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We hear about PTSD here in the U.S. and we also see the high suicide rate of our returning soldiers. I never hear about soldiers from other countries facing the same problems. Are they?
Trillo
(9,154 posts)Are there any other countries who have spread their military as far and wide across the globe as the U.S. has done?
msongs
(67,406 posts)Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)Human beings don't respond well to extreme stress over a long period of time.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)She went through the Battle of the Bulge and was never right after that.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Last edited Fri Feb 13, 2015, 01:55 AM - Edit history (1)
They went to assist the government in responding to an explosion of PTSD symptoms in their Afghantsi--Soviet veterans of their war in Afghanistan.
Some VN vet friends and I met one of the Afghantsi when he visited the Wall in D.C. He left his blue Special Forces beret at the Wall, together with a tribute to fallen comrades--a glass of vodka, a piece of bread, and a cigarette.
We had him join us for dinner at a friends's home and learned about his personal struggles, which were very familiar to us from our own experience after serving in Vietnam.
QuebecYank
(147 posts)PTSD has affected soldiers from any country that served in any war. Even if they didn't experience battle.
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)shows the tragic tales of WWI vets and their "shell shock."
PTSD knows how to share.
Edit because: keyboard argle bargle
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)So yes PTSD is global in nature.
I wonder if anyone has done any serious research into why some suffer from PTSD and others who saw the same action do not.
polly7
(20,582 posts)(Just a quick google search for a few links):
Invisible Wounds: Crisis in the military - Global News
http://globalnews.ca/invisible-wounds/1254729/invisible-wounds-mental-health-resources-for-canadian-soliders
Post-traumatic stress disorder doubles among Canadian Forces
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/one-in-six-military-members-have-mental-health-problems-statscan-says/article19990160/
Suicide claims more soldiers than those killed by Afghan combat
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2014/09/16/suicide_claims_more_soldiers_than_those_killed_by_afghan_combat.html
14 per cent of Canadian Forces in Afghanistan had mental health problems: study
http://www.ctvnews.ca/health/health-headlines/14-per-cent-of-canadian-forces-in-afghanistan-had-mental-health-problems-study-1.1350421
melm00se
(4,993 posts)(other than the name).
Check this WWII John Huston documentary:
Wiki article
Film online:
rgbecker
(4,831 posts)I wonder if the Iraqis who fought the American invaders so hard had/have as many cases.
polly7
(20,582 posts)but I've read there are very, very few (four? if I remember correctly) psychologists/psychiatrists in Afghanistan to treat a whole population affected by PTSD, especially the children. I've read the numbers are astronomical. How could they not be? And in Iraq as well, seeing your family blown up, having fathers, brothers, uncles, neighbours just disappear, not knowing if you'll ever see them again - I can imagine that PTSD and the depression, anxiety and suicides that go along with it would be terrible. I think the numbers would be much, much higher.
I was wrong:
And were right to be concerned about the still-inadequate care U.S. veterans get when they come home soldiers can be simultaneously victim and war criminal. (Iraq Veterans Against the War have mobilized their Operation Recovery campaign to defend soldiers right to heal before being redeployed a campaign that also denies the Pentagon access to these young instruments of battle for illegal wars.) But we shouldnt forget that those 2/3 of Afghans something like 20 million people face PTSD or other mental disorders with only FORTY-TWO psychiatrists and psychologists in the entire country
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101622574
Community members, mental health professionals, and journalists interviewed for this report described how the constant presence of US drones overhead leads to substantial levels of fear and stress in the civilian communities below.[475] One man described the reaction to the sound of the drones as a wave of terror coming over the community. Children, grown-up people, women, they are terrified. . . . They scream in terror.[476] Interviewees described the experience of living under constant surveillance as harrowing. In the words of one interviewee: God knows whether theyll strike us again or not. But theyre always surveying us, theyre always over us, and you never know when theyre going to strike and attack.[477] Another interviewee who lost both his legs in a drone attack said that [e]veryone is scared all the time. When were sitting together to have a meeting, were scared there might be a strike. When you can hear the drone circling in the sky, you think it might strike you. Were always scared. We always have this fear in our head.[478]
A Pakistani psychiatrist, who has treated patients presenting symptoms he attributed to experience with or fear of drones, explained that pervasive worry about future trauma is emblematic of anticipatory anxiety,[479] common in conflict zones.[480] He explained that the Waziris he has treated who suffer from anticipatory anxiety are constantly worrying, when is the next drone attack going to happen? When they hear drone sounds, they run around looking for shelter.[481] Another mental health professional who works with drone victims concluded that his patients stress symptoms are largely attributable to their belief that [t]hey could be attacked at any time.[482]
http://www.livingunderdrones.org/report/
The scars inside: An Iraqi refugee opens up about PTSD
By Shuka Kalantari
http://kalw.org/post/scars-inside-iraqi-refugee-opens-about-ptsd
A study by the Iraqi Society of Psychiatrists in collaboration with the World Health Organization found that 70 percent of children (sample 10,000) in the Sha'ab section of North Baghdad are suffering from trauma-related symptoms. Even if this study is not completely replicated in the whole of Iraq, it clearly shows that huge numbers of children are growing up with mental problems.Many of these children have seen close family members killed; they have walked in streets where they have seen dead and mutilated bodies just lying around. If left untreated, what impact will these mental problems have on the future of Iraq?
First, of course, the suffering, the stress, and the depression that afflicts these children must be alleviated. All of Iraqi society must see that providing expert medical intervention to help these children cope is a moral imperative. The effects of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder are bad enough for professional soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan. It is hard to imagine the effects on a child growing up amongst such carnage. In macho Iraqi society, such children, particularly the boys, tend to suffer in silence for fear of being labelled wimps. In any case, expertise to treat such cases is woefully inadequate in Iraq.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/adnan-aldaini/the-plight-of-iraqi-child_b_1184324.html
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)such actions happen. Google is a great thing, it is amazing to me how rarely American look up how other countries deal with things we also deal with. DU acts as if only the US has ever had measles outbreaks, for example.