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How badly are "reality" shows faked? (Original Post) Archae Feb 2015 OP
Is anyone seriously shocked by that? ScreamingMeemie Feb 2015 #1
Next you're gonna tell me that Charles Van Doren didn't really know all those answers Newsjock Feb 2015 #2
They're all totally fake. It's commonplace to have multiple takes with supposed "real" interactions. chrisa Feb 2015 #3
I only watch one "reality" show, the oldest one, "COPS." Archae Feb 2015 #14
The guy with smeared lipstick wearing a leopard print leotard climbing out of the 18-wheeler cab... MindPilot Feb 2015 #32
What was he busted for? Archae Feb 2015 #39
No, actually IIRC, he was the victim. MindPilot Feb 2015 #41
That makes the whole thing even funnier! Archae Feb 2015 #44
I know 2 guys who were on Iron Chef America AngryAmish Feb 2015 #15
Do you think the waves are not real in "Deadliest Catch" Bandit Feb 2015 #24
Like "COPS" it's the exception to the rule. Archae Feb 2015 #40
What you see on the final product is heavily edited, and often times is from multiple takes. chrisa Feb 2015 #46
For Ghost Hunters edhopper Feb 2015 #25
I'm convinced that the producers told Teresa Giudice to throw a fit no_hypocrisy Feb 2015 #4
You needed to ask? GeorgeGist Feb 2015 #5
I saw this one day d_r Feb 2015 #6
they are shows for ratings... nothing else ProdigalJunkMail Feb 2015 #7
Cheaper too underpants Feb 2015 #37
you got it... ProdigalJunkMail Feb 2015 #43
Master Chef, Master Chef Jr and Kitchen Nightmares are all semi-scripted GreatGazoo Feb 2015 #8
Television is staged and scripted? What a damnable shocker... LanternWaste Feb 2015 #9
IKR? IKR? nt ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2015 #21
yes mercuryblues Feb 2015 #10
I heard something about American Pickers that shocked me. Baitball Blogger Feb 2015 #11
Conning Americans has been in vogue since the beginning of this century AZ Progressive Feb 2015 #12
But Trump's Celebrity Apprentice is on the up and up, right? Brother Buzz Feb 2015 #13
"Alaskan Bush People" has become my favorite fake reality show to watch. Kaleva Feb 2015 #16
I was once approached by someone wanting to make a show... lumberjack_jeff Feb 2015 #17
There was a show on the SciFi channel called Scare Tactics wyldwolf Feb 2015 #18
You mean if I go into a random storage locker I won't find some hidden treasure? Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2015 #19
Pretty much what I thought. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #20
Aww...not South Beach Tow, too. Jamaal510 Feb 2015 #22
No surprise there loyalsister Feb 2015 #23
ALL of them. N/t zappaman Feb 2015 #26
I like House Hunters International edhopper Feb 2015 #27
Trust me, if Hester was getting favored in the series, he would never have louis-t Feb 2015 #28
Yeah, reality shows are no more real than M$M "news" shows. nt valerief Feb 2015 #29
SAG writers are denied a living with the rise of "reality tv". Dawson Leery Feb 2015 #30
I love Cracked Warpy Feb 2015 #31
Clearly no sophistication in this crowd. CanSocDem Feb 2015 #33
A few have been decent.... MindPilot Feb 2015 #34
have always liked Holmes on homes , Dirty Jobs, and Deadliest catch. littlewolf Feb 2015 #42
I don't get the Iron Chef one. Glassunion Feb 2015 #35
Ugh, damn you. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #36
A friend of mine is a part time actor Ex Lurker Feb 2015 #38
I know a woman who was recruited to be on American Idol. Yes, recruited, but they wanted ... Scuba Feb 2015 #45
Everything on television is fake, even the "news" shows. hunter Feb 2015 #47

chrisa

(4,524 posts)
3. They're all totally fake. It's commonplace to have multiple takes with supposed "real" interactions.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 11:57 AM
Feb 2015

That customer talking to the Pawn Stars workers? Probably went through multiple takes saying the same thing over and over again. The Pawn Stars pawn shop isn't real either - it's a gift shop for fans of the show.

"Ghost Hunters" is not real either - anyone who actually hunts ghosts will tell you that 99.9% of the time you find nothing. The flashlight thing (where a ghost turns it off) is stupid - it can easily be faked. Their past evidence is clearly special effects, and their acting is corny. "Ghost Adventures" is pretty funny, though - it doesn't even try to be realistic.

The rest of these do the same things. It's all about good TV. Survivor is totally fake too. If these shows were real, they would be much less interesting - a lot of stuff is faked for the sake of entertainment.

Archae

(46,354 posts)
14. I only watch one "reality" show, the oldest one, "COPS."
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 01:55 PM
Feb 2015

I doubt they'll ever have to stage any of it, face it, criminals will always be with us.
Especially dumb ones who try to run away.

I have noticed most of the criminals busted on COPS are relatively minor offenders, drugs and assaults most common.

I loved one guy, caught with powder cocaine, kept yelling it wasn't his, even though he had cocaine on his upper lip under his nose.
Kept yelling "It's not mine!" until it cut to commercial.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
32. The guy with smeared lipstick wearing a leopard print leotard climbing out of the 18-wheeler cab...
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 04:59 PM
Feb 2015

still my favorite COPS moment of all time!

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
41. No, actually IIRC, he was the victim.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 05:43 PM
Feb 2015

I think the situation was that a male prostitute assaulted him and took his wallet.

Archae

(46,354 posts)
44. That makes the whole thing even funnier!
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 07:46 PM
Feb 2015


I know, I know, I shouldn't laugh at this guy getting assaulted and robbed.
But it is funny, like the gas attack at the Furry convention.
 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
15. I know 2 guys who were on Iron Chef America
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 02:02 PM
Feb 2015

The secret ingredient is know ahead of time...they are told it will be 1 of 3 things. Other than that it is on the up and up.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
24. Do you think the waves are not real in "Deadliest Catch"
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 04:06 PM
Feb 2015

Or how about the crabs in the pots. Are they faked? I fished the Gulf of Alaska for over two decades and can say beyond doubt that what you see is actually what happened.

Archae

(46,354 posts)
40. Like "COPS" it's the exception to the rule.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 05:40 PM
Feb 2015

No one even mentioned Deadliest Catch, but yes that does look real.

And rather scary at times.

chrisa

(4,524 posts)
46. What you see on the final product is heavily edited, and often times is from multiple takes.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 11:35 AM
Feb 2015

Even if the footage is real (which, for most 'job' shows, the people receive some help), it didn't necessarily happen as it's shown. It's common to even take dialog or events from completely different days and piece them with other cuts to make an interesting story.

For example, the Ghost Hunters actually film for at least a couple days on location, but the show is cut to make it look like it's all in one night. For their Christmas special, they actually shot it in July and had the place put up Christmas decorations to make it look like it was Christmas.

Another good example is "Man vs. Wild." Bear Grylls had a lot of help, never stayed in the woods over night, and was never far from civilization.

I've never actually seen "Deadliest Catch," so I don't have an opinion on it.

no_hypocrisy

(46,207 posts)
4. I'm convinced that the producers told Teresa Giudice to throw a fit
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 12:11 PM
Feb 2015

(not necessarily turn over a restaurant table) if she wanted more face-time on RHONJ. She's a real dumb ass, but she's also hungry for attention. It got people watching the show and talking about it.

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
7. they are shows for ratings... nothing else
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 12:45 PM
Feb 2015

to believe they are somehow real is like believing pro-wrestling is anything more than a carefully choreographed dance...

sP

underpants

(182,908 posts)
37. Cheaper too
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 05:26 PM
Feb 2015

Non-union writers
Less pay because they aren't "talent"
Even the contests only have one $500k or $1M payout as opposed to paying actors per episode (Kelsey Grammer was pulling down over $2M per episode at the end of 'Frasier')

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
8. Master Chef, Master Chef Jr and Kitchen Nightmares are all semi-scripted
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 12:57 PM
Feb 2015

For MC they use food stylists and coaches, give them the mystery ingredients 4 weeks ahead of time so they can practice.

The kids come from casting calls, their parents can pay for coaches, they practice in advance, a ringer wins it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/07/masterchef-junior_n_4234794.html

If the pros on Chopped get beat by the clock, why would anyone believe that every 10YO on MCJ can bang out a picture perfect alligator curry in 30 minutes?

Ramsay himself is somewhat of a fraud -- never played pro football, uses frozen food (boil in a bag !?) in his restaurants, serves tired 1950s British food.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1171004/Theyre-freshly-prepared-Ramsay-defends-use-boil-bag-ready-meals-restaurants.html

ETA: The king of fake food shows was "Mystery Diner" which was one of the few fakes to be called out and embarrass its producers.

http://previously.tv/mystery-diners/the-delightfully-fake-restaurant-crimes-of-mystery-diners/

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
9. Television is staged and scripted? What a damnable shocker...
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 12:58 PM
Feb 2015

Television is staged and scripted? What a damnable shocker...

mercuryblues

(14,543 posts)
10. yes
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 01:14 PM
Feb 2015

House Hunters falls into this category. Some of the houses they show are not for sale. They are houses owned by friends of the purchaser. Sometimes the house they "chose" at the end, they all ready have under contract.

Baitball Blogger

(46,758 posts)
11. I heard something about American Pickers that shocked me.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 01:17 PM
Feb 2015

The rumor is that they are millionaires and the deals are made before they fly in. And the truck is driven to the destination where they only film the last mile or so.

Say it ain't so!

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
12. Conning Americans has been in vogue since the beginning of this century
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 01:27 PM
Feb 2015

It's really gone mainstream, with society acting like it's normal. America really is a sociopath's paradise.

Kaleva

(36,354 posts)
16. "Alaskan Bush People" has become my favorite fake reality show to watch.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 02:06 PM
Feb 2015

They spend their nights in the comfort of a lodge in a nearby town while hired locals build the outhouse, trapper's cabin and stand bear guard duty. We don't see that on tv though.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
17. I was once approached by someone wanting to make a show...
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 02:07 PM
Feb 2015

... about northwest sawmills. Guy knew less than nothing about the business, and I can't imagine a more boring tv show than following my buddy and me as we gossip, eat lunch and make boards on our tiny bandsaw mill.

Another time, I was approached by someone wanting to do one about boatbuilding - similar situation. I referred both guys to businesses with more entertaining owners.

wyldwolf

(43,870 posts)
18. There was a show on the SciFi channel called Scare Tactics
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 02:09 PM
Feb 2015

From Wiki:

Scare Tactics is a hidden camera prank show that puts victims into terrifying situations, usually involving movie-style special effects and makeup that recreates horror movie clichés. The victims, generally four per episode, are set up by friends/family in tandem with producers.

The victims on the show are lured to a location, either invited there by people they know (who were in on the act), or reporting for what they thought was a new job. Soon they would experience some kind of terrifying scene—like a strange monster, an alien encounter, a terrible accident, or a violent crime being committed—all of which was staged while the victim was secretly being recorded.


You could see the lapel mics on the 'victims.' Totally and obviously fake.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,199 posts)
19. You mean if I go into a random storage locker I won't find some hidden treasure?
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 02:10 PM
Feb 2015

I'm telling you, I'm totally shocked here.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
22. Aww...not South Beach Tow, too.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 02:42 PM
Feb 2015

After thinking about it for a while, I can't say I'm too shocked. Something seemed fishy when Tremont Towing was supposedly going out of business and Bernice was headed to Detroit with her mom, then all of a sudden, a miracle happens. Same thing happened with when Robert Sr. owed one of his rivals some money, then at the last minute, he gets the dough, and the other guy is mad. Also, Cosgrove fell down a bunch of stairs and was in the hospital until......he and Bernice revealed to everyone that it was a prank!
I'm not going to lie, though--much of the ass beatings and injuries on that show do look real, as well as Robert Sr. having to retire due to his neck injury.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
23. No surprise there
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 02:44 PM
Feb 2015

I have never watched a single episode of a reality show. I like fiction for my relaxation and viewing pleasure. I love my Roku. Except for PBS, I never turn on broadcast TV.
It was probably the writers' strike that cause the cable co. to lose my business. It was getting too expensive, anyway. Good riddance!

edhopper

(33,625 posts)
27. I like House Hunters International
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 04:16 PM
Feb 2015

not because I think the people are looking at only three homes and then choosing. But because I like to see the foreign locations.

louis-t

(23,297 posts)
28. Trust me, if Hester was getting favored in the series, he would never have
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 04:28 PM
Feb 2015

filed a lawsuit. I'm sure he knew what was up from the beginning. I think he thought someone else was being favored over him. He's back on the show and a bigger asshole than ever. That could be fake, too. His 'character' seems to have mental problems at times. I don't care for the newer bidders. The girl from Texas is really dorky. Ivy is hard to watch. Barry is gone. Mark Balelo committed suicide.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
30. SAG writers are denied a living with the rise of "reality tv".
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 04:39 PM
Feb 2015

That is why these "reality" shows are terrible.

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
33. Clearly no sophistication in this crowd.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 05:05 PM
Feb 2015


Since most watchable television is already "reality" (no paid writers...) one has to pick and choose carefully. Even a Corvair guy like you can't dispute the pleasure of watching the many car builders (in Las Vegas) do their magic with a minimum of 'drama'.

Richard from Gas Monkey Garage in Dallas is a true American Car culture hero who probably would have faded into obscurity if not for "reality television". Of course he's now hugely wealthy but one doesn't want to fault him for that.



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MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
34. A few have been decent....
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 05:09 PM
Feb 2015

Holmes on Homes, COPS, Dirty Jobs, O'Hare Towing.

Most of them are just obviously contrived BS. I like the build shows like Overhaulin' but please, I couldn't give less of a shit about about all the internal strife and shop politics. Just show me how you restored that '66 Malibu.

littlewolf

(3,813 posts)
42. have always liked Holmes on homes , Dirty Jobs, and Deadliest catch.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 06:03 PM
Feb 2015

never really thought of them as reality shows.
Just guys doing a job.
and what is involved in it.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
35. I don't get the Iron Chef one.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 05:17 PM
Feb 2015

For as long as I've watched the show, I've understood it to have worked that way. Hell, most of what is mentioned is on the wiki page. I was not "shocked" by any of it.

Ex Lurker

(3,816 posts)
38. A friend of mine is a part time actor
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 05:27 PM
Feb 2015

He was cast last week on a fairly well known reality series as an "angry neighbor."

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
45. I know a woman who was recruited to be on American Idol. Yes, recruited, but they wanted ...
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 10:27 AM
Feb 2015

... her to sign over her past and future to them and she said no. She's a kick-ass singer.


I used to watch The Big Break until they had Guilliani's asshole kid on the show. That was too much.




On edit: Do you think it was Daryl who was paid to have the breast enlargement?

hunter

(38,328 posts)
47. Everything on television is fake, even the "news" shows.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 12:22 PM
Feb 2015

Brian Williams is just an actor in a bit of trouble with his bosses for going off script.

My television is a movie player. That's all it does. If I watch a movie like Iron Sky I can be pretty sure it's not a true story about Nazis on the moon, if I watch Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter, I can be pretty sure it's not a true story about Abraham Lincoln's vampire hunting prowess.

Being constantly skeptical of television "news," as we all must be, just makes me tired and sad. Why bother?




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