GOP Actually Wants To End SSDI Altogether.

[TheMastersNemesis]

The brutal truth is that the GOP wants to end SSDI completely. Cuts are really not enough for these politicians. They view anyone who gets a check from the federal government as a bunch of useless takers. If you add up all the GOP rhetoric they loath anyone who does not earn their keep. Ironic that GOP lawmakers do no work themselves. Just look at how much Congress is off under GOP leadership.

The net result of the GOP's attack on the disabled is misery and early death for many of our most vulnerable. Are we any better then the Third Reich, if we do not FORCE these assholes to recant?

[Madmiddle]

1. Funny thing

If I said something like that the sweet little pusses would take my post down. The really funny thing is I absolutely agree with this post.. it's right on about the force.........

[Wellstone ruled]

2. Any idea as to what the round number of

people this would effect? Got to think 20 million plus? So much for Compassionate Conservatism.

[aggiesal]

21. How many of those 20 million voted republican? ...

Thinking this won't affect me!

[kelly1mm]

30. per wikipedia, 10.6 million as of 2011.

At the end of 2011, there were 10.6 million Americans collecting SSDI, up from 7.2 million in 2002

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. I know lots of Pugs on SSDI and consequently early Medicare./NT

[notadmblnd]

4. Not only is congress off much of the time, they have lobbies writing the legislation

ALEC is the first one that pops into my mind. Then they have the nerve to say that the poor and disabled are the useless takers.

Congress needs to take the plank out their own eyes.

[Art_from_Ark]

20. And most of the time, they don't even read the bills they're voting on.

Talk about useless

[TheMastersNemesis]

5. The GOP Views Anyone Receiving Government Assistance With Suspicion.

There is the crazy obsession in the GOP that looks at anyone who does not "justify their existence" by working for their daily bread as un American. Their attitude about the most vulnerable is really beyond sick. It is morbid. And the fact that the GOP is not being publicly flayed for its inhumanity is incomprehensible to say the least.

[Thinkingabout]

6. Does this extend to farm subsidies and welfare defense contracts?

Doubt it does, companies such as GE has been sucking off the government for a long time. With the present congress it is going to be difficult to get the funds transferred. I was talking to a hardnosed RW who is in need of going on SSDI because of his health and told him he better start writing letters to keep SSDI funded, he had to agree this time.

[TheMastersNemesis]

8. Graft, Cronyism And Corruption Are Key Attributes Of The GOP.

[TheMastersNemesis]

7. Using The Forbidden "G" Work.

When you look at the GOP attitude towards all programs is problematic. Whether it is the SNAP programs, SSDI, Social Security, unemployment insurance or any program of the safety net their cutting or even ending attitude towards all of them actually do result in misery and even early death for many vulnerable Americans. The GOP even views vets programs with suspicion.

By not using the "G" word the GOP is given a pass for its inhumanity and cruelty. The only way to put them on the defensive is to go after them aggressively and publicly. Until people of conscience publicly go after them and ridicule them they will only get more sadistic in their attitude. The problem is that so many people are afraid to use the forbidden "G" word because of its association with a sordid past.

The real truth is that virtually ALL GOP politicians and conservatives do NO work for their "daily bread" as they berate others. And the rich in particular became rich by exploiting the system and stealing from others in the form of cheap and unpaid labor. These factors are some of the chief causes of income inequality.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

25. It was Republicans who refused to recognise things like Agent Orange and Gulf War Syndrome....

I looked up the ratings from DAV at Vote Smart around 9/11. All of the 80% and Up were Dems and 20% and below were Republicans.

Despite that there are Vets who BELIEVE the GOP is better on issues regarding Veterans because,...you know,....Dems are all Hippies and spitting at airports and such.

[Blanks]

9. They say they do...

What they really want is to not do a damn thing. They're actually pretty good at doing nothing.

The problem we have is that we try to run for office by pointing out the the things that the republicans WANT to do. This is why we lose elections. They may very well want to do a lot of awful things, but being the lazy slackers that they are - we are the ones blowing hot air about their evil intentions.

What we should talk about are the kind of things that they should be doing. Things like funding infrastructure improvement and the kind of things that republicans used to talk about doing. When we accuse them of trying to cut SSDI and then they don't try we come across as liars.

[onecaliberal]

10. My son is developmentally disabled, these

Rotten fucking evil excuse for humans don't give a shit about anything but killing people and making money. We are completely fucked and I guess my son will die in the street alone when I'm dead.

[DebJ]

13. My son has bipolar disorder, and I was sweating bullets as soon as W was elected.

I have always said that if they pull his assistance, we are going to go downtown and when the explosion comes,
those in DC who are responsible can personally feel the price of it. That's the only way they can learn anything
remotely connected to 'compassion'.... but it's really just same old selfishness.

[onecaliberal]

27. I despise republicans with the intensity

of ten thousand white hot suns.

[smirkymonkey]

39. I'll raise you 2,000.

Bastards.

[freshwest]

33. That is exactly what I'm expecting, too. And it's going to crash down on people fast.

[Newest Reality]

11. What happens to the droves of people

that they take off of the SSDI?

Do they think that more homeless people and indigents living where ever they can is good for a society? Everybody shares in the effects.

Oh, wait, the private prison industry needs people to fill those cots. Well, then, we all pay for that because you know where the money comes from to pay the private prisons.

Those issues need to be brought to light when these ridiculous scam/schemes are proposed.

[Ramses]

12. Imagine millions of vulnerable people out on the streets

or filling up prisons, or literally dying because we have to have all the newest military toys and start news wars of aggression. America is turning into a greedy shithole for the majority of people.

[DebJ]

14. See the bumper sticker on the bottom car picture....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026217075


Eat the Rich

[libodem]

15. Brutal

And heartless. For our poor veterans as well.

Disability is not a moral failing. It's hard enough just living with a permanent injury. No one wants pity. Only dignity.

This makes me furious. It is so inhumane and selfish.

Sounds like Nazis.

[Ramses]

16. They are Nazi's

And Fascists. They have embedded themselves like cockroaches in all levels of government, including our thoroughly corrupt court system.

[libodem]

18. Revolting

And correct. I hope we don't see history repeat itself because of the Oligarchs.

[daredtowork]

24. Yet the GOP are the first to invoke Nazi rhetoric

like "useless eaters" and "death panels" when trying to position themselves morally against the Democrats.

[libodem]

26. So true

[Ramses]

28. Its called projection

republicans and their sympathizers excel in projection. They were the kids in high school who would trip you and then yell at you for not watching where you were walking.

Sociopaths that belong in prison for the rest of their lives where they cant hurt others.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

17. Conservatives think any illness is a moral failing.

Or you're "faking it to get attention"

Except when they get sick, then it's justified.

[meow2u3]

35. They also think disability is made up

in order to "scam the system."

RW disability denialists unleash their hatred even more on people whose disabilities are not apparent at first glance, such as people suffering from diabetes, mental maladies, etc. They've sunk to such a low that these ableist bigots no longer deserve to be called human beings.

[Cha]

19. Yeah, but Dems and kochbaggers are

all the same.. except they're not.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

22. They actually believe the majority of this country is brainwashed...

All of us are suffering from years of being told we need the government to take care of us when we could all take care of ourselves and even THRIVE if we just woke the hell up.

It's a RELIGION with them. As such it needs no proof.

I've seen the LIGHT!!! I'm going into my garage and I'm not coming out until I create an anti-gravity device! They'll LOVE it on Shark Tank!

[daredtowork]

23. Death of a Thousand Cuts

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The GOP will negotiate one partial cut after another and count on lazy and inattentive Dems not to stand up for the weakest members of society and never get back what's taken away. Thus each cut will be a step down the ladder.

This is what INFURIATES me about the current Democratic party, and no amount of cheer-leading for Obama or Elizabeth Warren is going to change the fact that neither of them is standing up for those that can't defend themselves. They are only talking about the "middle classes". If you're a "taker" you can go rot in hell.

And the worst part about all this is that we don't even have the 19th century plan (the big extended family) in place to take care of the elderly and the disabled any more. America is primarily made up of small nuclear families - many single-parent families. We're as close to the bone of "individualism" as we can get. Therefore, we need a social safety net that backs up that kind of social structure. If there is no "family" to fall back on, it HAS to be the community or the State.

Another angle people don't look at, besides earlier taxpayer contributions, is the possibility of future taxpayer contributions if a person was taken care of properly in the first place. The entire last decade has been more or less a wash for me - I've spent most of it unemployed. With proper health care and the security of a "safety net", I probably would have bounced back within a year and continued working despite my disabilities. It was the deprivation of health care and the constant anxiety and stress-overload provoked by the lack of social safety net that left me continually on a downhill slide. Taxpayers work against their own interests by failing to provide a reasonable fallback position for disabled people.

[Skittles]

31. excellent analysis, daredtowork

yes indeed

[riderinthestorm]

37. +10000 nt

[loyalsister]

29. Individualism

They have a basic ideology about who is deserving. That was what the health care debate was about.
I have even come across that mentality about disability among people who are themselves disabled as well as among people who I expect to be supportive of us.

There's this idea circulating among hard core and even left leaning conservatives that they are particularly deserving because they have done more than they have is also part of it. Thus the outrage over "you didn't build that."

I think people were exposed as frauds with that one.

[geomon666]

32. They can kiss my disabled ass.

Actually, it's too good for them to kiss.

[libtodeath]

34. Helping the disabled and needy is money they cant hoard.

[Boxerfan]

36. I just survived the latest "purge"...Called the SSDI "Review"

Some great comments in this thread.

They have already started with the "1000 cuts". I am disabled and just went through a 4 month ordeal of trying to prove I am not a liar.

Frankly I was shocked they could go against a judges determination but I co-operated as much as possible. It became apparent they were fishing for any excuse to deny the validity of my claim.

Lucky thing for me I really am disabled(%$$@@!!) so I survived. If I had failed the test it would have meant my FAMILY of 4 becoming homeless.

The thing that really bites is they rigged this whole economy for a collapse. Then they pull the rug out from the social contract we made while we were able to work.

1st they sold the bulk of our manufacturing to the lowest bidder. The tariff's that had help make America invest in our OWN workers was declared "old fashioned" and done away with for all practical purposes.

Then they allow illegal workers to go untouched from the EMPLOYER standpoint. Occasional jingoistic crackdown on the actual immigrants frothed to a good lather. But the source of the problem is NEVER addressed-the illegal employer.

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One of the Q's on the 10 page + form for the SSDI review was did I dislike any ethnicity (iirc)..
I answered " I hate Republicans".

Gotta be honest of course....

And they have earned my hate. It is not a prejudice-just an observation.

[sorefeet]

38. Millions of people are disabled from

being WORKED LIKE A MULE. One boss man had a saying "don't worry about the mule, just load the wagon". Guess who was the mule? Workers comp is nothing but bullshit or they would be taking care of those people for the rest of their lives. Plus you should draw your SS. The American way is let one person do the work of two or three. When he is worn out throw them away. We are disposable labor.

[Orsino]

40. Well, they want it corporatized/privatized/profitized.

If they succeed in killing it, they'll probably keep the name. It's just that big piles of money that no one owns piss them off.