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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 05:07 PM Feb 2015

Student Refused Inhaler Because She Forgot Part Of Her School Uniform

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/health/teacher-confiscates-students-inhaler-return-missing-piece-school-uniform

A U.K. girl was told by her teacher that she couldn’t have her asthma inhaler because she lost the tie that was part of the school’s uniform, and now, her father is demanding answers.

Reports say that the student lost her tie, and as “security” for being given a replacement, the teacher kept the girl’s inhaler. Garry Gould, the student’s father, says he found out about it days later when his daughter came home from school out of breath. Upon finding out about the confiscation, Gould was forced to call the family doctor to get his 16-year-old daughter Sian another inhaler.

“I couldn’t believe what I was hearing,” Gould said. “The fact that an adult, even worse a teacher, thought it was acceptable to take away a child’s medication is unreal. When I found out I went mad. Sian hadn’t had her inhaler for a few days because she still couldn’t find her own tie. She didn’t want to worry us. To think she was without medication that could potentially save her life is so scary.

“We contacted the school and the teacher wasn’t in to return it,” Gould continued. “We rang the doctors for a replacement and they couldn’t believe the reason behind why she needed one. I actually googled whether or not a teacher had the power to take away medication and the first story that came up was a child that had died in the playground after something similar happened.”


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Student Refused Inhaler Because She Forgot Part Of Her School Uniform (Original Post) KamaAina Feb 2015 OP
I guess stupid school officials are not an exclusively American phenomenon. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2015 #1
Right? I was thinking this had to be the great state of (fill in blank), puts conformity above all. NYC_SKP Feb 2015 #2
Nah..Once you leave American shores, you realize that whathehell Feb 2015 #23
I assumed I was clicking on a story from Florida. Pacifist Patriot Feb 2015 #30
The are few forces in the world that are 100% free from all discrimination. iandhr Feb 2015 #9
This is why asthmatic kids should always carry their inhalers: tblue37 Feb 2015 #36
Apparently, although the US has laws saying kids can carry their inhalers, some schools still tblue37 Feb 2015 #37
No schools cannot deny medication. gordianot Feb 2015 #3
So England has it's share of Tealiban too I see. OregonBlue Feb 2015 #4
The one thing I hated when in school was having to go to the principal or nurse to use my inhaler. Glassunion Feb 2015 #5
From the work I've done at schools Ilsa Feb 2015 #13
I am always a bit panicky if I do not have my inhaler. rogerashton Feb 2015 #6
Me too. It's so scary to have an attack and not have an inhaler on hand. n/t FourScore Feb 2015 #14
This will probably, and should, result in the teacher being disciplined. Shrike47 Feb 2015 #7
You have to wonder what the teachers other great ideas are when a student misplaces Jefferson23 Feb 2015 #8
Disgusting LeftishBrit Feb 2015 #10
Over a necktie!? I hereby suggest that next time David Cameron loses his kids in a bar, forest444 Feb 2015 #11
This sounds like a criminal action. nm rhett o rick Feb 2015 #12
Good grief, talk about assault Warpy Feb 2015 #15
Thank Goodness it Wasn't My Child, imthevicar Feb 2015 #16
the teacher and I use the term loosly needs to watch weissmam Feb 2015 #17
Holy crap, am I ever lucky it was only my glasses my PE teacher confiscated Hekate Feb 2015 #18
I understand. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2015 #32
Like you, I hated sports. deafskeptic Feb 2015 #33
That goes so far beyond stupid TxDemChem Feb 2015 #19
Headline! sulphurdunn Feb 2015 #20
Because severe respiratory distress is a perfectly appropriate consequence Nye Bevan Feb 2015 #21
Or death! If my son had been without his inhaler, he would have died. nt tblue37 Feb 2015 #35
First of all... FiveGoodMen Feb 2015 #22
Sounds like the teacher is indeed guilty of attempted homicide DFW Feb 2015 #24
This is an outrage. It's not like an inhaler is a goddamn iPhone. smirkymonkey Feb 2015 #25
And this is why I never take collateral. knitter4democracy Feb 2015 #26
You make some very good points. Pacifist Patriot Feb 2015 #31
Weapons grade stupidity. Geez....... WillowTree Feb 2015 #27
In the wake of the incident and a poor school inspection, headteacher Trevor Langston resigned. niyad Feb 2015 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Feb 2015 #29
Not a good link. Doesn't even mention school name. valerief Feb 2015 #34
WTF? it's not a phone it's a heath care emergency that you LittleGirl Feb 2015 #38
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
2. Right? I was thinking this had to be the great state of (fill in blank), puts conformity above all.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 05:13 PM
Feb 2015

I guess that would be every state, not exclusive to great states.

sheesh.

whathehell

(29,095 posts)
23. Nah..Once you leave American shores, you realize that
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 07:30 PM
Feb 2015

"stupid" and "bigoted" are as widespread in Europe and other countries as they are here.

tblue37

(65,490 posts)
36. This is why asthmatic kids should always carry their inhalers:
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 11:16 AM
Feb 2015

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/health/ryan-gibbons-12-died-because-school-took-his-asthma-inhaler-now-mom-wants-law-changed-stop
Ryan Gibbons was only 12 years old when he died from a severe asthma attack during recess at school. He would have simply reached for the prescription inhaler that he always carried with him, but his school took it away and locked it in the principal’s office.

As Ryan gasped for air, his friends picked him up and carried him to the office where his inhaler was held. But they couldn’t get there in time. Ryan passed out before they reached his potentially life-saving medicine. He never recovered. The date was Oct. 9, 2012.

The tragedy took place at Elgin County School in Straffordville, Ontario, Canada. Now Ryan’s grieving mom, Sarah Gibbons, is leading a campaign to get schools to change their senseless policy of keeping essential inhalers away from asthmatic children — by law.

The bill that she wants lawmakers to pass is dubbed “Ryan’s Law,” in honor of her son’s memory. The proposed law would force schools to let kids who have a doctor’s okay carry inhalers in school, in a pocket or backpack.


This case happened in Canada--so it isn't just in the US that schools screw up over life-savign medication for kids.

tblue37

(65,490 posts)
37. Apparently, although the US has laws saying kids can carry their inhalers, some schools still
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 11:18 AM
Feb 2015

take them away. From the same article:

Indeed, it is difficult to understand why. What possible reason could a school have for this bizarre anti-inhaler policy? In the United States, all 50 states have already passed laws permitting children to carry their inhalers in school — but even some American schools still don’t allow it.

gordianot

(15,245 posts)
3. No schools cannot deny medication.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 05:14 PM
Feb 2015

Most States have provision for "in loco parentis". That teacher, school nurse, Principal should be looking for a job. If that does not happen the Superintendent should be fired, or if the School Board does not act they should have a law suit.

I would hope the UK it still works the same as I remember it "in loco parentis" derived from Common Law.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
5. The one thing I hated when in school was having to go to the principal or nurse to use my inhaler.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 05:26 PM
Feb 2015

Every morning, I had to go to the principal's office and hand over my inhaler.
Like clockwork, during recess or gym, I would exert myself and have an attack.
Now, that I suddenly can't breathe, have to find a teacher, wheeze my situation, get a pass, wheeze my ass across the quad, wheeze down the stairs and into building A, find the principal or the nurse, wait for them to unlock their office and get my inhaler. Then have them stare at me as I took two puffs off of it like my wheezy ass had no clue how to use it.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
13. From the work I've done at schools
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 06:15 PM
Feb 2015

as a nurse, most allow older kids (not Kinder) to carry, all day, an inhaler or epi-pen for their asthma and severe allergies. The consequences of denying it are too dire, and the potential for abuse is low.

rogerashton

(3,920 posts)
6. I am always a bit panicky if I do not have my inhaler.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 05:40 PM
Feb 2015

Oh, good, it is in my pocket. I don't really use it much any more. But even so -- that teacher is a damn cruel bastard.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
7. This will probably, and should, result in the teacher being disciplined.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 05:43 PM
Feb 2015

Medication is not a reward for doing the right thing. jeeze.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
8. You have to wonder what the teachers other great ideas are when a student misplaces
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 05:43 PM
Feb 2015

an important item, like a tie...( sarcasm on the tie )

LeftishBrit

(41,212 posts)
10. Disgusting
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 06:07 PM
Feb 2015

I note the school has had poor ratings from OFSTED. While in general, I don't trust OFSTED ratings, they could be right this time!

forest444

(5,902 posts)
11. Over a necktie!? I hereby suggest that next time David Cameron loses his kids in a bar,
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 06:07 PM
Feb 2015

Last edited Mon Feb 9, 2015, 06:42 PM - Edit history (1)

the juicy News Corp. bribes he's almost certainly been collecting in exchange for access to Scotland Yard wiretaps, be retained. That'll make him sweat.

Warpy

(111,358 posts)
15. Good grief, talk about assault
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 06:24 PM
Feb 2015

Didn't that fuckwit teacher realize that medications aren't trinkets?

There would be a huge lawsuit here.

weissmam

(905 posts)
17. the teacher and I use the term loosly needs to watch
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 06:33 PM
Feb 2015

themselves for the next ten years or so

(only saying if that was my daughter)

Hekate

(90,829 posts)
18. Holy crap, am I ever lucky it was only my glasses my PE teacher confiscated
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 06:44 PM
Feb 2015

She thought they were a liability and might break if hit by a ball. The fact that my vision at the time was in the range of 600/20 seemed to never penetrate her skull.

But at least, thank God, I could breathe. If someone took my kid's inhaler away I would go ballistic.

Some people have no business having authority over children.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
32. I understand.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 10:05 AM
Feb 2015

Some people do not understand that we who are very nearsighted CANNOT FUNCTION without our glasses. I don't know what I am in 20s, but I am a "high minus".

A diopter is a meter. If you're a minus, it's a reciprocal. So my GOOD eye is about a minus 6, so that is 39.37 inches divided by six. My good eye focuses at around 5 inches and my bad eye at about 4 inches.

Some people do not understand that. I hated PE and sat down on the softball field in 98 degree heat, and then got thrown out of the game and said, "Good!!". But I never got my glasses taken away and I'm sorry the gym teacher did that to you. The rampant obsession with sports and jocks and being macho (even among girls) to me is a great sickness in our society.

Contacts are great for seeing well if your prescription is suitable for them. It knocks off about 2 to 3 diopters to have the lens sitting on your eyeball. Now that I'm over forty and in bifocals, I have one eye focused for far and one for near, and my brain merges them, according to my eye doctor. It's called "monovision".

My parents had perfect vision and only wore reading glasses. My mom wondered why I had my nose stuck in a book when I was little, and then in the second grade she took me to the eye doctor and found out I couldn't see. She said she felt stupid. I needed them before then. I remember the stupid school nurse with her light box telling me to point at which direction the "E" pointed. I sat there and quietly said over and over again, "I can't see that" and she never heard me from ten feet away or whatever it was.

Now we have state-mandated vision, hearing and speech screening at an early age.

deafskeptic

(463 posts)
33. Like you, I hated sports.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 10:37 AM
Feb 2015

That was because it caused terrible pain in my lungs and made it hard for me to breathe. I refused to run around a football football field for that reason. Once a teacher forced me to run around the football field and i ended up with such a severe coughing fit that everyone wondered if I was ok. I have no idea why.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
20. Headline!
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 06:56 PM
Feb 2015

Today and every day, hundreds of thousands of teachers jumped through hoops, without hope of reward in this life, to see that their students were safe, fed, clothed and educated to the full extent of their power to affect such things. What the hell, I guess that's too long for a headline.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
22. First of all...
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 07:08 PM
Feb 2015

School uniforms. Something a Nazi would love.

Second: Refusing an inhaler -- bordering on attempted negligent homicide. TeachER should be behind bars.

FUCK ALL ATHORITARIAN PIECES OF THE DEVIL'S SHIT.

DFW

(54,445 posts)
24. Sounds like the teacher is indeed guilty of attempted homicide
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 07:48 PM
Feb 2015

And if he/she pleads ignorance at not knowing the consequences of taking away an asthma victim's inhaler, said teacher needs to be barred for life from ever again dealing with children or schools except as an after-hours janitor.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
25. This is an outrage. It's not like an inhaler is a goddamn iPhone.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 07:50 PM
Feb 2015

FFS, what the hell could that teacher have been thinking? What a sadistic pig! My 10 year old niece has asthma and if a teacher every did that to her I would have a hard time not walking into that school and kicking the living shit out of her/him.

knitter4democracy

(14,350 posts)
26. And this is why I never take collateral.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:50 PM
Feb 2015

I have colleagues who take collateral for pencils, pens, whatever, and for some, it's a shoe, others it's something important like a wallet or keys. It has to be something that the student will miss. I always think, though, of situations in which it could be a problem--I have the kid's shoe by my desk when the fire alarm goes off, or I have a wallet and the kid can't get home without a bus pass, etc.

Nope. Too big a liability.

I will say this, though: the student had to have offered her inhaler. I doubt the teacher has a "I'll only take your important medication as collateral" policy. It's probably more like "I'll take whatever you consider important as collateral," and the student stupidly offered her inhaler. She shouldn't have offered, and the teacher shouldn't have taken it, let alone refused to swap it out for something less critical for life.

Response to KamaAina (Original post)

LittleGirl

(8,291 posts)
38. WTF? it's not a phone it's a heath care emergency that you
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 02:35 PM
Feb 2015

need to carry those things. My gawd, what has happened to common sense? Shesus.

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