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global1

(25,249 posts)
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 12:26 AM Feb 2015

Are Soldiers From Other Countries Suffering From Posttraumatic Stress Disorder?......

We hear about PTSD here in the U.S. and we also see the high suicide rate of our returning soldiers. I never hear about soldiers from other countries facing the same problems. Are they?

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Are Soldiers From Other Countries Suffering From Posttraumatic Stress Disorder?...... (Original Post) global1 Feb 2015 OP
Of course. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2015 #1
Can't answer your question, but a related thought occurred: Trillo Feb 2015 #2
shell shock nt msongs Feb 2015 #3
Battle Fatigue... Operational Exhaustion... Electric Monk Feb 2015 #5
Unless other countries are using andriod soldiers, then, of course. FLPanhandle Feb 2015 #4
Knew a lady that was an interpreter in WW II. Downwinder Feb 2015 #6
I remember the U.S. sending PTSD specialists to the USSR pinboy3niner Feb 2015 #7
Several Canadian soldiers commit suicide each week. QuebecYank Feb 2015 #8
The BBC series "The Village" Tsiyu Feb 2015 #9
I have a book written by a Falkland Islands veteran who suffered PTSD Lurks Often Feb 2015 #10
Yes, of course. polly7 Feb 2015 #11
PTSD is nothing new melm00se Feb 2015 #12
Interesting that all the links provided by this post's responders are about the invading armies. rgbecker Feb 2015 #13
I'm sure Iraq is the same ... polly7 Feb 2015 #14
Not only soldiers but civilian populations suffer from PSD related to military actions, anywhere Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #15

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
2. Can't answer your question, but a related thought occurred:
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 12:33 AM
Feb 2015

Are there any other countries who have spread their military as far and wide across the globe as the U.S. has done?

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
4. Unless other countries are using andriod soldiers, then, of course.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 12:45 AM
Feb 2015

Human beings don't respond well to extreme stress over a long period of time.

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)
6. Knew a lady that was an interpreter in WW II.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 01:18 AM
Feb 2015

She went through the Battle of the Bulge and was never right after that.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
7. I remember the U.S. sending PTSD specialists to the USSR
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 01:24 AM
Feb 2015

Last edited Fri Feb 13, 2015, 01:55 AM - Edit history (1)

They went to assist the government in responding to an explosion of PTSD symptoms in their Afghantsi--Soviet veterans of their war in Afghanistan.

Some VN vet friends and I met one of the Afghantsi when he visited the Wall in D.C. He left his blue Special Forces beret at the Wall, together with a tribute to fallen comrades--a glass of vodka, a piece of bread, and a cigarette.

We had him join us for dinner at a friends's home and learned about his personal struggles, which were very familiar to us from our own experience after serving in Vietnam.

QuebecYank

(147 posts)
8. Several Canadian soldiers commit suicide each week.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 01:39 AM
Feb 2015

PTSD has affected soldiers from any country that served in any war. Even if they didn't experience battle.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
9. The BBC series "The Village"
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 06:07 AM
Feb 2015

shows the tragic tales of WWI vets and their "shell shock."

PTSD knows how to share.


Edit because: keyboard argle bargle


 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
10. I have a book written by a Falkland Islands veteran who suffered PTSD
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 08:57 AM
Feb 2015

So yes PTSD is global in nature.

I wonder if anyone has done any serious research into why some suffer from PTSD and others who saw the same action do not.

rgbecker

(4,831 posts)
13. Interesting that all the links provided by this post's responders are about the invading armies.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 09:35 AM
Feb 2015

I wonder if the Iraqis who fought the American invaders so hard had/have as many cases.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
14. I'm sure Iraq is the same ...
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 09:52 AM
Feb 2015

but I've read there are very, very few (four? if I remember correctly) psychologists/psychiatrists in Afghanistan to treat a whole population affected by PTSD, especially the children. I've read the numbers are astronomical. How could they not be? And in Iraq as well, seeing your family blown up, having fathers, brothers, uncles, neighbours just disappear, not knowing if you'll ever see them again - I can imagine that PTSD and the depression, anxiety and suicides that go along with it would be terrible. I think the numbers would be much, much higher.

I was wrong:

And we’re right to be concerned about the still-inadequate care U.S. veterans get when they come home – soldiers can be simultaneously victim and war criminal. (Iraq Veterans Against the War have mobilized their Operation Recovery campaign to defend soldiers’ right to heal before being redeployed – a campaign that also denies the Pentagon access to these young instruments of battle for illegal wars.) But we shouldn’t forget that those 2/3 of Afghans – something like 20 million people – face PTSD or other mental disorders with only FORTY-TWO psychiatrists and psychologists in the entire country

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101622574

One of the few accounts of living under drones ever published in the US came from a former New York Times journalist who was kidnapped by the Taliban for months in FATA.[472] In his account, David Rohde described both the fear the drones inspired among his captors, as well as among ordinary civilians: “The drones were terrifying. From the ground, it is impossible to determine who or what they are tracking as they circle overhead. The buzz of a distant propeller is a constant reminder of imminent death.”[473] Describing the experience of living under drones as ‘hell on earth’, Rohde explained that even in the areas where strikes were less frequent, the people living there still feared for their lives.[474]

Community members, mental health professionals, and journalists interviewed for this report described how the constant presence of US drones overhead leads to substantial levels of fear and stress in the civilian communities below.[475] One man described the reaction to the sound of the drones as “a wave of terror” coming over the community. “Children, grown-up people, women, they are terrified. . . . They scream in terror.”[476] Interviewees described the experience of living under constant surveillance as harrowing. In the words of one interviewee: “God knows whether they’ll strike us again or not. But they’re always surveying us, they’re always over us, and you never know when they’re going to strike and attack.”[477] Another interviewee who lost both his legs in a drone attack said that “[e]veryone is scared all the time. When we’re sitting together to have a meeting, we’re scared there might be a strike. When you can hear the drone circling in the sky, you think it might strike you. We’re always scared. We always have this fear in our head.”[478]

A Pakistani psychiatrist, who has treated patients presenting symptoms he attributed to experience with or fear of drones, explained that pervasive worry about future trauma is emblematic of “anticipatory anxiety,”[479] common in conflict zones.[480] He explained that the Waziris he has treated who suffer from anticipatory anxiety are constantly worrying, “‘when is the next drone attack going to happen? When they hear drone sounds, they run around looking for shelter.”[481] Another mental health professional who works with drone victims concluded that his patients’ stress symptoms are largely attributable to their belief that “[t]hey could be attacked at any time.”[482]


http://www.livingunderdrones.org/report/

The scars inside: An Iraqi refugee opens up about PTSD
By Shuka Kalantari

http://kalw.org/post/scars-inside-iraqi-refugee-opens-about-ptsd

A study by the Iraqi Society of Psychiatrists in collaboration with the World Health Organization found that 70 percent of children (sample 10,000) in the Sha'ab section of North Baghdad are suffering from trauma-related symptoms. Even if this study is not completely replicated in the whole of Iraq, it clearly shows that huge numbers of children are growing up with mental problems.Many of these children have seen close family members killed; they have walked in streets where they have seen dead and mutilated bodies just lying around. If left untreated, what impact will these mental problems have on the future of Iraq?

First, of course, the suffering, the stress, and the depression that afflicts these children must be alleviated. All of Iraqi society must see that providing expert medical intervention to help these children cope is a moral imperative. The effects of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder are bad enough for professional soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan. It is hard to imagine the effects on a child growing up amongst such carnage. In macho Iraqi society, such children, particularly the boys, tend to suffer in silence for fear of being labelled wimps. In any case, expertise to treat such cases is woefully inadequate in Iraq.


http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/adnan-aldaini/the-plight-of-iraqi-child_b_1184324.html
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
15. Not only soldiers but civilian populations suffer from PSD related to military actions, anywhere
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 11:06 AM
Feb 2015

such actions happen. Google is a great thing, it is amazing to me how rarely American look up how other countries deal with things we also deal with. DU acts as if only the US has ever had measles outbreaks, for example.

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