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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 07:55 PM Feb 2015

Rand Paul Has a Remarkably Silly Idea for a New Currency

Rand Paul's nutty animosity toward the Federal Reserve and modern monetary policy in general are old news by now, so it's not surprising that he'd be intrigued by the idea of cryptocurrencies, given that they aren't controlled by a central bank. However, as Dave Weigel reports at Bloomberg Politics, the Senator from Kentucky told a liberterian tech conference that he's a bit unsure about the biggest cryptocurrency of all, bitcoin, because it isn't backed by any kind of a commodity. (Paul is really intrigued by the idea of tying the value of the dollar to a basket of commodities, presumably including gold.) Instead, he likes the idea of companies issuing their own currencies, possibly backed by their own stock, so that they cut out credit card companies and their fees.

With Bitcoin my concern always was whether or not something has real value. I could imagine a kind of coin that was exchangeable. This gets back to the whole idea of whether money has to be exchangeable for something to have value. What if Bitcoin or Wal-Coin was exchangeable for Wal-Mart stock? What if Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Kroger and maybe 20 retailers got together and issued a coin to deal against a basket of stocks? I think that might be something I'd be interested in investigating. If they do it with a goal of—I hope Visa and Mastercard are not listening—eliminating the credit card companies from the equation—what if Wal-Mart's doubling their profits from 4 percent to something like 8 percent?


This isn't a disastrous suggestion so much as a sort of silly one. Setting aside the existence of gift cards, which are basically currency you can redeem for goods and services at a specific retailer, companies can already go ahead and start their own virtual currencies if they really want. Amazon, for instance, already has. But, as Noah Smith notes, the fact that most of corporate America hasn't jumped on the bandwagon suggests boardrooms see the idea as pointless. Moreover, I doubt many of them would want to deal with the inevitable regulatory headache of issuing "money" that could automatically be converted into shares of an index fund, as well whatever weirdness that would that might do to their stock values.

The longer you think about it, though, the odder and more complicated the concept gets. Take pricing: Would the purchasing power of Walmart/Kroger/K-Mart bucks rise and fall with the index fund? Or would they always be worth $1 at the register? The first route could turn into a terrible deal for the companies, since customers would be able to buy more merchandise as their shares appreciated ($1 paid yesterday could turn into $2 of purchases tomorrow). If they chose the latter approach, they'd essetially be issuing a super stock, the value of which could only go up from the original purchase price, which would likely lead to hoarding.

Anyway, Rand Paul had a strange idea. In other news, it's Thursday.

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http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2015/02/12/rand_paul_cryptocurrency_of_course_he_has_whacky_opinions_about_this.html
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Rand Paul Has a Remarkably Silly Idea for a New Currency (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2015 OP
"Aqua Buddha Bucks" Scuba Feb 2015 #1
"Bozo Bucks" hifiguy Feb 2015 #2
The Daisy BB-gun company used to issue "Daisy dollars" Art_from_Ark Feb 2015 #7
The questions has always been how to deal with Fed problem jakeXT Feb 2015 #3
Perhaps he's been taking advice from the tribble that resides on top of his head Siwsan Feb 2015 #4
posted to for later 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #5
They're ganging up so hard on L'il Curly, I almost feel bad for him. TwilightGardener Feb 2015 #6
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
2. "Bozo Bucks"
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 08:02 PM
Feb 2015

like a Minneapolis bar used as a gimmick. 1 buck got you five bozo bucks, each good for $0.25 at the bar on anything.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
3. The questions has always been how to deal with Fed problem
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 08:06 PM
Feb 2015

There is no inherent need for a monetary agency to exist outside of the national government, except to serve the interests of the financial class as distinct from those of government, industry and labor. And the banking sector’s business plan is to load down real estate, labor, industry and the government with as much interest-bearing debt as possible.

Some people in the US (especially supporters of the congressman Ron Paul) believe that the Federal Reserve is the reason of serious problems within the American financial system. Do you agree with this claim?

The Fed is a reason for serious problems, but not the only reason. Unfortunately, Ron Paul’s proposal opposes paper credit itself, whether issued by the Fed or the Treasury. He wants to return to the gold standard and clash government spending – in effect, to create an economy without government. So what he actually advocates is not only the end of the Fed, but the end of a functioning credit and tax system. The idea is otherworldly and has no possible chance of being enacted, because it would cause a vast debt default as a result of plunging prices, incomes and employment.

http://michael-hudson.com/2012/03/federal-reserve-system/

Siwsan

(26,281 posts)
4. Perhaps he's been taking advice from the tribble that resides on top of his head
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 08:21 PM
Feb 2015

Plausible explanation?

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