cable.

 

MillennialDem

(2,367 posts)
72. I have a TV and a projector screen but no cable or satellite subscription
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 10:41 AM
Feb 2015

I watch Netflix and Amazon Prime
I buy Blu Rays and DVDs
I sometimes play computer games on the projector screen
I also have two monitors for my computer and play a lot of video games and will often watch youtube like secular talk, the young turks, david pakman, bill maher, jon stewart, and other things you can't watch on netflix or amazon prime.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
73. I'm pretty sure my kids have never watched network tv
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 11:01 AM
Feb 2015

We never watch - I don't even know what the current shows are on the big 3 networks.

The kids do watch some cable shows (ESPN, HGTV, Nick), but a lot more Netflix.

If it weren't for soccer, we'd cancel satellite.

Oh wait...I forgot that my 12 y.o. daughter and I are watching Agent Carter. She freaked out after the first episode when I told her we'd have to wait a week for the next episode to be aired. She'd never heard of that before.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
74. Great news
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 11:02 AM
Feb 2015

12years TV free next month....and no holier than thou for me.....after a few clicks on the Internet I figured there were no WMDs in Iraq and that turned out to be correct, at a price that cost many lives and continues to do so today. The networks were lying to us about the war and drooling about the ratings. I hope they go out of business


 

craigmatic

(4,510 posts)
77. Watching tv is passive and requires alot of patience. The reason internet is more popular is that
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 11:13 AM
Feb 2015

I can read articles here on DU while listening to some new story on youtube. The point is that it's interactive. The sad part is that I used to love tv and have more than 100 channels but just don't have the patience to watch like I used to.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
78. Something broke the cycle for me as well.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 11:17 AM
Feb 2015

I used to consume television news with passion, then somewhere along the way I realized it was consuming me.

I see it time and time again here as posts with people who are reacting to what they saw on TV. That one way medium is doomed.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
109. The Internet has made me impatient with the newspaper.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 03:51 PM
Feb 2015

My husband and I used to spend hours on Sunday mornings going through the paper. Now I hardly glance at it. I think: "Hmm, this news is already old and I can find more interesting things to read with a mouseclick or two."

MuseRider

(34,111 posts)
81. If I could stream I would do this.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 11:20 AM
Feb 2015

As it is now it takes around 3 days to download a movie where I live and that is IF I can download. It sucks so badly here that it usually takes a long time for a 30 second YouTube to buffer. There is no streaming with the speeds we have at the top offered package. Tower to tower wireless sucks.

I see so many things going to streaming and it scares me that we will be left with only old TV soap operas one day soon.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
115. We used to have that problem.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 04:36 PM
Feb 2015

It was the mid 90's before they delivered cable to us and early 90's we had sat TV. Until then we got three channels and one was PBS, thanks Obama! Did I say it was grim? We don't watch "the news" anymore other than occasionally and that's TYT or Al Jazeera. I can podcast Democracy Now. We have some things we watch but hardly anything compared to what was normal in the past. I do almost everything through the computer. We need upgraded Internet delivery in this country.

MuseRider

(34,111 posts)
123. Didn't the latest report say that Broadband needed to be at least 25 Mbps download speed?
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 10:39 PM
Feb 2015

If we had broadband that would be 25 times higher than what we get. Most times it is down below 1 Mbps. We are hoping for another tower that is a little closer to us, hoping they don't end up overloading it so that we have to get up in the middle of the night to get anything on the net that needs more than that. It certainly seems like other countries do much better but then again my state is willfully running backwards (Brownbackwards) as fast as it can. There is no place like homophobia as I think it was Jon Stewart who said that? I don't know we could not get the show, the satellite is bad out here too.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
124. Awwww
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 11:03 PM
Feb 2015

Damn you are in the middle of nowhere! I know how you feel...

Yes this country needs to deal with our problems and upgrade our infrastructure, seriously. I know exactly how frustrating it can be

phylny

(8,380 posts)
120. We're in the same boat.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 07:43 PM
Feb 2015

I visited one of our daughters near Asheville, NC, and I was absolutely amazed - all kinds of programs, instantly! Yes, she has cable Internet, and we have satellite. I hope one day we'll catch up to the rest of civilization.

MuseRider

(34,111 posts)
122. I sure hope so
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 10:34 PM
Feb 2015

because I love to watch good shows, there are quite a lot of them actually but I have found that the movie channels have moved to mostly crap and some to old TV shows while you can get the good (or better) movies but you have to stream or download them.

I love where I live but I absolutely hate that we have no service. I am lucky to be able to post and there are sometimes weeks that go by that we really can't. I HATE it but it is what it is.

tabbycat31

(6,336 posts)
82. I ditched mine last year
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 11:32 AM
Feb 2015

And I don't really miss it. I have Amazon Prime and Netflix and I do watch TV in bed on my Kindle, but no commercials and some better quality programming (Breaking Bad, House of Cards, etc).

I don't see myself going back.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
85. Many posts on this thread confuse the device with the content. The consumption of filmed content
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 11:55 AM
Feb 2015

has never been higher. It's the delivery and viewing methods that change. From the article: " Millennials are watching online video from Netflix, Amazon Prime, HBO GO and other “streaming” sources.

Consumption of video is bigger than ever. Wurtzel’s research shows a year-over-year increase of 22 percent in subscription video viewing in 2014, and a 26 percent rise in “binge viewing.”


Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
90. My millennial brothers and sisters are mind-numbed bots thoroughly smitten by the idiot box
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 01:41 PM
Feb 2015

No discrimination in their tastes whatsoever. They are "TV Inc"s dream: The perfect example of "if it's on TV, I'll watch it", and engage in all manner of banal chatter with each other and anybody else within earshot about this or that show.

Funny because though I rarely watch ( other than TCM ) but when I'm exposed to it, most of the programming sure does seem to be aimed at that age group.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
94. Not me.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 01:53 PM
Feb 2015

I tried going without cable around my apartment for a few months just to save money, but I couldn't do it. It was boring, and not everything I like to watch is available online.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
97. I signed up for FiOS last summer, for the first time in my adult life.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 01:58 PM
Feb 2015

Had never been a cable subscriber before, and didn't feel I was missing anything.

Now, I have to say that I enjoy it quite a bit. Lots of stuff that piques my interests, like "Chopped", "Schitt's Creek", "Life Below Zero", "Yukon Men", Al-Jazeera's documentaries, many of the films on Turner Classic Movies ... I DVR, and then FF through the commercials. I can envision a day when I'd be willing to let it go, but I'm not ready to do that at the moment.

I'm going to try Google's Chromecast and see how that fits my entertainment fancy, but I have a feeling I'm going to be a cable subscriber for a while.

Oh, yes, and FiOS picture quality is excellent, even better than the quality I see when I'm at the local pub watching the big screen over the bar.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
100. Not just millennials
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 02:28 PM
Feb 2015

I have a friend in her late 50's (I think) who doesn't have one. And another friend who just turned 40.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
101. threw mine away 20+ years ago....
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 03:11 PM
Feb 2015

Good riddance. I've never understood why anyone would want to spend hours of their lives every day staring at a flickering box.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
106. Just have to post this...
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 03:45 PM
Feb 2015

I know that it was written in a completely different era, a pre-Internet world, but still ...



Edited to say: I think there is a lot of great content on "TV" -- especially HBO, so I am not one of those holier-than-thous, too-good-for-TV, get-off-my-lawn types.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
107. I see that in my house. The two millennials here are so glued to the gamers world and Netflix that
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 03:47 PM
Feb 2015

they seldom know anything the I tell them about news. They also did not vote in 2014. Yet my grandson often says to me "we are just going to wait until all the old people die and then it is our turn." Wonder what he plans on doing when it is his turn?

They other day when we were talking about an oligarchy here on DU I decided to test him. I asked if he knew what it meant and the answer was "I have heard it before and it has something to do with government."

Where are they getting their news?

And how do ever hope to get them out to vote?

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
114. I don't own a TV, and just recently canceled my Netflix.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 04:14 PM
Feb 2015

I've found the money to be much better spent on Spotify and a good book everything I need is online, otherwise. I rarely watch tv shows and stuff anymore, preferring to just watch stuff on occassion with friends.

(ah, crap. Just remember I'm watching "The Bachelor" tonight with 3 friends. A truly god-awful, sexist, demeaning, idiotic, scripted, fake, and entirely useless show. But it makes for good conversation lol.)

strategery blunder

(4,225 posts)
127. A lot of us can't afford to give Comcrap 150+/month
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 11:41 PM
Feb 2015

Cable bills have risen at least twice as fast as inflation for all our lives.

Comca$t has been buying up the competition at least since I was in elementary school, if not earlier. (And I'm one of the older millenials)

Who the hell can afford cable?

There are less expensive delivery methods out there. Moreover they allow us to consume content a la carte--and the cable industry, er I mean, Comcrap has resisted a la carte cable for as long as I've been alive.

Comcrap needs to get with the times, and I say this as a Luddite as far as millenials are concerned. (I used a "dumb" cell phone until I got a smartphone for Christmas this past year LOL)

Silent3

(15,220 posts)
130. Dropping cable doesn't surprise me. Settling for watching on a computer screen, or worse, a phone...
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 12:37 AM
Feb 2015

...which is apparently what a lot of people end up doing, that's what seems a little sad.

Just when huge high-quality HD displays have become so much more affordable, and, for those who bother to take the trouble to set them up, sound systems to go with the big screens, now ironically more and more people are going back to watching movies and TV shows on tiny little screens with sound coming out of tinny little speakers.

Yes, computers, even some smartphones, can be hooked up to big TVs, but I get the impression most people don't bother. I'm not sure how many people are viewing streaming services through specialized media players like Roku or Apple TV hooked up to big TVs, but not so many that there still isn't a lot of viewing happening directly from laptop and phone screens.

4_TN_TITANS

(2,977 posts)
132. My college aged daughter & boyfriend
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 01:22 AM
Feb 2015

wanted to watch the Super Bowl but none of their friends their age had cable or satellite. They ended up streaming on NBC somehow.

Me and the wife gave up satellite because over 25% of everything on the tv was commercials. We'll get it back when they pay US to watch the damn ads.

Cha

(297,292 posts)
135. Good.. they're catching up to me. The more tvs dumped.. the better it gets online... I've
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 04:44 AM
Feb 2015

certainly noticed how much better everything I watch on my laptop has gotten since I first left my tv in New York. And, tv "news".. fuggeddiboudit.. I cancelled that in Nov 2002.

People on the go.. not tied into TV's schedule!

Initech

(100,080 posts)
138. TV isn't going anywhere - traditional services are.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 10:26 PM
Feb 2015

Nobody watches broadcast TV anymore on a regular schedule - DVR, VOD, and on demand are becoming the new normal and networks and content providers better get their shit together or they'll fail.

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