The reason Sen Warren doesn't wish to run. She knows who she is and who she isn't.

[CK_John]

She realizes that her life experience is as a professor. A giver of knowledge and a searcher of knowledge, not a life of making decisions or supervising employees.

The Senate fits in with her life experiences and she knows enough than to let her ego get in front of the things she wishes to accomplish.

[arcane1]

1. I know it sounds crazy, but maybe she doesn't want to be president. I certainly don't!

I think she would be a great president but I respect her decision if she chooses not to run.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

3. I want to be President.

But only so I can propose mandatory breast-feeding pit bulls at all Olive Gardens, and issue an EO that requires all fried chicken to use cornflake breading.

Then, just sit back and read DU for a couple hours.

[yuiyoshida]

15. Yes but would you

bomb the moon?



I kid! I kid!!!

[Dr Hobbitstein]

17. I think, until we can prove otherwise,

the moon should be considered an enemy of the US.

[dhill926]

27. that just made me laugh out loud...

[VanillaRhapsody]

20. she has ALREADY chosen not to...

the decision has already been made....some just refuse to respect her and it.

[yeoman6987]

21. Who wants to be dissected on every aspect of your life?

The go back to preschool ractically to find dirt. Her ex-husband will be harassed to provide any tip bit nonsense he can come up with even though the divorse could have been the best in history. Who wants that? I sure wouldn't.

[MannyGoldstein]

2. She's never had the life experience of starting a ruinous war

for perceived political gain. Nor has she dodged the dreaded fantom Bosnian snipers.

Important live experiences. Glad she knows to not push too hard.

Do you similarly feel that President Obama should have known his limitations when he ran for President in his first term as Senator?

[CK_John]

6. Yes

[MannyGoldstein]

8. So who might you propose as a better alternative? nt

[madokie]

10. Never miss a chance

do you third way Manny

so shallow LOL

[MannyGoldstein]

13. I post facts, you respond with a personal attack.

I'll leave it to DU's readership to decide who's shallow.

[FSogol]

18. Translation: Disagreeing with Manny = a personal attack.

[MannyGoldstein]

22. Calling someone "shallow" is not a personal attack?

You're going to go with that?

[FSogol]

23. What if I were to call someone a delicate little flower? How would that go over?

LOL at "I'll leave it to DU's readership to decide"

[madokie]

29. Theres a difference between stating a fact and a personal attack.

I didn't mean it to be a person attack but if that is how you want to take it I'll let you. Its no skin off my ass you know.

The fact I implied was you never miss a chance to get a dig in on President Obama, thats a factual statement btw.

To state another fact. I had you and a few others on ignore for a long time because of that kind of bullshit but from time to time I clear out my ignore list just in case I make a mistake otherwise I'd never have known the fact that you never miss a chance at a personal attack on the President.

Anyways have a good evening sir

[madokie]

25. LOL

[madinmaryland]

11. She has also not had the experience of raising $1 billion from less than five "donors".

[MannyGoldstein]

12. But she has had the experience of succesfully starting

a major new government agency.

And, on top of that, it's designed to help the 99%

Oh, IIRC, she raised more money than any other Senate candidate in 2012.

[madinmaryland]

14. I thought she raised from millions of donors, not a handful.

[MannyGoldstein]

16. An office that she won?

Against an incumbent who'd been named the most popular politician in her state at the beginning of the race?

Oh... you changed your question.

[madinmaryland]

19. Sorry. I was reading a Hillary thread and got things mixed up.

[MineralMan]

28. She has never been in a position to do so.

If she ran and was elected, I believe she would make decisions as President that would have those who appear to be supporting her now calling for her head. Such is the job of President. I'd give her a month before some in this very thread would be harshly criticizing her.

Being President often requires making very unpopular decisions, and Warren would be no exception, I am sure.

[FrodosPet]

4. She's not allowed not to run

Drafting young people into military or other public service is bad.

However, drafting someone who seems to show no signs of actually wanting the job is acceptable as a method of convincing her that she MUST BE the next President

[Thinkingabout]

5. Spot on, she is very good in her field of expertise, understands how

To work on making things better and she will. Having the experience to take action when it I needed just may be a big problem. Not everyone is suited to be the chief engineer on a train but are really good helpers.

[WhiteTara]

7. Elizabeth Warren for Democratic Senate Leader

I think Harry should pass the baton to her. She could make a difference. With Pelosi, Warren and Clinton, together they could clean house.

[peacebird]

9. Clinton is too beholdened to wall street to think about main street. She won't "clean house"

[VanillaRhapsody]

24. Oh good gawd THIS again,.....How many times do I have to debunk this bovine feces?

Hillary Clinton on Budget & Economy

We need bankruptcy reform, but we need the right kind. (Aug 2014)
1998: Personally lobbied Congress against bankruptcy bill. (Apr 2014)
The economy is not working for middle class families. (Jan 2008)
Look back to 1990s to see how I’d be fiscally responsible. (Dec 2007)
Balanced budget replaced with rising costs & falling wages. (Jun 2007)
2000: Eight years of a great economy is not enough. (Jan 2007)
Co-sponsored bills totaling $502B in spending thru 2005. (Oct 2006)
Use tax dollars to upgrade infrastructure, not for stadium. (Oct 2000)
Pay down debt & cut taxes within balanced budget. (Sep 2000)
Supports Niagara casino, but prefers job creation strategy. (Sep 2000)
Protect next generation by paying off national debt. (Aug 2000)
We have outlived the usefulness of Bretton Woods. (Jun 1999)
The economy creates consumers but cannot create citizens. (Jun 1999)
Invest in people instead of “smokestack chasing”. (Feb 1997)
Voting Record

Voted to limit credit card interest to 30%. (Jan 2008)
FactCheck: Consistently against making bankruptcy stricter. (Jan 2008)
2005 bankruptcy bill was by big credit cards & lenders. (Jan 2008)
Voted YES on $60B stimulus package for jobs, infrastructure, & energy. (Sep 2008)
Voted NO on paying down federal debt by rating programs' effectiveness. (Mar 2007)
Voted NO on $40B in reduced federal overall spending. (Dec 2005)
Require full disclosure about subprime mortgages. (Dec 2007)
Reform mortgage rules to prevent foreclosure & bankruptcy. (Feb 2008)

Hillary Clinton on Corporations

OpEd: Disagrees with progressives on corporatism & military. (Dec 2014)
Take back $55B in Bush’s industry give-aways. (Apr 2008)
FactCheck: Pushed Wal-Mart for women managers & environment. (Jan 2008)
World Bank should impose rules on sovereign wealth funds. (Jan 2008)
Bush defanged the Consumer Product Safety Commission. (Dec 2007)
FactCheck: Yes, Bush shrunk CPSC; but it shrank before Bush. (Dec 2007)
Outraged at CEO compensation. (Oct 2007)
Stop bankruptcies to get rid of pension responsibilities. (Aug 2007)
Enough with corporate welfare; enough with golden parachutes. (Jun 2007)
Close lobbyists’ revolving door; end no-bid contracts. (Jun 2007)
1976 Rose Law: Fought for industry against electric rate cut. (Jun 2007)
Corporate lawyer at Rose Law while Bill was Attorney General. (Jun 2007)
Corporate elite treat working-class America as invisible. (Apr 2007)
Companies get rewarded with hard-working people left hanging. (Mar 2007)
1980s: Loved Wal-Mart's "Buy America" program. (Jun 2004)
1970s: Potential conflict of interest when GM sued Arkansas. (Nov 1997)
Businesses play social role in US; gov’t oversight required. (Sep 1996)
Family-friendly work policies are good for business. (Sep 1996)
Angry at unacceptable acquiescence to greed in the 1980s. (Jun 1994)
Serving on boards provides ties but requires defending too. (Aug 1993)
Voted YES on repealing tax subsidy for companies which move US jobs offshore. (Mar 2005)
Voted YES on restricting rules on personal bankruptcy. (Jul 2001)
Rated 35% by the US COC, indicating a mixed business voting record. (Dec 2003)

Hillary Clinton on Free Trade

Chief advocate for Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). (Aug 2014)
TPP agreement creates more growth and better growth. (Aug 2014)
Global trading system isn't up to standards of fairness. (Jun 2014)
China benefits from WTO and should play by WTO rules. (Jun 2014)
Have a trade prosecutor to enforce the trade agreements. (Feb 2008)
AdWatch: Supported NAFTA in 1998; opposed CAFTA since 2005. (Jan 2008)
Criticized trade pacts for weak labor standards. (Nov 2007)
FactCheck: for NAFTA while First Lady; now against CAFTA. (Oct 2007)
Export from big agribusiness, but also from small farmers. (Aug 2007)
Smart, pro-American trade: NAFTA has hurt workers. (Aug 2007)
No fast-track authority for this president. (Aug 2007)
Better approach: real trade adjustment assistance. (Aug 2007)
End tax breaks for outsourcing jobs. (Jun 2007)
Defended outsourcing of US jobs to India. (Oct 2005)
Globalization should not substitute for humanization. (Jun 1999)
Supports MFN for China, despite concerns over human rights. (Oct 2000)
Voting Record

Though Bill supported it, Hillary opposed NAFTA. (Oct 2007)
Voted against CAFTA despite Bill Clinton’s pushing NAFTA. (Oct 2005)
Voted YES on free trade agreement with Oman. (Jun 2006)
Voted NO on implementing CAFTA for Central America free-trade. (Jul 2005)
Voted YES on establishing free trade between US & Singapore. (Jul 2003)
Voted YES on establishing free trade between the US and Chile. (Jul 2003)
Voted NO on extending free trade to Andean nations. (May 2002)
Voted YES on granting normal trade relations status to Vietnam. (Oct 2001)
Voted YES on removing common goods from national security export rules. (Sep 2001)
Build a rule-based global trading system. (Aug 2000)
Rated 17% by CATO, indicating a pro-fair trade voting record. (Dec 2002)
Extend trade restrictions on Burma to promote democracy. (Jun 2007)

Hillary Clinton on Jobs

No salary increase for Congress until minimum wage increased. (Jul 2007)
Would accept minimum wage as president. (Jul 2007)
Stand up for unions; organize for fair wages. (Jun 2007)
Get tough with China and bring jobs back home. (Feb 2007)
Minimum wage increases haven’t kept up with Congress’ wages. (Dec 2006)
Passed 2 planks of 7-plank platform, “New Jobs for New York”. (Oct 2006)
Minimum wage should be tied to congressional salaries. (Jun 2006)
Pushed for extension of unemployment insurance. (Feb 2004)
The working poor deserve a living wage. (Oct 1999)
America can afford to raise the minimum wage. (Sep 1999)
Recently “we’re in it together” became “you’re on your own”. (Sep 1996)
Voted YES on extending unemployment benefits from 39 weeks to 59 weeks. (Nov 2008)
Voted NO on terminating legal challenges to English-only job rules. (Mar 2008)
Voted YES on restricting employer interference in union organizing. (Jun 2007)
Voted YES on increasing minimum wage to $7.25. (Feb 2007)
Voted YES on raising the minimum wage to $7.25 rather than $6.25. (Mar 2005)
Voted NO on repealing Clinton's ergonomic rules on repetitive stress. (Mar 2001)
Protect overtime pay protections. (Jun 2003)
Rated 85% by the AFL-CIO, indicating a pro-union voting record. (Dec 2003)
Allow an Air Traffic Controller's Union. (Jan 2006)
Sponsored bill linking minimum wage to Congress' pay raises. (May 2006)
Extend unemployment compensation during recession. (Jan 2008)
Ban discriminatory compensation; allow 2 years to sue. (Jan 2009)
Sponsored bill enforcing against gender pay discrimination. (Jan 2009)

Hillary Clinton on Tax Reform

Absolutely no tax increase on people earning under $250K. (Apr 2008)
Perhaps raise capital gains tax, but at most to 20%. (Apr 2008)
Rescind tax cuts for those making more than $250,000 a year. (Feb 2008)
AdWatch: cut taxes for the middle class. (Feb 2008)
Wealthy should go back to paying pre-Bush tax rates. (Jan 2008)
Want to restore the tax rates we had in the ‘90s. (Dec 2007)
Freeze estate tax at 2009 level of $7 million per couple. (Oct 2007)
Why cut off payroll contribution at $95,000? (Jun 2007)
Cut alternative minimum tax, not billionaire tax cuts. (Mar 2007)
Expand child tax credit for child’s first year. (Dec 2006)
End Bush tax cuts;take things away from rich for common good. (Oct 2006)
To get America back on track, cut short tax cuts. (Sep 2005)
Social issues matter; wrong time for tax cuts. (Nov 2000)
NY share of federal taxes is too high. (Feb 2000)
GOP tax plan would hurt New York’s students. (Aug 1999)
Voting Record

Just Say No to GOP tax plan. (Sep 1999)
Voted YES on increasing tax rate for people earning over $1 million. (Mar 2008)
Voted NO on allowing AMT reduction without budget offset. (Mar 2008)
Voted NO on raising the Death Tax exemption to $5M from $1M. (Feb 2008)
Voted NO on repealing the Alternative Minimum Tax. (Mar 2007)
Voted NO on raising estate tax exemption to $5 million. (Mar 2007)
Voted NO on supporting permanence of estate tax cuts. (Aug 2006)
Voted NO on permanently repealing the `death tax`. (Jun 2006)
Voted YES on $47B for military by repealing capital gains tax cut. (Feb 2006)
Voted YES on retaining reduced taxes on capital gains & dividends. (Feb 2006)
Voted YES on extending the tax cuts on capital gains and dividends. (Nov 2005)
Voted NO on $350 billion in tax breaks over 11 years. (May 2003)
Voted YES on reducing marriage penalty instead of cutting top tax rates. (May 2001)
Voted YES on increasing tax deductions for college tuition. (May 2001)
Rated 21% by NTU, indicating a "Big Spender" on tax votes. (Dec 2003)
Rated 80% by the CTJ, indicating support of progressive taxation. (Dec 2006)

[RiverLover]

26. So you know her personally?

Can you get me an autograph?

[GeorgeGist]

30. According to my sources, she's at the top of Hillary's list ...

for SCOTUS.

[djean111]

31. Wow! A mind reader!

Is this from Warren's lips to your mouth? Or just conjecture designed to hopefully dampen? Because there is pretty much nothing anyone can say that would make me like Hillary.

[CK_John]

32. I think you should worry more if Hillary doesn't run. What do you think the world will be like

a year from now?

Put your world view into its proper prospective and wonder why so few want to run. Just maybe they understand that our party has no chance of winning in 2016.

[Autumn]

34. Why do you think our party has no chance of winning in 2016? n/t

[CK_John]

35. There is no there there.

[joshcryer]

33. It's unfortunate, actually.

Because you have this person who knows how administrators work and how lower level administrative policy works, and as soon as she got in the Senate, she played the "blame game" for administrators who aren't perfect and who don't have much power.

She could've easily used her experience to change that but decided not to.