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rogerashton

(3,920 posts)
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 10:41 PM Feb 2015

I recently learned that my great-grandfather was an orphan train child.

In the late nineteenth century, urban orphans were put on trains west and offered for adoption or for sale as indentured servants.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orphan_Train

(I hadn't known that indentured service existed that late in American history.)

Anyway, this is the story my auntie told me. My auntie, at 88, is still active and her hair is iron-gray, not white. Her mind is sharp. So while I don't know for sure that the story is true, I have no reason to think it is a fantasy.

According to my auntie, her grandpa Charlie was sold. His indenture was not hard. His master gave him the same food that the family ate, better food than he had known before, and a place in the barn to sleep with blankets and a woodstove to keep him warm. He worked on the farm and did not learn to read as a child. I was told that he stayed on after the seven years of the indenture, but that one day when his master hit him, he left. He had only the clothes on his body, but was able to get work, and it developed that he had a useful talent. Somehow he had learned numbers and could do sums and differences in his head. This made him a profitable employee in a world before cash registers.

He never remembered his real surname and did not know how old he was. At some point he adopted or acquired a surname common in several Western European countries, which I will not mention.

He married "above his station" and his wife taught him to read. He became a merchant on his own account, joined the run of the Cherokee Strip in Oklahoma, and became locally wealthy. That, at least, is the story my auntie told me.

Mother never told that story. Mother often seemed to have neatened up the family history -- to make the family seem more respectable -- and perhaps that's why.

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I recently learned that my great-grandfather was an orphan train child. (Original Post) rogerashton Feb 2015 OP
Very interesting.Thanks for sharing SummerSnow Feb 2015 #1
I am from the lower Midwest and DURHAM D Feb 2015 #2
i have heard about the orphan train. didnt realize the kids were used as labor Liberal_in_LA Feb 2015 #3
How fascinating. 3catwoman3 Feb 2015 #4
You may be able to learn his real surname through genealogical research. Gormy Cuss Feb 2015 #5
My mother did quite a bit of that -- rogerashton Feb 2015 #12
If she did that before the internet it's worth redoing. Gormy Cuss Feb 2015 #13
Thank you for sharing that ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #6
There are several books about the orphan trains. beveeheart Feb 2015 #7
the early 20th century KT2000 Feb 2015 #8
Very interesting story. AtomicKitten Feb 2015 #9
Elderly relatives like your Auntie can be a treasure trove of early family history. I hope you... Hekate Feb 2015 #10
What a neat insight into your history. My uncles arthritisR_US Feb 2015 #11

DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)
2. I am from the lower Midwest and
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 11:08 PM
Feb 2015

grew up in a small town, a farming community. When I was a kid we were aware of several local people who had arrived on the orphan trains. They were respected members of the community and came to our school and spoke of their experiences. They spoke about being treated as members of the family and like everyone worked very hard. I know that we just heard the good stories from them but they were proud of what they had accomplished and the community was enriched by their presence.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
5. You may be able to learn his real surname through genealogical research.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 11:52 PM
Feb 2015

Last edited Wed Feb 11, 2015, 03:00 PM - Edit history (1)

You can certainly confirm his history as a merchant if he became wealthy.

I've gotten through several brick walls in my own ancestry. Changed names, changed ethnicities, you name it. If you want to pursue this, the first step is to trace him in census, the second is to look for city directories and tax records for him.

rogerashton

(3,920 posts)
12. My mother did quite a bit of that --
Wed Feb 11, 2015, 08:11 AM
Feb 2015

though that was before the internet, and it is easier now. But either she missed it, or ....

Funny -- she told me all about the "black sheeps" on Dad's side. And they were pretty bad sorts.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
13. If she did that before the internet it's worth redoing.
Wed Feb 11, 2015, 02:59 PM
Feb 2015

There are many more fully indexed records available now. That can make it easier to connect the dots. One of the long shot sources that works well for "bad sorts" are historic newspapers because bad behavior tended to be news.

Also, paid sites like Ancestry can be useful for finding others researching the same people. One of my brick walls involved a family with an English surname but I knew they were French-Canadian. After years of searching I guessed through circumstantial information what their actual surname was but it was only last year that I found someone who had source documents for the family under the original surname and some with the adopted surname that I was able to confirm it.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
6. Thank you for sharing that ...
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 11:59 PM
Feb 2015

family history is always interesting ... though sometimes, difficult to hear, and harder to tell.

If I can offer some advice ... research as much as you can about the Orphan Trains and your family history ... and pass it on to the young'ins in your family.

I'll be surprised by the positive effect it has/will have on them.

beveeheart

(1,371 posts)
7. There are several books about the orphan trains.
Wed Feb 11, 2015, 12:37 AM
Feb 2015

The one I read recently is by Cristina Baker Kline. I recommend it if you'd like to learn more about these children and what they endured.

KT2000

(20,588 posts)
8. the early 20th century
Wed Feb 11, 2015, 02:00 AM
Feb 2015

had some similar arrangements, especially during the Depression. Parents who could not afford their children would leave them by the side of the road, sell them to farmers, drop them at orphanages and things we will never know about. It was a world without a safety net.

Hekate

(90,837 posts)
10. Elderly relatives like your Auntie can be a treasure trove of early family history. I hope you...
Wed Feb 11, 2015, 02:19 AM
Feb 2015

...can get her to talking some more, or even writing things down for you.

arthritisR_US

(7,299 posts)
11. What a neat insight into your history. My uncles
Wed Feb 11, 2015, 02:31 AM
Feb 2015

used to tell me interesting revelations about my family's history. I am so glad they did because it filled in so many pieces.

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