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spanone

(135,843 posts)
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 04:29 PM Feb 2015

uh oh! Did Brian Williams embed with SEAL Team 6?

(CNN)Embattled NBC News anchor Brian Williams may have some more explaining to do.

On May 3, 2011, just two days after the daring U.S. Navy SEAL Team 6 raid that killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan, Williams said on his NBC News show, "Now, people might be hearing about SEAL Team 6. I happen to have the great honor of flying into Baghdad with them at the start of the war."

With this statement Williams asserted that he was embedded with one of the most covert units in the U.S. military and flew with the SEALs into Iraq in March 2003 as the war there began.

When asked about this claim, a Special Operations Command spokesman Ken McGraw told CNN: "We do not embed journalists with that unit or any other unit that conducts counterterrorism missions. Bottom line -- no."


http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/13/opinion/bergen-brian-williams-seal-team-six/index.html
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uh oh! Did Brian Williams embed with SEAL Team 6? (Original Post) spanone Feb 2015 OP
Toast. rug Feb 2015 #1
agreed Liberal_in_LA Feb 2015 #29
uh-oh. CTyankee Feb 2015 #2
no it's not. why would he do this when things are so verifiable? like, duh, video tape. spanone Feb 2015 #3
There's no way in hell that's true. name not needed Feb 2015 #4
You didn't know? Brian Williams was the one that actually shot Bin Laden! n/t Lurks Often Feb 2015 #5
....and then later launched him into the drink. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2015 #9
He claimed to be in Berlin the night the Wall fell. former9thward Feb 2015 #6
He was on the EAST side that night! GreatCaesarsGhost Feb 2015 #11
Special forces do not work that way. TwilightGardener Feb 2015 #7
What an idiot iandhr Feb 2015 #8
I heard that Williams followed Neil Armstrong's walk on the moon and gave him a wedgie. bulloney Feb 2015 #10
Actually, that's not quite true, TheCowsCameHome Feb 2015 #13
No, but I'm pretty sure he was at the Last Supper KamaAina Feb 2015 #12
By "flew WITH the SEALs into Iraq," he meant... Chiyo-chichi Feb 2015 #14
Shambo pintobean Feb 2015 #15
Hell of a man, that Brian Williams. lpbk2713 Feb 2015 #16
I doubt that happened at all, let alone that he was there. nt Dreamer Tatum Feb 2015 #17
He just said he flew into Baghdad with them. Not that he was imbedded. progressoid Feb 2015 #18
I was thinking the same thing jmowreader Feb 2015 #23
Wait now..would CNN try to make NBC look bad? Nah. elias49 Feb 2015 #27
My prediction: Williams will not be back as anchor WI_DEM Feb 2015 #19
Brian Williams, Skinwalker tecelote Feb 2015 #20
Zelig Gump? rickford66 Feb 2015 #21
His middle name is Mitty... Cooley Hurd Feb 2015 #22
Oh, right. Tommy Flanagan's brother. rickford66 Feb 2015 #24
"Could Williams have simply hitched a ride into Iraq with SEAL Team 6 outside of the formal Cha Feb 2015 #25
No way. Years ago when stationed at Ft Lewis GP6971 Feb 2015 #26
Yep, that's been my experience with Spec Ops. GGJohn Feb 2015 #28
We have I believe, the 4/160, at JBLM GP6971 Feb 2015 #30
I try to see the positive side to stories like this. Contrary1 Feb 2015 #31
Williams had to know people could refute his statements and, if they did, he'd be in deep doo. Yet, merrily Feb 2015 #32
That's what is going through my head with each new story too. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2015 #33
It takes a powerful force or incentive to jeopardize your reputation and $10 million a year, plus merrily Feb 2015 #34
I understand he was also at the front for this moment: Marr Feb 2015 #35
Lol! cwydro Feb 2015 #36

name not needed

(11,660 posts)
4. There's no way in hell that's true.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 04:34 PM
Feb 2015

Seal Team Six is a bit of a misnomer. What is popularly known as ST6 is actually the United States Naval Special Warfare Development Group, which operates alongside the CIA's Special Activities Division under the auspices of the Joint Special Operations Command. What this means in english, is, these are the last guys that will ever bring a reporter on a ride along.

former9thward

(32,017 posts)
6. He claimed to be in Berlin the night the Wall fell.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 04:36 PM
Feb 2015

He wasn't. Came the next day.

Questions Emerge Over Statement Brian Williams Made In Southland


Two days after NBC announced the six-month suspension of Brian Williams, questions have emerged over at least one other statement made by Williams when he was in the Southland.
While speaking at a forum at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in 2008, an audience memberasked Williams what his “wow” interview was or moment in his career.
“What was my wow … I’ve been so fortunate,” he said. “I was at the Brandenburg Gate the night the wall came down.”
What Williams was referring to was the demolition of the Berlin Wall in 1989, but there are now reports that he actually arrived the day after the wall came down.



http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/02/12/questions-emerge-over-statement-brian-williams-made-in-socal/

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
10. I heard that Williams followed Neil Armstrong's walk on the moon and gave him a wedgie.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 05:14 PM
Feb 2015

I heard that's what gave Neil his giant LEAP for mankind.

That's what I heard.

Chiyo-chichi

(3,581 posts)
14. By "flew WITH the SEALs into Iraq," he meant...
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 05:20 PM
Feb 2015

he was on a plane that was an hour behind them.

Just like the helicopter "ahead" of him that was shot was an hour ahead.

progressoid

(49,991 posts)
18. He just said he flew into Baghdad with them. Not that he was imbedded.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 05:35 PM
Feb 2015

Not trying to defend him, but maybe CNN (and others) are reading more into this than there is.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
23. I was thinking the same thing
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 07:02 PM
Feb 2015

Air Force loadmasters tend to load to capacity..."we have an extra 1500 pounds on this one, where's that news crew?"

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
27. Wait now..would CNN try to make NBC look bad? Nah.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 10:05 PM
Feb 2015

They wouldn't do this a-purpose.
What's the 'smiley' for 'ratings'?

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
19. My prediction: Williams will not be back as anchor
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 05:40 PM
Feb 2015

as a matter of fact he will no doubt resign from NBC News. I think Lester Holt would be a good replacement on a permanent basis.

Cha

(297,275 posts)
25. "Could Williams have simply hitched a ride into Iraq with SEAL Team 6 outside of the formal
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 09:04 PM
Feb 2015
embedding process?"

"This seems quite unlikely. A SEAL officer told CNN, "That early in the conflict, there were only missions taking place, not bouncing between outstations."

snip//

William has made further claims about his purportedly tight relationship with the men of SEAL Team 6, saying on the "Late Show With David Letterman" in January 2013, "About six weeks after the Bin Laden raid, I got a white envelope and in it was a thank-you note, unsigned. And in it was a piece of the fuselage of the blown-up Black Hawk in that courtyard. Sent to me by one of my friends."


The SEAL officer says this seems unlikely given that "there's no connection between the guys that went in early ('03) and the guys at A-bad," an abbreviation for the city of Abbottabad, Pakistan, where the bin Laden raid was carried out."

mahalo spanone~

GP6971

(31,163 posts)
26. No way. Years ago when stationed at Ft Lewis
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 09:55 PM
Feb 2015

My travels took me past the 1st SFG area.....you didn't slow down to gawk at the compound etc. then a couple years later at Ft Bragg, went past the Delta area. Again, no slowing down to look.

Special Ops are so secretive no way he traveled with them. Identities of the Special Ops troops are highly protected.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
28. Yep, that's been my experience with Spec Ops.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 10:15 PM
Feb 2015

You don't ask questions, you don't inquire about them, you just avert your eyes and keep on going.
I did get the pleasure of meeting some of the operators from the 160th SOAR, these are some bad ass dudes with some bad ass birds.

GP6971

(31,163 posts)
30. We have I believe, the 4/160, at JBLM
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 10:29 PM
Feb 2015

I've meet a couple of their pilots during some exercises. Nice, personal people, but I learned long ago not to ask any questions. One can't accuse these guys of thinking within the box.......for them there is no box.

Contrary1

(12,629 posts)
31. I try to see the positive side to stories like this.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 11:22 PM
Feb 2015

At least Williams didn't pull a Geraldo and broadcast details about future U.S. troop movements.

The downside for him is that he won't be getting job offers from Fox.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
32. Williams had to know people could refute his statements and, if they did, he'd be in deep doo. Yet,
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 11:59 PM
Feb 2015

kept lying about high profile events. That is not bragging. It's pathology.

He is now a total laughingstock. NBC might be cautioning him to stop telling personal stories of any kind and he might agree. But he might not be able to keep that promise, even if he really wants to. And at $10 million a year plus perks, he would probably really want to.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
33. That's what is going through my head with each new story too.
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 12:04 AM
Feb 2015

This is not simple embellishment. This is knowingly making things up directly in the faces of the people who can refute you.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
34. It takes a powerful force or incentive to jeopardize your reputation and $10 million a year, plus
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 12:10 AM
Feb 2015

perks and a pretty good amount of power.

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