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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 05:35 PM Feb 2015

South Carolina Inmate Receives 37 Years In Solitary Confinement For Updating Facebook

Almost 400 inmates in South Carolina have spent time in solitary confinement for using social media websites, a violation the state Department of Corrections defines as equal to murdering or raping a fellow inmate, according to an Electronic Frontier Foundation investigation.

The digital rights group discovered through a public information request that prison officials have filed more than 400 disciplinary actions against prisoners who were found to be using cellphones smuggled behind bars to access Facebook or who gave their personal account information to friends or family to update their accounts. And since 2012, the South Carolina Department of Corrections has defined “creating and/or assisting with a social networking site” as a Level 1 offense, punishable by solitary confinement or the removal of privileges like phone access or visitation time.

Each time an inmate accesses Facebook is counted as a separate Level 1 violation, which leads to excessive punishments like inmates being put in isolation for years at a time, the report said.

“If a South Carolina inmate caused a riot, took three hostages, murdered them, stole their clothes, and then escaped, he could still wind up with fewer Level 1 offenses than an inmate who updated Facebook every day for two weeks,” the EFF said in its report.

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http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/02/13/3622848/solitary-south-carolina-facebook/

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South Carolina Inmate Receives 37 Years In Solitary Confinement For Updating Facebook (Original Post) n2doc Feb 2015 OP
That is just seriously crazy. stage left Feb 2015 #1
it is inhuman questionseverything Feb 2015 #18
Agreed. stage left Feb 2015 #32
Jesus H. progressoid Feb 2015 #2
What are they trying yo hide that they don't want made public? nt procon Feb 2015 #3
My thought also!!! gopiscrap Feb 2015 #4
Well, add another state to "Don't ever live there" state. nt ladjf Feb 2015 #5
Better yet, never get arrested in that state. n/t RebelOne Feb 2015 #6
Good advice. One would be wise to avoid visiting. Now-days the ladjf Feb 2015 #7
My list keeps getting longer -- for political reasons, crazies, gun-nuttery, LuckyLib Feb 2015 #19
another day in the hellhole that is America Ramses Feb 2015 #8
The prison system has an insatiable thirst for brown and black bodies. Exultant Democracy Feb 2015 #9
Now, imagine someone used their smuggled phone to post secret messages to other criminals. DetlefK Feb 2015 #10
Yeah, they use them to run gambling, drug, and extortion schemes from behind bars Ex Lurker Feb 2015 #11
The liberal side of me says SCVDem Feb 2015 #15
There are useful purposes for the rules. Gore1FL Feb 2015 #13
Oh, for fuck's sake. blackspade Feb 2015 #40
Former Confederate State............ Stainless Feb 2015 #12
The State that was at the front rpannier Feb 2015 #14
Ever see this picture before? Lancero Feb 2015 #21
+1 stage left Feb 2015 #34
Don't be *too* hard on S.C. as a whole, mind you. AverageJoe90 Feb 2015 #24
Change your name to Brainless. nt benz380 Feb 2015 #26
..... flygal Feb 2015 #37
Hmm stage left Feb 2015 #33
Dear Stainless: SCantiGOP Feb 2015 #35
Classy. nt cwydro Feb 2015 #36
Unconstitutional? Seems like cruel and unusual punishment. nt daredtowork Feb 2015 #16
Do inmates check in on Foursquare? KamaAina Feb 2015 #17
Interesting... xocet Feb 2015 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author damnedifIknow Feb 2015 #22
DOC's don't want inmates talking about the corruption davidn3600 Feb 2015 #23
It's about an urge to punish people. Has nothing to do with justice. Scuba Feb 2015 #25
I am amazed that visitors were able to smuggle in a phone and give it to an inmate. Shrike47 Feb 2015 #27
Well, it could be a visitor metalbot Feb 2015 #28
It could conceivably be done by drone davidpdx Feb 2015 #30
If only they could make it a crime to post cat pics on FB Orrex Feb 2015 #29
I agree it is excessive punishment davidpdx Feb 2015 #31
This is surreal! BeanMusical Feb 2015 #38
This is some crazy shit. blackspade Feb 2015 #39

stage left

(2,962 posts)
1. That is just seriously crazy.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 05:51 PM
Feb 2015

But no more than I expect from this benighted state I live in. I know personally of an inmate who was denied Canteen privileges, visitation rights, and telephone privileges because he gave some food he bought to another prisoner. What was the other guy going to do? Off someone with a bag of chips? Way to go, SC. Punish someone for having a generous heart.

37 years in solitary is beyond doubt cruel and unusual punishment. Even a murderer doesn't deserve that.

questionseverything

(9,655 posts)
18. it is inhuman
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 07:28 PM
Feb 2015

this is exactly the kind of thing the constitution was supposed to prohibit but the feds are too busy prosecuting medical mj patients on the west coast

stage left

(2,962 posts)
32. Agreed.
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 11:42 AM
Feb 2015

The amount of inhumanity this country is capable of just floors me. Is there anything that can be done about this horrible injustice?

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
7. Good advice. One would be wise to avoid visiting. Now-days the
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 06:16 PM
Feb 2015

police will shoot to kill without any credible reason.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
19. My list keeps getting longer -- for political reasons, crazies, gun-nuttery,
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 07:37 PM
Feb 2015

and anti-immigrant rabid behavior.

 

Ramses

(721 posts)
8. another day in the hellhole that is America
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 06:19 PM
Feb 2015

We have the most prisoners literally than any other country on the planet

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
9. The prison system has an insatiable thirst for brown and black bodies.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 06:25 PM
Feb 2015

And every good dairy farmer knows that keeping cattle already you have around to milk is cheaper then buying new ones.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
10. Now, imagine someone used their smuggled phone to post secret messages to other criminals.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 06:30 PM
Feb 2015

Would you THEN be okay with a hash punishment?

Sending someone to jail means punishing him with isolation. What's the point if the inmate can communicate with the people he is supposed to miss? What is the point of separating someone from his gang and then giving him the possibility to exchange with them?

There is a reason why these smartphones have to be SMUGGLED in: The inmates are supposed to be cut off from communication with the outside world.

Ex Lurker

(3,814 posts)
11. Yeah, they use them to run gambling, drug, and extortion schemes from behind bars
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 06:38 PM
Feb 2015

and in some cases to order hits on other inmates or people outside the prisons. There are a lot of seriously bad people who are incarcerated. Not everyone was wrongfully convicted or somehow a victim of society. Prisoners should not have access to cell phones. They just shouldn't. I will say that giving someone else their account info to post on social media shouldn't be prohibited.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
15. The liberal side of me says
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 07:06 PM
Feb 2015

What's the problem?

Then there's jury tampering, killing witnesses, controlling from behind bars and many other issues.

If we can't be safe from someone who is incarcerated, what's the point?

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
13. There are useful purposes for the rules.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 07:03 PM
Feb 2015

37 years of solitary seems an excessive punishment, however. Posting on social media having equal consequence to causing a riot, taking hostages, or murdering someone is more than a little unbalanced.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
14. The State that was at the front
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 07:05 PM
Feb 2015

Let's all remember that the Nullification Party was a Sen Calhoun Party and was pretty much restricted to South Carolina.
Proving what blowhards they were, when Pres. Jackson told Calhoun if his state seceded, he'd personally hang him, that was pretty much the end of his calling for secession

Lancero

(3,003 posts)
21. Ever see this picture before?
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 08:07 PM
Feb 2015

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It is, without doubt the most iconic poster used in Barrack Obama's election campaigns.

And according to you, it was designed by a inbred hillbilly.

Or, do you recgonize this man?

[img][/img]

He is James Brown, regarded as the Grandfather of Soul music. By your standards, he also is a inbred hillbilly.

How about this person, a Nobel winning biochemist and geneticist - One of many people whose research helped lead to the creation of cholesteral fighting medications, medications that have saved numerous lives.

[img][/img]

Might just be me, but I don't think his accomplishments are those of a inbred hillbilly.

Ever hear about the Panama Canal? You know, that one semi-important (Actually, very important) ship passage? Yeah, you've labeled the guy who was instrumental in it's completion a inbred hillbilly as well.

Another interesting one - Thoman Heyward Jr. In case you don't recgonize the name, I'll save you the effort - He was one of the signers to the Declaration of Independence. Yeah, that inbred hillbilly helped create this nation.

stage left

(2,962 posts)
34. +1
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 02:09 PM
Feb 2015

And then there's Charles Townes, co-inventor of the laser and pride of Greenville, SC. which is also my hometown.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
24. Don't be *too* hard on S.C. as a whole, mind you.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 08:33 PM
Feb 2015

Sure, the Palmetto State's had it's fair share of bad apples, but John Edwards was from S.C., too. So was Bayard Rustin, the Civil Rights worker also known for his work in promoting LGBT rights late in his life.

flygal

(3,231 posts)
37. .....
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 04:27 PM
Feb 2015

My red state (Montana) is really embarrassing right now too - so I feel for all states doing some crazy shit. Stay and fight!!

stage left

(2,962 posts)
33. Hmm
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 01:57 PM
Feb 2015

It's really not us degenerate inbred hillbillies who are the biggest problem. Mainly we'uns lay out on our ramshackle porches with our lazy ole 'coon dogs, trying to get the rust off great great grand pappy's rifle what he carried in the Great War( and I don't mean World War I neither.) And we don't bother nobody. The ones causing the trouble would be those respectable church going, bible believing, evangelical fundamentalist Christian/Republicans who believe that Jesus was a blonde, blue-eyed Capitalist American Christian who believed exactly as they do and hated exactly the people they hate. Their only criteria for supporting a candidate is does he claim he's born again and is he against gay marriage and abortion.

Furthermore, this mindset is not confined to South Carolina. It is, obviously, nationwide. We have Niki Hayley, yeah, we unfortunately do, but Wisconsin, unfortunately, has Scott Walker.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
17. Do inmates check in on Foursquare?
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 07:20 PM
Feb 2015

"You have just stolen the mayoralty of San Quentin from Charles Manson!".

xocet

(3,871 posts)
20. Interesting...
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 07:50 PM
Feb 2015
Man who nearly beat Carter Strange to death facing new charges

Posted: Sep 27, 2013 10:18 AM CDT
Updated: Oct 07, 2013 10:23 AM CDT

COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - The ringleader of a group of men who nearly beat a Columbia man to death two years ago in Five Points is spending 23 hours a day in a cell and facing new charges after corrections officials swept part of the prison following a Lowcountry blog's publishing of his alleged Facebook activity.

Tyheem Henrey has been charged with creating and assisting in a social network site and unauthorized inmate organization activity because of alleged use of gang symbols, a corrections department spokesperson said Friday.

The 21-year-old was placed in solitary confinement after the sweep.

Henrey is serving a 15-year sentence after police say he and seven others assaulted then 18-year-old Carter Strange at Five Points in June, 2011. Strange nearly died.

...

http://www.wistv.com/story/23548081/man-who-nearly-beat-carter-strange-to-death-facing-new-charges


It looks like he is still serving about a 15 year sentence:





February 12, 2015 | By Dave Maass
Hundreds of South Carolina Inmates Sent to Solitary Confinement Over Facebook

...

So disproportionate are these punishments that South Carolina doesn’t have space in disciplinary detention for all the offenders and “regularly” is forced to put the punishments on hold. In the cases of the three above inmates, SCDC says that none will serve the full punishment since they will be released from prison within the next five to 10 years.

...

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/02/hundreds-south-carolina-inmates-sent-solitary-confinement-over-facebook


Maybe the prison should block cell phone traffic? That seems better than putting inmates in solitary confinement for extended periods.

Response to n2doc (Original post)

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
27. I am amazed that visitors were able to smuggle in a phone and give it to an inmate.
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 08:38 AM
Feb 2015

That is lax visitation supervision. The penalty is obviously excessive but they made it way too easy in the first place. If you can smuggle in a phone, you can smuggle in a gun.

metalbot

(1,058 posts)
28. Well, it could be a visitor
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 09:44 AM
Feb 2015

Or it could be an employee at the prison (who would have much more latitude on entrance). The latter seems more likely.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
30. It could conceivably be done by drone
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 10:37 AM
Feb 2015

Fly it in at night and drop it in a specific place in the yard. Some of the drones have cameras on them so the person who is operating it can see where it is going.

Orrex

(63,213 posts)
29. If only they could make it a crime to post cat pics on FB
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 10:01 AM
Feb 2015

And make posting multiple pics of coffee a capital offense.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
31. I agree it is excessive punishment
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 10:50 AM
Feb 2015

but at the same time inmates who have smuggled phones in any institution are a security risk. Those that have phones could be ordering hits on people, dealing drugs, planning an escape, etc.

Now I think personally they were idiots for updating their Facebook profiles. Really if you are going to do something like use a smuggled cell phone in prison why risk getting caught by using Facebook. It is kind of like the dumb person who goes up and hooks a chain around an ATM and tries to drive off with it.





blackspade

(10,056 posts)
39. This is some crazy shit.
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 05:34 PM
Feb 2015

Who the fuck cares if they update facebook?
Who came up with this policy? Specifically?
Maybe they should be arrested for being a fucking idiot.

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