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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 06:32 AM Feb 2015

NSA Spy Program So Secret Judge Can't Explain Why It Can't Be Challenged

NSA Spy Program So Secret Judge Can't Explain Why It Can't Be Challenged


Wednesday, February 11, 2015

A federal judge ruled in favor of the National Security Agency in a key surveillance case on Tuesday, dismissing a challenge which claimed the government's spying operations were groundless and unconstitutional.

Filed in 2008 by the Electronic Frontier Foundation, the lawsuit, Jewel v. NSA, aimed to end the agency's unwarranted surveillance of U.S. citizens, which the consumer advocacy group said violated the 4th Amendment.

The lawsuit also implicated AT&T in the operations, alleging that the phone company "routed copies of Internet traffic to a secret room in San Francisco controlled by the NSA." That charge was based off of a 2006 document leak by former AT&T technician and whistleblower Mark Klein, who disclosed a collection program between the company and the NSA that sent AT&T user metadata to the intelligence agency.

US District Judge Jeffrey White on Tuesday denied a partial summary judgment motion to the EFF and granted a cross-motion to the government, dismissing the case without a trial. In his order, White said the plaintiff, Carolyn Jewel, an AT&T customer, was unable to prove she was being targeted for surveillance—and that if she could, "any possible defenses would require impermissible disclosure of state secret information."


http://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/02/11/nsa-spy-program-so-secret-judge-cant-explain-why-it-cant-be-challenged

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_White

On July 25, 2002, White was nominated by President George W. Bush to a seat on the United States District Court for the Northern District of California vacated by Charles A. Legge. White was confirmed by the United States Senate on November 14, 2002, and received commission on November 15, 2002.


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NSA Spy Program So Secret Judge Can't Explain Why It Can't Be Challenged (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Feb 2015 OP
Judas priest, we are lost for a very long time, imo. nt Mnemosyne Feb 2015 #1
"Secret" = euphemism for corrupt, antidemocratic, and criminal. nt woo me with science Feb 2015 #2
this is a small glimpse of a government which is made functionally unaccountable bigtree Feb 2015 #3
Everything secret degenerates, even the administration of justice... Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #4
Democracy was nice while it lasted 90-percent Feb 2015 #5
Corrupt billhicks76 Feb 2015 #6
leave something so essential to chance? reddread Feb 2015 #11
This is why they stole the 2,000 election. Enthusiast Feb 2015 #9
WTF? blackspade Feb 2015 #7
More and more the judiciary is complicit... elias49 Feb 2015 #8
lady liberty raped and left for dead reddread Feb 2015 #10
Well in all fairness, just because he is a judge does not mean he also cannot Rex Feb 2015 #12
K & R !!! WillyT Feb 2015 #13
I thought our judiciary would be our last defense Oilwellian Feb 2015 #14
"The day the music died...." riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #15
is that decision appealable? nt grasswire Feb 2015 #16
Pm kick! Nt riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #17
Insanity at the highest levels. n/t kickysnana Feb 2015 #18
K&R woo me with science Feb 2015 #19
Secret laws, secret police, secret courts. Only the People are not allowed any secrets. Scuba Feb 2015 #20
Am kick! Nt riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #21
Secret Government and Secret Laws are un-American. Octafish Feb 2015 #22

bigtree

(86,004 posts)
3. this is a small glimpse of a government which is made functionally unaccountable
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 07:40 AM
Feb 2015

... by the very institution put in place to make it accountable.

The more secret the action, the bigger the operation, the less chance it stands to our account.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
4. Everything secret degenerates, even the administration of justice...
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 08:14 AM
Feb 2015
Everything secret degenerates, even the administration of justice; nothing is safe that does not show how it can bear discussion and publicity. Lord Acton

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
5. Democracy was nice while it lasted
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 08:24 AM
Feb 2015

Wow! Just wow! This NSA Spy Program is about as un-American as you can get.

America is now a totalitarian fascist police state Oligarchy.

9-11 changed everything and obliterated our Democracy. Who in government is going to apologize for all those soldiers that fought wars to preserve the Constitution and the American way of life? They apparently died in vain.

-90% Jimmy

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
6. Corrupt
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 08:44 AM
Feb 2015

I think it's obvious that the Bush family and certain political and military actors purposefully allowed 911 to occur.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
12. Well in all fairness, just because he is a judge does not mean he also cannot
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 10:16 AM
Feb 2015

be a total fucking asshole. Another judge that doesn't do his job or doesn't know how. Pathetic, but that is America for you.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
15. "The day the music died...."
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 12:51 PM
Feb 2015

Sorry but that songs been stuck in my head and feels apropros this am in light of this news...


(Rider feeling melancholy...)



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