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Powerful picture of an EMT after a tough run (Original Post) Major Nikon Feb 2015 OP
I would love to give him a hug, some Valentine hearts - and a raise. djean111 Feb 2015 #1
EMTs are the real deal. Heroes. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #2
YES THEY ARE!!! SkyDaddy7 Feb 2015 #47
My nephew is a firefighter/paramedic. greatauntoftriplets Feb 2015 #3
My sister is a firefighter/paramedic. hunter Feb 2015 #38
I have a lot of admiration and respect for justhanginon Feb 2015 #4
Some DU posts just speak for themselves. R&K nt longship Feb 2015 #5
In the ER one night, overhearing EMTs JayhawkSD Feb 2015 #6
wow takes me back to my one cpr effort as an emt unblock Feb 2015 #7
<3 uppityperson Feb 2015 #43
that is a GREAT photograph . olddots Feb 2015 #8
These professionals TNNurse Feb 2015 #9
couldn't agree more. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2015 #15
Reminds me of a comment I saw on Yahoo News or some online news source... C Moon Feb 2015 #36
speaking from experience... Roy Rolling Feb 2015 #10
Agreed. They are incredibly underpaid. TexasMommaWithAHat Feb 2015 #17
Up here, our pay was horrible until they decided on more or less a polly7 Feb 2015 #25
Wouldn't they be happier beating up a suspect? Enthusiast Feb 2015 #11
They are not police. They treat patients, not suspects. we can do it Feb 2015 #27
They are very busy in my town... Historic NY Feb 2015 #12
Yes, that's pretty much what it's like. nt. polly7 Feb 2015 #13
What a lot of people don't realize is that EMT's have a lot of forms to fill out and cleaning up KittyWampus Feb 2015 #14
We've had many days with two 2.5 hr trips to the city and back, polly7 Feb 2015 #21
respect. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2015 #16
they are truly special people heaven05 Feb 2015 #18
Know the feeling OldRedneck Feb 2015 #19
I could not do this job, wendylaroux Feb 2015 #20
I did Firefighter/EMT work for 5 years Curtis Feb 2015 #22
You have earned a heart Curtis.... redstatebluegirl Feb 2015 #24
Thank you so much. Curtis Feb 2015 #41
Thank you for what you did. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #29
No, thank you. Curtis Feb 2015 #42
Best wishes to you uppityperson Feb 2015 #44
I do help still on committees Curtis Feb 2015 #48
He needs a hug and a raise! redstatebluegirl Feb 2015 #23
My Ph.D. brother had a high powered job, but his passion was his volunteer EMT/Paramedic work. Divernan Feb 2015 #26
Great photo, really captures the feeling. we can do it Feb 2015 #28
Very powerful picture in so many ways uponit7771 Feb 2015 #30
I'm alive today, partly because of EMT's! Stonepounder Feb 2015 #31
Silent heroes, they are Oilwellian Feb 2015 #32
Meh. I think I'd look pretty much the same Orrex Feb 2015 #33
Very powerful kacekwl Feb 2015 #34
Pay tiptonic Feb 2015 #35
Firefighters and EMTs are real heroes. hifiguy Feb 2015 #37
Our son just became an EMT in the small community he lives in usafvet65 Feb 2015 #39
Wow. mahina Feb 2015 #45
K&R Liberal_in_LA Feb 2015 #40
k&r one_voice Feb 2015 #46

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
47. YES THEY ARE!!!
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 07:50 AM
Feb 2015

And they are only paid a fraction of what cops are paid...Because when cops don't get what they want they stop policing the streets & writing tickets holding the society hostage...EMTs keep doing their job helping people for minimum wage lots of times.

hunter

(38,322 posts)
38. My sister is a firefighter/paramedic.
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 09:14 PM
Feb 2015

My wife does similar work.

In our family we talk through the "dead baby" days.

I burned out on this sort of work more than two decades ago when our hemophilia patients were dying of AIDS, sometimes one or two of them a week.

People in the most altruistic professions of our society are not treated fairly by the clueless and sociopathic money people.

justhanginon

(3,290 posts)
4. I have a lot of admiration and respect for
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 11:41 AM
Feb 2015

these men and women. The sickness and sometimes carnage that they see on a daily basis would give most of us horrible ongoing nightmares. There is a physical toll and also a mental toll that takes much strength to endure. In my mind they are special people.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
6. In the ER one night, overhearing EMTs
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 12:11 PM
Feb 2015

I was in the ER dealing with a heart problem, and I was where I could overhear a pair of EMTs on the radio with the ER doctor. They were dealing with a crash between a car and a motorcycle and were asking permission to "declare" the motorcyclist. Listening to their description of his injuries was awful, crowned when they said that, "Yes, he's breathing, but with each breath air is whistling in and out through the fractures in his head." I could hear the stress in the EMT's voice. The doctor said to go ahead and declare him.

Read the next morning that the motorcycle had been going through an intersection with a green light at reasonable speed. The car was turning left against a red light at high speed, estimated at 80mph, and hit the motorcycle. Driver of car was not injured, and had run the light because he was late for work.

Dealing with death is hard under any circumstances. Dealing with death that is so utterly senseless and violent...

unblock

(52,277 posts)
7. wow takes me back to my one cpr effort as an emt
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 12:17 PM
Feb 2015

we arrived on scene and hopped out the back door as usual, to find a policeman running at top speed toward us, carrying a football under his arm, shouting "back in the rig, back in the rig!"

back in the rig we go, and the policeman hops in and lays down the football on the gurney.

only it's not a football, it's a 7-month old girl, no breathing, no pulse, blood coming out of her ears.

we did everything we could all the way to the hospital, which seemed to take forever even though the driver going faster than he'd ever gone before. it's like they said in training, you can't care if your arms are getting tired, you just don't stop until you've handed your patient over to the e.r. or someone who can officially pronounce does so.

usually we leave before we find out the result. in this case, we saw the parents bawling their hearts out as we were packing up.

they tell you 19 out of 20 times, an emt's cpr efforts will end with a dead patient. that's because cpr is really for people already on the scene when breathing and/or circulation stops. by the time emt's arrive it's usually too late.

but that does nothing to help the kick in the gut, even 20 years on.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
43. <3
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 11:16 PM
Feb 2015

<3

Mine was doing waiting in the er for the ambulance to deliver our cpr instructor. Good cpr was done, but...

C Moon

(12,219 posts)
36. Reminds me of a comment I saw on Yahoo News or some online news source...
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 08:55 PM
Feb 2015

in which some piece of trash lady called emergency personnel "overpaid cry babies."
If that icon she used was her, she stands a good change of clutching her chest one day and reaching for a phone to dial 911.
EMT's are amazing people!

Roy Rolling

(6,925 posts)
10. speaking from experience...
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 12:48 PM
Feb 2015

I can speak from experience on this one, I am a former NREMT. EMTs are the most grossly-underpaid segments of the healthcare system. Their skills have gone from being "ambulance driver" to a critical link that keeps patients alive until they can be seen at a hospital.

It is an emotionally and physically demanding task, and one that gets far too little attention in the discussion of healthcare budgets. EMTs need a good union, to protect them from the excesses of a top-heavy hospital industry.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
25. Up here, our pay was horrible until they decided on more or less a
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 01:42 PM
Feb 2015

national standard .... which almost doubled it, for us.

Historic NY

(37,452 posts)
12. They are very busy in my town...
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 01:02 PM
Feb 2015

my local paramedic - volunteer ambulance corps employes 15 full-time paramedics who are backed up by 40 or so volunteer EMT's - drivers. My niece is the president & a FT NICU nurse. I don't know how she does it.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
14. What a lot of people don't realize is that EMT's have a lot of forms to fill out and cleaning up
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 01:04 PM
Feb 2015

to do plus a sometimes long ride back to local. We still have volunteer EMT's here. It's tough cause it can take a big chunk of the day for one call and employers have to be very understanding.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
21. We've had many days with two 2.5 hr trips to the city and back,
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 01:30 PM
Feb 2015

plus one, two, or however many other calls to closer hospitals. The PCR's can take a long time to finish up at the hospital because more often than not you're too busy to do much to it on the way up, plus helping in the E.R. until they're settled, .... in our smaller hospitals, helping pts. stand for x-rays if they're too weak - it can end up being an hour there with everything combined. And when you do get home after completely cleaning up the unit and restocking, checking the equipment, you don't sleep unless you're totally burnt out, because you're either so upset, or you're too on edge waiting for the next call. That's my experience anyway, but it's (except for causing permanent insomnia) still the best thing I've ever done.

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
19. Know the feeling
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 01:21 PM
Feb 2015

I'm 70 yrs old, retired from the Army in 1995, worked several jobs, then retired for good.

Six years ago, I started volunteering with local rescue squad -- we serve a rural VA county, 12,000 people, 30% over 65. I'm now an Advanced Life Support EMT. We are all volunteers

We had a call Wednesday morning, 0200 -- house fire. Father asleep on sofa downstairs dived through a window to get out; broken glass caused huge, deep lacerations in abdomen, both arms, head, legs. Went back through the window to get 19-month-old daughter who was sleeping upstairs; fire forced him back, he couldn't get to her. Roof and two walls collapsed just as we and volunteer fire dept arrived.

Our local general hospital does not have trauma services, so, we had to call a helicopter from Richmond, all the while keeping his intestines in his abdomen, bandaging, treating for smoke inhalation, and calming him down over the loss of this daughter (mother is a "crackhead who lives in NC" -- his words).

The child was found dead late Wednesday afternoon after FD cooled down the rubble enough to search.

Most of our calls -- and most rescue calls -- are routine -- shortness of breath, broken arm, chest pains, low blood glucose -- but now and then there are calls like the one in this photo. They stay with you.

Curtis

(348 posts)
22. I did Firefighter/EMT work for 5 years
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 01:38 PM
Feb 2015

And it broke my brain. Picking up a motorcycle accident victim with a snow shovel, doing CPR on a 16 year old who shot himself in the head with a .357 because his body wouldn't die and other horrors along with being in an explosion that almost killed me left me with PTSD. I'm glad I did the work, but it broke me.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
29. Thank you for what you did.
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 02:36 PM
Feb 2015

I can't say anything to make it easier, but you did a great thing, and you have my utmost respect for it.

Curtis

(348 posts)
42. No, thank you.
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 11:11 PM
Feb 2015

This kind of recognition helps. I just wish I could get myself to go back out and help because I was very good at it.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
44. Best wishes to you
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 11:19 PM
Feb 2015

It is difficult and too often brains are broken. Can you find some sort of non-emergent not life or death care situation? It is hard when that happens, been there, am that.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
23. He needs a hug and a raise!
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 01:40 PM
Feb 2015

I have seen these people in action, they are fabulous! They hate losing a patient, it helps to remind them how many they save, but not much . They more than earn their pay!

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
26. My Ph.D. brother had a high powered job, but his passion was his volunteer EMT/Paramedic work.
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 01:44 PM
Feb 2015

He volunteered for this for over 10 years, and then died at age 56 of an inoperable brain tumor. His fellow EMTs/paramedics provided a terrific amount of emotional support and home care and visits to him and his family in his final illness. It was only when they read his obituary in the paper that they realized "Dave" was Dr. Dave working with the next generation of super computers. The church was overflowing at his funeral.

He told me his passion in life was helping people and that if he had it to do over, he'd be a medical doctor. A good-hearted man who died to young. The older I get, the more I miss my big brother.

we can do it

(12,190 posts)
28. Great photo, really captures the feeling.
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 02:28 PM
Feb 2015

It's a tough job, mentally and physically. Thankfully retired now and proud of all who still do the job.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
31. I'm alive today, partly because of EMT's!
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 03:33 PM
Feb 2015

About 10 years ago I just passed out in the garage one Saturday evening. My wife came out and found me unresponsive and called 911. Luckily we were fairly close to the nearest fire station and even semi-conscious I could hear the siren start up while she was still on the phone with the 911 operator.

The EMT's were the first ones on the scene (followed by the cops and the fire truck). They took one look and knew they were transporting me. The got me into the ambulance, started an IV drop, slapped the EKG leads on me and took off for the hospital. You know those TV shows where the ambulance arrives, pushes the gurney into the ER and it is surrounded by doctors and nurses? That was pretty much the scene when I arrived. But by then I was stabilized.

Remember, this was a Saturday night. Sunday they called in a team and did an angiogram on me. Found 3 arteries on my heart that were about 90% blocked AND a hanging clot (the one that they refer to as the 'widow maker' when they think no civilians are listening) AND a serious case of afib (atrial fibrillation). On Monday morning at 8:00am they cracked me open, did a triple bypass, cleaned out the clot, and did a MAZE procedure to try and get rid of the afib.

Today I am healthy and have been told that I am a poster person (can't really say 'child' or 'boy', I'm a little old for that) for open heart surgery. I even had one cardiologist tell me that if he hadn't seen the scar on my chest he would never have know I had surgery by listening to my heart.

A big thanks to the EMT's who sized up a critical situation and acted with speed and professionalism.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
32. Silent heroes, they are
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 05:32 PM
Feb 2015

Several years ago we were driving North on Interstate 81 just outside of Harrisonburg, VA. Traffic came to a complete stop and after inching along for about fifteen minutes, we came upon the accident causing the backed up traffic. It was a single car accident that showed a convertible with two bodies in the front seat, covered in sheets. They must have rolled and were probably crushed. Right next to the car was a vehicle similar in size to the one in your photo, with four EMTs leaning against the back of it looking completely spent. Next to them, near the car, there was a pile of hastily ripped open packages that must have enclosed every device available to them to revive the victims. I mean, there was a LOT of paper, plastic, and rubber gloves near them.

I'll never forget how exhausted the EMTs looked and thinking about the tremendous amount of energy they had to exert during their attempts to save those poor people. It was so apparent by the looks on their faces that they really tried and were visibly devastated for being unable to save them. A haunting vision to be sure, I doubt I'll ever forget it. But I've always held a special place in my heart for EMTs after seeing their faces that day.

Orrex

(63,218 posts)
33. Meh. I think I'd look pretty much the same
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 05:53 PM
Feb 2015

Well, except for the way I'd be sobbing into the pile of vomit I'd have unloaded between my shoes.

usafvet65

(46 posts)
39. Our son just became an EMT in the small community he lives in
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 10:02 PM
Feb 2015

His mother and I have always been proud of his accomplishments. For me this one is especially significant. His choice to take on this often difficult job helping others. This is something we can now share. His service as an EMT in his community comes 50 years after I served as a military medic. And yes we all will probably have a run that ends like the photo above. But we all share the joy of helping others.

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