Irate Christian parent: ‘I am getting sick and tired of dinosaurs being forced on our children’

[babylonsister]

Irate Christian parent: ‘I am getting sick and tired of dinosaurs being forced on our children’
Scott Kaufman
13 Feb 2015 at 09:05 ET



A user on the parenting forum Mumsnet has been banned for hijacking conversations with complaints about “the dinosaur hoax” and its effects on children, KTRK reports.

Writing under the name “CADministry” — “CAD” being a reference to a Facebook advocacy group to which the writer belongs called “Christians Against Dinosaurs” — the mother began by complaining that “I am getting sick and tired of dinosaurs being forced on our children.”

“Something needs to be done,” she continued. “The science behind them is pretty flimsy, and I for one do not want my children being taught lies. Did you know that nobody had even heard of dinosaurs before the 1800s, when they were invented by curio-hungry Victorians?”


more/video at link~

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/irate-christian-parent-i-am-getting-sick-and-tired-of-dinosaurs-being-forced-on-our-children/

[FSogol]

1. Is this epic (hilarious) trolling or the extreme far reaches of religious-based ignorance?

[el_bryanto]

3. It could go either way. nt

[PNW_Dem]

59. Is it like having homosexuals forced down your throat?

Ha ha.

[markpkessinger]

95. Well, I've had a few of those forced down my throat . .

. . . but then, I was a willing . .. . oh never mind!

[RKP5637]

105. LOL!

[juajen]

113. OMG. not Fifty Shades of DU?

Shouldn't this be in the lunge? Ha!

[juajen]

114. OK, you can start hearting me now, but. please, no more

than I can stand.

[Adrahil]

6. Poe's law in action.

Can't tell the real religious crazies from parodies of them.

[trotsky]

9. Was just thinking the same thing!

LOL

[Adrahil]

14. I THINK it's parody, but not 100% sure! n/t

[erronis]

62. And the sad thing is that

The "irate religious" person doesn't know if they are a parody or just whacko.

Of course this is true of the rest of us, too.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

65. now I'm sad too.....

Cuz she, at least, has humor goin' for her.


:mope:

[yellowcanine]

82. Tis whacko parody is wha i tis, for sure.

[RKP5637]

107. Yep, you used to be able to tell the difference, but anymore there are so

many religious crazies even this OP sounds possible.

[Sheldon Cooper]

11. Of course it's trolling, and it's freaking hilarious!

Although you do wonder at times, don't you? Some of those folks have lost their damned minds.

[Adrahil]

13. Looking at the Facebook page...

The CAD facebook page is clearly trolling... at least I THINK so....

[Roland99]

34. The user CADMinistry posted on a Metal Music board >>>>

Here's a Google cache page. Maybe this person is serious? Or just REALLY bored and doing some major trolling.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:a8iO-qLnCGQJ:https://ek.mb.ts.rh.sg.nm.em.ls.al.jk.cl.ci.sv.ng.lt.lm.mf.cm/members/cadministry.html+&cd=15&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us


Better link:
http://metalforum.com/general-chat/7335-why-do-metal-music-fans-believe-dinosaurs.html


A Youtube Video:

&feature=youtu.be

[Renew Deal]

2. What should be done is her children should be put into child protective services

And she should be put into a padded room.

[FSogol]

7. Padded rooms aren't real. Psychiatrists make them out of pads!

BTW, when dinosaur bones were first found, they were used as evidence that the Biblical version of creation was correct. See: "The Map That Changed the World: William Smith & the Birth of Modern Geology" by Simon Winchester

[Renew Deal]

8. I know

I didn't mean it literally.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

55. No - her children should be taken to the Museum of Natural History in Washington DC

..a free, taxpayer funded, exhibitor of many Dinosaur specimens.

Alternatively, they could be taken to the Field Museum in Chicago to go see Sue.

Mom can relax and unwind with some Barney videos.

[niyad]

70. or dinosaur national monument in colorado, or the dinosaur resource center, or. . . .

[jmowreader]

87. Or Ken Ham's Dinosaur Museum in Kentucky...

[Algernon Moncrieff]

124. Or a Jurrasic Park Marathon!

With previews of the new film, of course.

[PoliticAverse]

4. That's it, no more school trips to Jurassic Park. n/t

[RKP5637]

108. LOL!!!

[City Lights]

5. LOL!

That is hilarious!

[pipi_k]

10. Dinosaurs being forced on our children!!???

Damn Michelle Obama and her "healthy school lunches"!!!!

[Capt. Obvious]

12. Let's compromise

[guillaumeb]

32. can I use this as proof that dinosaurs and man coexisted?

But the clawed feet and pointy tail make me a bit uneasy. A little too Satanic.

[Thav]

46. No no, an apt anaolgy

See, Jesus tamed and dominated the dinosaur - just like he did Satan!

But whatever, that's an awesome pic.

[Jamastiene]

100. Satan has hooves, not claws.

At least that is what they always told me. I was also taught that I was the literal spawn of Satan because I was born out of wedlock. The father/daughter reunion when I die is going to be epic. Most of the people who have spent their lives condemning me to Hell are most likely going there too. Daddy's not gonna be happy with them.

[guillaumeb]

102. will your relationship with Satan help

to get a cooler spot in Hell? Or a softer rock to sit on? You might also be placed farther from people like Dick Cheney and George Bush. Could be a net gain for you, O Wisest and best of Satan's daughters.
(I do not know you but I am hedging my bets. It cannot hurt to get in good with the in crowd even in Hell)

[Jamastiene]

104. ROFL!

I sure hope so. Remind me we met on DU and you made me laugh. You'll share in whatever rewards await us.

[JackInGreen]

130. It can get you keys to the employee entance

And I can't WAIT until I get a shift at Georgey.

[KansDem]

49. Agreed...

[niyad]

73. or this diorama from hambone's creation museum in kentucky

(the first time I saw this pic, the dinosaur was wearing a small saddle, and there was a guy in the pic as well, dressed sort of edwardian--freaking hysterical)

[dembotoz]

15. american sniper 2 the prequel--extinct because he shot them all

[Rex]

16. Oh no doubt! I mean we all know Museums are a holding house of lies!

SO WHEN DO WE GET TO BURN DOWN THE LIBRARIES, YOU KNOW IN ORDER TO SAVE OUR CHILDREN!?


We must be swift and brutal in the name of our Ever Loving Jesus!

[Thav]

47. I, for one,

have a room full of soft cushions, in case I need to go all Spanish Inquisition on anyone.

[Archae]

17. If this woman is being serious...

And this is not trolling or satire, it's just another example of a person hit in the head with a big family bible, once too often.

[brooklynite]

18. Here's the quote in question...

http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/mumsnet_classics/a2301982-Im-getting-sick-and-tired-of-dinosaurs-being-forced-on-our-children

I'm really concerned about dinosaurs, and I think something needs to be done. The science behind them is pretty flimsy, and I for one do not want my children being taught lies. Did you know that nobody had even heard of dinosaurs before the 1800s, when they were invented by curio-hungry Victorians?

Charles Darwin's later theory of evolution entirely disproved dinosaurs, yet the dinosaur lie was twisted and adapted to try to make it fit. Any proper look at the facts will reveal that dinosaurs simply never existed.

Aside from the educational aspect, dinosaurs are a very bad example for children. At my children's school, several children were left in tears after one of their classmates (who had evidently been exposed to dinosaurs), became bestially-minded and ran around the classroom roaring and pretending to be a dinosaur. Then he bit three children on the face. One poor girl has been left with a severely dented nose and the whole class was left traumatised by this horrible display.

Nothing about dinosaurs is suitable for children, from their total lack of family values through to their non-existence from any serious scientific point of view.

[Laxman]

25. I Have To Give Some Serious Props.....

to CADMinistry. That post is a work of art!

Recently my sister foolishly gave my two youngest some dinosaur toys for Christmas. After telling her to get out of my house I burnt the dinosaurs. My children were delighted because they know dinosaurs are evil. I am fortunate because my family has been very supportive and has disowned my children's former aunt.

I love the comments. Only a couple of people picked up that this wasn't serious and was a form of performance art. What makes this brilliant is that there is the outside chance that this is something a crazed fundamentalist might really say. This must be Bob Boudalang's sister.

[vlyons]

26. actually kids love dinosaurs

every natural museum that I've ever visited that had mounted dinosaur fossils was always surrounded by happy awestruck kids (and adults too). Sorry lady, but T-Rex was a theropod, and therefore just a big chicken.

[packman]

33. God. this is priceless comedy

"Christians Against Dinosaurs"? Not hate, not evil, not Satan-but DINO's. Then blaming those uptight Victorians for "inventing" them. Then she warps into a child who clearly didn't get his anti-dino vaccine and became bestially-minded, running and roaring around a classroom biting and denting noses. Then she attacked the dino's lack of family values and finally capping the whole thing off by questioning "any serious scientific point of view".

Obviously she needs to sit down and watch some reruns of the Flintstones.

She makes a further comment on the site page:

I know we live in a country that embraces dinosaurism and holds it close to our hearts, but if we don't open our hearts to other creatures, mythical or otherwise, then, frankly, our future looks bleak.

Open Your hearts, heathens . Open those hearts, brother.

Best laugh of the day so far - it HAS TO BE written for effect and comedy. Has to be.

[Laxman]

39. It Absolutely Is...

for comedic effect. I can't believe that there are people here on DU who think it's serious. Then again. Orson Welles did fool an awful lot of people with War of the Worlds. But that is the essence of great parody. Just close enough that it might be true but wacky enough that it lampoons the target you are imitating. When will this dinosaurism craze ever end?

[Fumesucker]

45. Actually the War of the Worlds panic turns out to have been a myth...

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2014/04/war-worlds-panic-never-really-happened/

So, how did the “The radio broadcast of War of the Worlds created mass hysteria” myth get perpetuated? In short, the media. Newspaper headlines across the country gave the impression that panic gripped the nation: “Radio Fake Scares Nation,” read the Chicago Herald and Examiner; “Fake Radio War Stirs Terror Through US,” was reported in the New York Daily News (accompanied with a picture of a frightened man and a woman with an arm sling whose caption read “war” victim.); “Terror by Radio,” could be found in a New York Times editorial.

The newspaper industry had quite a bone to pick with the new medium of radio. As W. Joseph Campbell of American University wrote in the BBC News magazine in 2011 (for the 73rd anniversary of the broadcast), “…the so-called ‘panic broadcast’ brought newspapers an exceptional opportunity to censure radio, a still-new medium that was becoming a serious competitor in providing news and advertising.”

That same New York Times editorial with the inflammatory headline had this to say about its new competitor, “Radio is new but it has adult responsibilities. It has not mastered itself or the material it uses.”

Additionally, the newspapers also wanted to sell papers and what better way to do that than using words like “terror” or “panic” or “war.” Using anecdotal and scattered stories, they made it seem like many citizens were ready to bear arms against the alien invaders, but in truth those stories were either very few and far between or in some cases completely made up. According to law enforcement and hospital documentation from the night in question, there were no reports of people taking to the streets with guns, no one taken to the hospital on the account of the radio broadcast, and no known person committing suicide as a result of the broadcast.

[niyad]

74. the fundie nutjobs are so crazy, it is hard to tell what is real and what is satire. I mean,

these are people who believe the earth is 6,000 years old, for pity's sake.

[Laxman]

77. That's Why It's So Much Fun....

when somebody sticks it to them in their own language! It's like "do you guys understand just HOW stupid you sound?" The 6,000 year old Earth is the least of it.

[calimary]

86. "Dinosaurism"??? WTF???

WTFF. What The Fucking Fuck?!?!?!?

[salin]

131. that last line is the tell. definitely satire/trolling.

the lack of family values of dinosaurs - not that believing in them is lacking family values - but the assertion that dinosaurs had values period ... let alone values that conflict with family values.

Hilarious.

Thank you for posting the quote.

[Jerry442]

19. A new logical principle.

If no one had ever heard of {thing} before {some point in the past}, then {thing} is spurious.

The possibilities are endless.

[jtuck004]

20. "Alright, no more Flintstones in study hall" n/t

[randome]

21. It happens more often than you think.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Aspire to inspire.[/center][/font][hr]

[Scruffy Rumbler]

57. He just wants to play fetch! nt

[vlyons]

22. that no one heard of dinosaurs before 1800 is only partially true

People have been finding dinosaur and mastodon fossils as long as there have been people living where there were fossils. They literally fell out of the hills and mountains of greece. The ancient Greeks thought they were the bones of monsters. For example the big hole where the trunk of a mastodon was, was thought to be a one-eyed Cyclops. Such stupidity on the part of this woman is really sad. Before the 1800s, the sun was thought to be a big lump of coal, and long before that a god of one sort or another.

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/07/04/science/greek-myths-not-necessarily-mythical.html

[yuiyoshida]

85. I have always felt that the Myths about DRAGONS

came from someone finding giant bones, and only imagining some creature large and terrible size. Perhaps the breathing of fire came from unexpected out breaks of fires in the forests caused in reality by lightning strikes.



dragons are universal and appear in many cultures.. perhaps many people in the past have found bones, and thought them to be from Dragons.

[stopwastingmymoney]

121. I think that's probably true, makes sense. nt

[Spitfire of ATJ]

126. I'm convinced that's where the myth of an underworld inhabited by giant monsters came from....

Volcanoes made that underworld all about fire and brimstone.

[Marrah_G]

23. Reminds me of the crazy christian wife swap lady

[snooper2]

24. Well, people on DU have been banned for saying crazy shit too, no biggie LOL

Anyone is allowed online these days



Oh shit, chemtrail outside my window falling on the house!!!!!

[damnedifIknow]

27. Is there really people like this?

Graduating from the University Of Completely Stupid is not something to be proud of.

[Aldo Leopold]

28. Christians Against Dinosaurs

The Romans would have loved that spectacle, I'm sure!

[Orsino]

29. Yes. Glorifying long-dead beings whose existence is questionable has got to stop. n/t

[NutmegYankee]

36. Ouch.

I see what you did there.

[Arugula Latte]

81. ...

[LadyHawkAZ]

90. /thread

[bread_and_roses]

129. ROFL (n/t)

[guillaumeb]

30. why does she hate Barney?

Barney is real. My children loved Barney. They watched him all the time. He talked about caring, and sharing, and the children playing with him were a rainbow of colors.

Oh, sorry. I just realized that the CADministry mom was talking about actual fossils. You know, the type that exist all over the world. Is the CAD mom aware that there is a Creation Museum in Kentucky that has exhibits showing dinosaurs and hominids co-existing? Like a Christian version of the Flintstones. Here is a link to the site: http://creationmuseum.org/

Yes, we know that early man did not coexist with dinosaurs, but for the Young Earth Theory to be plausible Earth's timeline must be compressed a tiny bit.

What is scary is that CAD mom is not alone. There are many CAD moms and CAD dads out there. Maybe they are reading "Science for Dummies" or the equivalent.

[StarzGuy]

115. Earth History Must Be...

...compressed a "tiny" bit? Really? I guess 4.6 billion years is a tiny bit! LOL

[guillaumeb]

133. reality vs creation myth

would you rather believe in science or a Bronze Age creation myth?

[Ace Rothstein]

31. That reads like an Onion article.

[Lurks Often]

35. Then home school your brat and stop whining n/t

[TNNurse]

37. I looked at the FB page

And cannot tell. Did not want to join to find out more.

Someone should "borrow" a really big dinosaur bone from a museum and beat some sense into these people with it.

[world wide wally]

38. OK, Kids. No more talk about dinosaurs. From now on, we call them dragons!

It's in the Bible.

[blackspade]

40. The stupid hurts....

[WDIM]

41. The devil put dinosaurs here.

These are the people that think the devil put dinosaur bones here to confuse christian and make them question their faith.

[muntrv]

42. She's also tired of the Earth revolving around the Sun being forced on her kids.

[ProfessorGAC]

43. This Has GOT To Be A Put On

It's so over the top, that someone is clowning the position by being ridiculous.

[Neurotica]

72. Sadly, if you remember the Kirk Cameron-Ray Comfort discussion of bananas to disprove evolution

you just never know!

[ProfessorGAC]

89. Yeah, But Even That Wasn't This Extreme

You could be right though

[gregcrawford]

44. Christ on a crutch!

This woman takes blithering idiocy to previously unplumbed depths. The truly terrifying part is that there are SO many just like her. Sad to say, my stepson married one. And not only are they allowed to breed indiscriminately, they're allowed to vote! We're all DOOMED!

[kairos12]

48. I thought fundies were all about the

Velocirapture.

[KansDem]

50. "Curio-hungry Victorians?”

[smirkymonkey]

51. I find it hard to believe people like this really exist.

"CAD"?? Seriously? WTF? This is something I would expect to read in The Onion, I can't believe there are people like this in real life.

[Gothmog]

52. These CAD people scare me

Their ignorance is truly sad

[Initech]

53. So I take it they won't be going to see Jurassic World then.

[immoderate]

54. Satire.

--imm

[olddots]

56. Alot of Heavy Metal fans thought Spinal Tap was a real band .

there are people who think Kim & Kayne are a comedy duo .

[drm604]

58. Looking on FaceBook

I see three groups named "Christians Against Dinosaurs", three groups named "Dinosaurs Against Christians", and one called "Dinosaurs Against Christians who are Against Dinosaurs".

[harun]

120. This had me rolling. lol

[Stallion]

60. If God Made Dinosauers to Roam the Earth-Then Why Are They Buried in Ground???

answer that one-ya bunch of smarty pants

[Kelselsius]

61. Let's not forget the hypocrisy

This woman clearly would have no problem with children being forced to learn that the earth is about 6000 years old, climate change is a hoax and this life doesn't matter because the rapture will happen any day now.

[sakabatou]

63. I have to call poe on this.

[adieu]

64. Whats really disgusting that is being forced on children

is Christianity, more so than any other religion. I'm not a fan of any religion, but Christianity in particular, is one pernicious, disgusting, terrible, insulting and worthless piece of religion, among all religions to consider.

[StarzGuy]

116. I Agree absolutely!

Religion is always the problem and never a solution, IMHO. This woman must have been home schooled by her uber-religously insane parents to get this nutty. Although, I must admit she appears to have a nice set of Ta-tas!

[7962]

118. Well, you made me go look. Yep!

[frylock]

66. this group is trolling at an elite level..

bravo!

[niyad]

67. this is from the Onion, yes???? PLEASE tell me this is from the Onion!!!!!

[ladjf]

68. The history of dinosaurs is clearly and accurately written in

the Earth's rocks. There is no doubt whatsoever of their existence and to a large degree where and how the lived.

CADministry is pitifully uninformed about the science of paleontology. She is making a fool out of herself.

[niyad]

69. do you think she got dragons and dinosaurs confused?

[spanone]

71. 'I for one do not want my children being taught lies' ...how ironic.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

75. Not sure if epic troll or real.

If epic troll, then hat's off!

If real, then I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

[carolinayellowdog]

76. true story from a Virginia public library

Among the most bizarre WTF gob-smacking moments of my career as a public librarian was the disruption of a Summer Reading Program session back in the 1990s. The State Library had chosen dinosaurs as the theme that summer, and it was a winner with most of the kids. But after the first session, the coordinator of children's programs in my branch came to me in utter consternation over a disruption that occurred early on in the program.

"THAT'S EVOLUTION! AND I'M AGAINST IT!!" said the little girl before storming out of the library never to return to the Summer Reading Program.

[trusty elf]

78. ........

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[ErikJ]

79. Actual proof of dinosaur domestication

[yellowcanine]

80. Whoa - Man on Dinosaur - Does Rick Santorum know about this??????????

[jmowreader]

88. He's only worried about men on dogs

[COLGATE4]

132. Proof positive of the 'slippery slope' resulting

from permitting same-sex marriage. Won't somebody think of the kids??????

[Dont call me Shirley]

106. LOL..

[Arugula Latte]

83. Yes! Everyone knows scientists are Tyrannonts!

[tridim]

84. It's because they were on acid...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/13/did-dinosaurs-drop-prehistoric-acid.html

[mattmccusker]

91. Joined the Facebook Group (Christians Against Dinosaurs) ((lol)) and was kicked out for posting once

I tried to have a nice discussion and posted on article on the matter and was kicked out...http://viraleyze.com/religious-mom-tries-ban-dinosaur-education-gets-denied-o-saur/

That group is INSANE!

[Aristus]

92. Dinosaurs didn't exists before the Victorian Era.

In exactly the same way that Pharoah Tutankhamen didn't exist before 1922!

I think she's on to something there...

[guillaumeb]

94. I agree if you remove the word "to" from the sentence.

Everyone knows that dinosaurs existed and in fact co-existed with man. I cite as proof
"The Flintstones" movie, as well as the Barney series.

[KamaAina]

93. I agree.

[HereSince1628]

96. Actually the ancient greeks found dinosaurs in their stone quarries

Obviously they didn't call them dinosaurs, that term was invented much much later.

But people have been aware of dinosaur bones from ancient times ...

One of the curious things I learned from a book titled "The Death of Adam" was that even as fossils of extinct giants emerged from diggings of the sewers in Paris, the clergy rallied around the rationalization that these weren't extinct animals, because God doesn't create junk that gets thrown away, so those animals -MUST- be out in the environment somewhere.

This, and early fossil finds of mastodon skeletons in the US led to fables about "the meat eating elephant" that was out in the American west.

[taught_me_patience]

97. Dinosaurs=bad... dinojuice=great

fire up the Suburban baby!!!

[LongTomH]

98. Mark Twain wondered..........

[Jamastiene]

99. Part of me wants to LOL about this, because

I've never met a kid that didn't love dinosaurs. There is no forcing dinosaurs on kids. They seem to love them for the most part.

The other part of me realizes that her kids will never be allowed to enjoy dinosaurs or anything else scientific. Poor kids. They will be denied years of innocent fun and enjoyment of dinosaurs because the parent is a fucking asshole.

I hope her kids grow up to be archeologists or some other profession she would never understand and leave her sitting on her couch griping and complaining to the curtains. Life is too short to sit around listening to idiots like that. I hope her kids can free themselves one day.

[wendylaroux]

101. for the love of pete,don't force dinosaurs on the kids!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rex]

103. Okay, after further thought on this - NO, I don't believe this is real.

I'm calling very well written satire on this one.

[malaise]

109. I can see why

The bullshit she is spewing down her kids' throats is crushed by the scientific weight of said dinosaurs.

She's one more ignorant and proud fool.

[Historic NY]

110. Perhaps having her win free tickets to

http://www.amnh.org/ might help because tree stumps are smarter.

[Liberal_in_LA]

111. is this an Onion story?

[FiveGoodMen]

112. Shouldn't she take up her argument with Ken Ham?

[StarzGuy]

117. Please Run for President...

...with Sarah Palin as VP. Please run, please...

[whereisjustice]

119. I've seen that look before...

[undeterred]

122. Well. Yaba Dabba Doo

[Simeon Salus]

123. I suppose he and his fellows are willing to give up fossil fuels...

Those pesky dinosaurs shouldn't infect the gas tanks or coal fired power plants normally used by these CADs.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

125. ...

[BlueCaliDem]

127. OMG. There really isn't a cure for teh STUPID faux-Christian. eom

[Fearless]

128. Teh stooped, it burnz!!1!