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Iris

(15,666 posts)
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 10:48 PM Feb 2015

I just saw someone claim on Facebook that when Bush was president, "readers" at DU threatened

to kill him daily.

I don't remember any of that. I remember a lot of hate but not a lot of "He's not worth a bullet" type posts. Anyone else remember DU folks wanting to kill Bush?

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I just saw someone claim on Facebook that when Bush was president, "readers" at DU threatened (Original Post) Iris Feb 2015 OP
It is a Republican attempt at moral equivalence. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #1
I don't remember that at all. Nite Owl Feb 2015 #2
I think we did a fantastic job of ridiculing Junior... ailsagirl Feb 2015 #17
There were occasional irresponsible remarks, quickly quashed. . . Journeyman Feb 2015 #3
They are full of shit. Nobody threatened to kill him, certainly not "daily" arcane1 Feb 2015 #4
Been here since Jan of 2002. There was a lot of ridicule salin Feb 2015 #5
That's what I remember. Constant ridicule. Iris Feb 2015 #10
Been here 10 years Tsiyu Feb 2015 #6
They'll say that in one breath and then TBF Feb 2015 #7
You're right about that. Iris Feb 2015 #11
Sure, cuz we all thought that Cheney would have been s-o-o-o much better, yeah? nt procon Feb 2015 #8
Right! And even with Cheney, Marie Marie Feb 2015 #20
That would've have gotten the poster an instaban. tkmorris Feb 2015 #9
I know. I know. It's just so irritating. Iris Feb 2015 #12
FB or IRL, Republicans are liars. nt tridim Feb 2015 #13
It rarely happened Renew Deal Feb 2015 #14
I remember a post from Skinner about the SS requesting info on a couple of posters. Lochloosa Feb 2015 #15
Daily? jberryhill Feb 2015 #16
Of course not. Not once. "Someone" was lying on Facebook.DU doesn't do that, as you should know. n/t Judi Lynn Feb 2015 #18
I do recall numerous calls for him and cheney BarbaRosa Feb 2015 #19
So.....there's a possibility that a Republican lied? And on Facebook, no less? merrily Feb 2015 #21
As far as I've ever seen, Skinner immediately bans anybody making a death threat. eom MohRokTah Feb 2015 #22
Read this, form your own opinion. An old post from Skinner. Glassunion Feb 2015 #23
thanks for the info. Iris Feb 2015 #26
I would forward that to the facebook "friend" Tsiyu Feb 2015 #33
It happened a couple of times, but it was rare Bjorn Against Feb 2015 #24
I've been here since the first year & anyone who threatened violence was tombstoned... countryjake Feb 2015 #25
Well ... Egnever Feb 2015 #27
Nope shenmue Feb 2015 #28
Me, either. I remember it that way as well. Iris Feb 2015 #29
Can you say projection? peace13 Feb 2015 #30
I remember it was READERS not POSTERS doing the threat. Vincardog Feb 2015 #31
No, we didn't. bush supporters lie.. big shocker. Cha Feb 2015 #32
I used to think it, but never said it. nruthie Feb 2015 #34
I may have shipped him a bag of pretzels! rufus dog Feb 2015 #35
Meta! Iggo Feb 2015 #36
I remember several volunteers to give him a blow-job if he would be impeached, but nah, Mnemosyne Feb 2015 #37
It's quite easy for them to rationalize their position. lpbk2713 Feb 2015 #38
Perhaps that kind of sentiment was present at times, but death threats are a big taboo bhikkhu Feb 2015 #39
I think it was like it is now MiniMe Feb 2015 #40
That would be a bald-faced lie, that would.Threatening to kill Pres. Bush was instant pizza delivery Hekate Feb 2015 #41
Nope. It didn't happen. McCamy Taylor Feb 2015 #42
No, it wasn't allowed on DU. Any posts like that would be removed and posters banned. nt CJCRANE Feb 2015 #43
facebook is a toilet olddots Feb 2015 #44

Nite Owl

(11,303 posts)
2. I don't remember that at all.
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 10:54 PM
Feb 2015

A lot of ridicule, name calling. Stuff like that for W and his associates (Cheney, Rumsfeld etc.)

ailsagirl

(22,899 posts)
17. I think we did a fantastic job of ridiculing Junior...
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 11:22 PM
Feb 2015

and his crazy henchmen

But that was about it-- it kept us from going completely

Journeyman

(15,038 posts)
3. There were occasional irresponsible remarks, quickly quashed. . .
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 10:54 PM
Feb 2015

I don't remember any assassination threats directed at Bush, but there were a few directed at various other people within his administration. Again, all quickly squelched.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
4. They are full of shit. Nobody threatened to kill him, certainly not "daily"
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 10:55 PM
Feb 2015

Conservatives aren't smart enough to know what "he should be tried for war crimes" means, so they dumb it down for themselves and that's the stupidity they walk away with.

salin

(48,955 posts)
5. Been here since Jan of 2002. There was a lot of ridicule
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 10:56 PM
Feb 2015

but I don't recall death threats.

I do recall that sometimes ridicule based on specific events could blur - such as when VP Cheney shot a friend in the face with buckshot... per ridicule of the event, going extreme (per role reversal) and callouts/moderation of the rhetoric that shot past the top.

There were not daily death threats. I would challenge anyone claiming such to dig through the archives. They will find some stupid stuff, and some hate. But I am pretty positive they would not find daily death threats.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
6. Been here 10 years
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 10:57 PM
Feb 2015

and that is a bunch of hooey. Anyone who posts threatening stuff gets that post hidden ( removed back then. )

There may have been many posters actively wishing he'd catch a hideous disease, or tat he'd fully choke on another pretzel, or that he'd meet some other painful end, but no one has ever been allowed to come on DU and claim they want to kill the president.

If they have, I never saw it. The facebook wingnut can find proof very easily if they are at all the truthful sort.

Rightwingers always project, though. Republicans are the most dishonest people who have ever walked the earth.

TBF

(32,090 posts)
7. They'll say that in one breath and then
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 10:59 PM
Feb 2015

report that we are all going to take away their guns. Why would we do so if we were planning on killing people?

Logic is not the strong suit of a republican.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
20. Right! And even with Cheney,
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 11:34 PM
Feb 2015

wishing him dead is not the same as threatening to kill him. Seemed to me more like karmic justice for all the death he is responsible for. But I can say that I never read anything about killing W.

tkmorris

(11,138 posts)
9. That would've have gotten the poster an instaban.
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 11:01 PM
Feb 2015

Somebody on Facebook is full of shit. There's a shock, eh?

Renew Deal

(81,871 posts)
14. It rarely happened
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 11:14 PM
Feb 2015

And if it was ever posted it would be hidden by the mods as "advocating violence." Basically, it's just not true.

Lochloosa

(16,068 posts)
15. I remember a post from Skinner about the SS requesting info on a couple of posters.
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 11:17 PM
Feb 2015

They had already been banned.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
16. Daily?
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 11:18 PM
Feb 2015

Do you mean that threats were made daily or that a threat was made to kill him every day?

Nobody can be killed daily. It can only be done once.

Judi Lynn

(160,621 posts)
18. Of course not. Not once. "Someone" was lying on Facebook.DU doesn't do that, as you should know. n/t
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 11:26 PM
Feb 2015

BarbaRosa

(2,685 posts)
19. I do recall numerous calls for him and cheney
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 11:33 PM
Feb 2015

to be hauled before a court of law, tried, convicted and sent off to a rather uncomfortable cell.

I do not remember the constant murderous hatered this President has endured for the six years.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
33. I would forward that to the facebook "friend"
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 12:16 AM
Feb 2015

or at least try to post it where they can see it.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
24. It happened a couple of times, but it was rare
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 11:48 PM
Feb 2015

In those rare cases that it did happen it led to a tombstone and I know that in at least one instance Skinner turned over info to the Secret Service.

I personally alerted on one threat that I saw and it was quickly removed and the poster banned, as much as we all despised Bush threats were never tolerated.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
25. I've been here since the first year & anyone who threatened violence was tombstoned...
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 11:55 PM
Feb 2015

immediately. No questions asked. And that was for threats of violence against any person, in any way. It was a firm rule, we all we aware of it, and no member in good standing ever did such a thing. There might have been an occasional Rovian troll come here to disrupt who made such sick posts like that but they would have been rare, their threads would be removed, and the troll kicked off our site.

Sure, the Shrub was the butt of a multitude of jokes back then and he might have been mocked daily, but we knew better than to rile up the ever-present Agent Mike.

I still say that I want to see him and all his cronies at the Hague, but calling for Justice is a damned sight different than threatening death.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
27. Well ...
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 12:03 AM
Feb 2015

if you consider sending him boxes of pretzels threatening to kill him then yes there was a lot of that here.

shenmue

(38,506 posts)
28. Nope
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 12:04 AM
Feb 2015

I'm pretty sure we wanted him to go to jail, but I don't remember killing being mentioned. Even remotely.

Iris

(15,666 posts)
29. Me, either. I remember it that way as well.
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 12:06 AM
Feb 2015

Interesting that there were 2 incidents but they seem to have been dealt with appropriately.

nruthie

(466 posts)
34. I used to think it, but never said it.
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 12:36 AM
Feb 2015

Even though we all detested the man I honestly can't recall anyone here ever actually saying they wanted to kill him. We weren't that blood-thirsty.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
35. I may have shipped him a bag of pretzels!
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 01:05 AM
Feb 2015

Seriously though, NO, a lot of he should be in jail, but not threats.

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
37. I remember several volunteers to give him a blow-job if he would be impeached, but nah,
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 01:11 AM
Feb 2015

have never seen anyone threaten to kill him, nor any 'not worth it' posts either.

lpbk2713

(42,766 posts)
38. It's quite easy for them to rationalize their position.
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 01:21 AM
Feb 2015



They figure ... "If Faux Snooze can make shit up then I can too."


bhikkhu

(10,724 posts)
39. Perhaps that kind of sentiment was present at times, but death threats are a big taboo
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 02:02 AM
Feb 2015

I don't remember reading any here.

I do remember hearing someone say in a personal conversation back then that they wish bush were just assassinated. I wasn't pleased, and changed the subject. Its just not something I'd say about anyone, myself, and I've always thought that feeling that way about someone you've never met is a bit pathological. Its easy enough to get there (thanks, internet), but if you are there taking a big step back is the thing to do.

MiniMe

(21,718 posts)
40. I think it was like it is now
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 04:01 AM
Feb 2015

We all (or at least most of us, I don't want to speak for everybody) want Bush & Cheney prosecuted for their war crimes, but I don't think any of us want somebody shot with no trial. I am not crazy about guns, so I don't want anybody "shot" at all.

Hekate

(90,793 posts)
41. That would be a bald-faced lie, that would.Threatening to kill Pres. Bush was instant pizza delivery
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 04:09 AM
Feb 2015

DUers called him many nasty names, but I distinctly recall there was a line that could not be crossed, for both moral and legal reasons. It was believed, probably correctly, that to allow those kinds of threats would put the owners of the site at risk for investigation by some very serious men.

Tell that to your Facebook acquaintance. We didn't do that here.

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